James Bond hit by bullet fragments!

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According to http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/...Italian+set+of+'jinxed'+Bond+movie/article.do

They mentioned a few accidents while fiming Bond movies...
Bond girl Halle Berry was hurt in 2002 during the making of Die Another Day as Bond - played at the time by Pierce Brosnan - was filmed firing at a helicopter.

In 1997, during the filming of Tomorrow Never Dies, Brosnan was hit by fragments of a bullet and scarred.

In 1967 during You Only Live Twice with Sean Connery a stuntman lost both his legs in the rotor blades of a helicopter.

How in the world did this happen? Using LIVE ammo on set? Is Hollywood really that stupid?
 
*sigh*

The Crow was an independent movie, and the guy who was the weapons master was evidently not as experienced as he should have been, but even then, the circumstances that led to Brandon Lee's death were highly unusual.

If I were to hazard a guess, Brosnan was probably hit by fragments during training for the film, not during filming itself.
 
Sounds like studio publicity hype. Was he running from sniper fire in Bosnia at the time?

Jim
 
Well, if you notice many films CGI in the muzzle flash these days (with the Actors using inoperable props), so weapons related accidents are going to be less common.

The Brandon Lee thing was an amazing freak accident, I still can't believe it happened the way I heard it (wax/plastic bullet used for front close up of revolver. Tip breaks off and is lodged in barrel. Later shooting with blanks propells tip into Lee, either penetrating his vest or the actor wasn't properly protected).
 
Blanks Hurt

I've made a few movies and did several years of theater and we used blank firing guns all the time. What a lot of people who've never used blanks regularly or in close proximity to others is that in addition to the flash and bang from the powder, the ends of the (usually 8mm) blank are crimped and occassionally those break off under pressure and will be shot out the barrel of the gun (again unless your using solid "blank" barrels).

I've been hit dozens of times by other actors firing blanks who didn't understand the "doint point it directly AT them" rule. It stings but unless your close they rarely draw blood.

Sadly most amatuers, (often from watching bad movies) think your supposed to aim for the head and end up shooting another actor in the face, that always ends badly. I have a friend who cannot go out in direct sunlight without sunglasses from powder residue and small metal fragments embedded in his eyes. Thankfully he's not blind.

The only safety net a production has is the quality of their quartermaster, differs from propmaster in that they only handle the gun stuff. And sadly as Justin already pointed out, that was an independent and they hired a cheap, in this case inexperienced quartermaster. Cutting costs hurts, in this case it killed a promising young actor.

Jason is correct that with so much of independent movies using cheaper CGI with inoperable rubber guns there will be less and less opening for hurt. I have a lot of respect for Robert Rodriguez for bypassing the paperwork of getting a real quartermaster for blanks in mexico and instead using rubber guns and CGI.
 
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What a lot of people who've never used blanks regularly or in close proximity to others is that in addition to the flash and bang from the powder, the ends of the (usually 8mm) blank are crimped and occassionally those break off under pressure and will be shot out the barrel of the gun

At the American Legion post I used to belong to I used to be on the squad that fired the salutes at funerals for veterans. We used M1 Garands with 30-06 blanks. We never pointed them near anyone. They were very loud obviously and we were always careful with them. In fact we were trained to treat them as always loaded like any firearm. The only issue was after each shot we'd have to manually cycle the action as the blank would not work the semi-auto action. Bottom line as stated above is blanks are DANGEROUS.
 
I always thought that Brandon Lee was killed by a blank, and not live ammo??


Ooops, sorry, someone already mentioned that. :eek:
 
Sounds like he *was* killed by a blank.

That's why people always say "if the gun recoils more or less than usual, or sounds different, cease fire and check for barrel blockages."
 
I've worked on more then a few westerns and saftey has always been good from my experience. Most of us police ourselves and watch for others.
The armorer/quartermaster has got to be good and conscientious. Real ammo is never even on set.
I cannot even imagine a set where live ammo was present. Actors are always playing with the guns to familiarize themselves with them.
 
There was also that one actor who picked up a blank gun, pointed it at his head and fired. A piece of his skull penetrated his brain and he died.
 
