James Yeager on Shotguns

[12Bravo20]

Everyone is different and their needs are different too. There is no right or wrong answer here. I go with the setup that I was trained with and am use to using.

 

[GEM]

Here's a pretty good sights write up and follow the link for shotgun myths also. https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/sighting-systems-defensive-shotgun/

Another: https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/shotguns-for-home-protection
https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/thoughts-on-the-defensive-shotgun

Took a shotgun class with Moses and another with Givens. Shot my Winchester 1300 in both and in matches. I recommend the courses and the competition to run the gun under some time, movement and stress.

Yeager is controversial. BTW, after shotgun, carbine classes and matches - If I want to pick up a long gun at home , it's the carbine for all the constantly stated reasons. I can run both. The latter is my choice.

 

[drobs]

I'm not a fan of single point slings. Good way to bang your knees / shins transitioning to a pistol.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

Just figured I’d share. James is a polarizing guy but I think his blunt attitude, sound advice, and fierce defense of the 2nd Amendment make him a cool dude. I like him.

I feel the same way about The Yankee Marshall.
A lot of folks hate him but I he's one of my favorite YT gun guys.
I don't always agree with him, but he's genuine and when he says something, that's what he really believes.
Also, I like that he has a good sense of humor and pokes fun of himself. If we can't laugh at ourselves, something is wrong.

Also, I agree with Yeager on the simplicity of the shotgun topic.

 

[entropy]

I’ve been watching some James Yeager videos on fighting shotguns and in one he speaks about accesories:



I really think that’s a useful setup. James focuses on simplicity and practicality when it come to shotguns. I tend to agree, and think too many people try and make them into a clumsy rifle. He recommends a single point sling as during his classes he has seen a number of students have their 2-point slings interior with working the pump.

Yeager is a bead man, who recommends XS Big Dot tritium front bead mods. A mounted light (mandatory for a defensive shotgun IMHO), Velcro shot card, +2 factory magazine extension, and Magpul SGA stock round out the rig.

I am for sure going to try out a single point sling as a dedicated retention device for home defense. I understand they aren’t ideal for running around with the gun but I think for just securing the shotgun to a user to prevent disarmament during a home invasion scenario it could be very practical, and will not get in the way of operating the pump.

Just figured I’d share. James is a polarizing guy but I think his blunt attitude, sound advice, and fierce defense of the 2nd Amendment make him a cool dude. I like him.

Considering your avatar, I'm not surprised. The Col. was very outspoken, and didn't care what others thought of him. Yeager's personality is very offputting, but he knows his stuff, just ask him; he'll be the first to tell ya. Makes Larry Vickers seem self-deprecating in comparison. And yes, I like Larry's videos a lot. Could be we are from the same era and of like mind, had my asthma not come back while I was at Ft. Ord, I planned on the same kind of career arc.
I don't like Yeager as much as his knowledge, which is worth the nails on the chalkboard of watching his videos. I much prefer John Lovell's WPS videos to Yeager.

As for his recommendations, I agree with them, though my Ithaca 37 is bare bones, by choice. If i didn't already have a SparkII on it, I'd go with that XS sight, that's slick.

 

[jmorris]

Yep...illumination tools are for suckers. That's why I mounted LED clock radios to the front of my car, and use the ambient light from the stars to illuminate what I need to see while driving.

And while trying to illuminate a potential threat in a self-defense situation? I eliminate the distraction of light completely by shutting my eyes.

I wouldn’t go as far as saying they are for suckers but if you thought there was a threat outside your house, would you,

A. Turn on every inside and outside light at your house.
B. Turn on every inside light and off all outside light.
C. Turn off every inside light and on all outside light.

Why?

 

[herrwalther]

Cannot bear the messenger. At all. Find it hard to believe he has anything useful to say about anything.

Same. I wouldn't take Yeager's advice on a slingshot, let alone any firearm.

 

[George P]

I wouldn’t go as far as saying they are for suckers but if you thought there was a threat outside your house, would you,

A. Turn on every inside and outside light at your house.
B. Turn on every inside light and off all outside light.
C. Turn off every inside light and on all outside light.

Why?

If there was a threat outside my home, I would call 911 and make sure the doors and windows are locked and would prepare to defend the inside. I'm not playing a soldier in a video game

 

[Dale Alan]

Yet another thread started to create controversy , ad nauseam comes to mind.

 

[twofewscrews]

I wouldn’t go as far as saying they are for suckers but if you thought there was a threat outside your house, would you,

A. Turn on every inside and outside light at your house.
B. Turn on every inside light and off all outside light.
C. Turn off every inside light and on all outside light.

Why?

Option C seems to make the most sense. Turn off all inside lights so you are not visible to those outside. Turn on the outside lights so those outside are visible to you.
Options A and B makes you visible. If one intended to sneak out rather then engage in a gun fight turning on the inside lights would work against you. If you were to engage in a gun fight, you want them to be visible not you. Turning on the outside lights A, lets them know they have been detected, and B, hopefully deters them from entering your home without you having to fire a shot.

 

[geologist]

 

[Mr. Mosin]

I've had my fill of supposed experts who've never really done much of anything. Wasn't it McCracken who said all you needed was a light and a sidesaddle ?

 

[Boattale]

I wouldn’t go as far as saying they are for suckers but if you thought there was a threat outside your house, would you,

A. Turn on every inside and outside light at your house.
B. Turn on every inside light and off all outside light.
C. Turn off every inside light and on all outside light.

Why?

D. Leave everything as is. Night lights inside and dusk to dawn and multi solar lights outside. And not open the door or go outside. Call 911 and watch quietly from a dark window, 870 in hand with round in chamber and safety on.
Why? Cause I'm no dummy.

Anybody outdoors would hear a lot of dogs going off. The smart kind would just leave.

 

[JCooperfan1911]

I've had my fill of supposed experts who've never really done much of anything. Wasn't it McCracken who said all you needed was a light and a sidesaddle ?

McCracken?

 

[entropy]

Start here:
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/defensive-ammunition-101.608952/
Goes for 11 pages. Lots of good advice in here, some bad.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

McCracken?

A passed on member here, and long time residential general shotgun and combat shotgun master and expert.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

James Yeager, who thinks it's a good idea to have a photographer down range? I'll pass on his advice.

https://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2...e-training-try-not-to-shoot-the-photographer/

 

[bubbatime]

I would think the light would make a good target. Your thoughts please?

Every, and I mean every, modern home defense weapon should absolutely have a mounted weapon light on it. Assuming it’s a modern firearm and has a way to mount a flashlight. If you have a revolver, then a handheld light should be kept with the revolver.

Weapon lights , like weapons, require training in their use. You don’t just turn the light on and meander around the house looking for a bad guy and giving your position away.

I have real world experience on this subject. When your life is on the line, it’s extremely dark, and you can’t see, it’s terrifying. Just put a damn light on your gun. The amazing thing is, you don’t HAVE to use it, if you don’t need it. But it’s MUCH better to have a light and not need it, then need it, and not have it.

 

[flightsimmer]

James Yeager, who thinks it's a good idea to have a photographer down range? I'll pass on his advice.

https://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2...e-training-try-not-to-shoot-the-photographer/

I thought they used a mirror for those photos?

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

I thought they used a mirror for those photos?

That is actual video from his "school"

He followed up with another video defending it and claiming no firearm safety rules were violated by having photographers down range. Apparently that vid has been taken down.

He is the poster boy of blowhard douchebags. Also probably exactly what every rabid anti 2A activist thinks we all are.