I recently watched Mario von Peebles movie "Badaaaaaaaaass" which chronicles the making of his father's movie, one of the original "Black" films of the 70's.

During filiming of the original movie, they could not use union actors so they basically had guys off the street, and one was carrying. They took his (loaded) gun and some assistant put it in a drawer with the prop guns. The actor asked for his gun back several days later, after the filming of several scenes with guns and everyone's face when slack when the assitant told them where she was keeping his piece. vo Peebles Sr. metions they were extremely lucky and that incident could have been a whole lot worse (no kidding!!!)
 
Brandon Lee was not killed with a blank, at least not the way you would normally think of a blank, in that there was a projectile involved.

Lee was killed by a REAL bullet that had broken off of a dummy round and remained in the chamber when the cartridge case was removed. When they loaded the blank round later the bullet was still in the revolver chamber and they essentially created a live round by combining a projectile (bullet by itself) and propllent (the blank load).

Lee was not wearing a vest. Actors do not usually wear vests when filmingn with firearms.

Now, Jon Erik Hexum killed himself with a blank .44 Magnum round back in the 80's. He put the gun to his head, said something like, "Let's see if I can hurt myself with this," and pulled the trigger. The blank round drove skull fragments into his brain and killed him.
 
Brandon Lee was not killed with a blank, at least not the way you would normally think of a blank, in that there was a projectile involved.

Lee was killed by a REAL bullet that had broken off of a dummy round and remained in the chamber when the cartridge case was removed. When they loaded the blank round later the bullet was still in the revolver chamber and they essentially created a live round by combining a projectile (bullet by itself) and propllent (the blank load).

Lee was not wearing a vest. Actors do not usually wear vests when filmingn with firearms.

technically he was killed with a blank... searching google is a good thing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Lee

Because the movie's second unit team were running behind schedule, it was decided that dummy cartridges (cartridges that outwardly appear to be functional, but contain no gunpowder) would be made from real cartridges. A cartridge with only a primer and a bullet was fired in the pistol prior to the scene. It caused a squib load, in which the primer provided enough force to push the bullet out of the cartridge and into the barrel of the revolver, where it became stuck.

The malfunction went unnoticed by the crew, and the same gun was used again later to shoot the death scene, having been re-loaded with blanks. Nevertheless, the squib load was still lodged in the barrel, and was propelled by the blank cartridge's explosion out of the barrel and into Lee's body. Although the bullet was traveling much more slowly than a normally fired bullet would be, the bullet's large size and the extremely short firing distance made it powerful enough to fatally wound Lee.

When the blank was fired, the bullet shot out and hit Lee in the abdomen and lodged in his spine. He fell down instantly and the director shouted "Cut!", but Lee did not respond. The cast and crew filming rushed to him and noticed he was wounded. He was immediately rushed to the hospital, Lee’s heart had stopped once on the set and once in the ambulance on the way. Following a six hour operation to remove the bullet and despite being given 60 pints of blood, it was too late. The damage the bullet caused was too great. He was pronounced dead at 1:03pm.
 
technically he was killed with a blank... searching google is a good thing...

I stand by my statement. Lee was killed by a *bullet* propelled by a blank, not just by the gases expelled by a blank.

The bullet was originally part of a dummy round and which broke off and was left in the chamber. The blank round that was loaded acted as the propellent that sent the bullet into his body.

Yes, a blank round was involved, but it's more complicated then just saying "Brandon Lee was killed by a blank." That's why I said, he "..was not killed by a blank, at least not the way you normally would think of as a blank..."
 
XDKingslayer said:
Didn't they just drive a really expensive vehicle off a cliff into a lake the other day filming the new Bond movie?
Sort of.

They weren't filming. Someone was delivering the car to the set, driving on a very twisty road around the lake in rain. I guess the person driving the car overestimated either his own ability or the car's capabilties, over-cooked it on a hairpin turn, and went through a guardrail into the lake. It was the new Aston-Martin Bond-mobile, and I understand it was rather thoroughly trashed.
 
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