Jeremiah Johnson Quotes
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Cosmoline
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LOL
IIRC, after that Jeremiah offers help but Del claims he's sitting on a horse and will be fine.
mcneill
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Don't recall if this is exctly correct, but here goes
Bear Claw: "Were it worth the trouble?"
JJ: "Eh? What trouble?"
Also, the opening monologue which I have used part of as a sig line for quite some time.
(Editorial comment: Robert Redford is a twit, but I love that movie.)
Jim
Bear Claw: "Were it worth the trouble?"
JJ: "Eh? What trouble?"
Also, the opening monologue which I have used part of as a sig line for quite some time.
(Editorial comment: Robert Redford is a twit, but I love that movie.)
Jim
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How about,
"Suck on THIS,
pemmican breath!"
"Suck on THIS,
pemmican breath!"
Johnson teaching his new wife to speak English:
Johnson, "great hunter"
Wife, "yes"
Johnson, "fine figure of a man"
Wife, "yes"
One of the interesting things mentioned about Johnson at Trail Town was that he would WALK from Red Lodge to the DeMaris hot springs (now on the fringes of Cody right below Trail Town) every few weeks to soak in the springs. It helped relieve his arthritis. Red Lodge to Cody is about 40 to 45 miles.
A boy scout troop in So Cal was partly responsible for getting Johnson reburied at Trail Town. There is a lot of information about it at Trail Town, newspaper clippings, etc.
Johnsons Hawken gun is at the Cody Firearms Museum. It's a .56 cal. Most Hawken guns were in calibers 50 to 56 from what I have learned. Where the film makers get a 30 cal Hawken is beyond me. It would be a squirrel gun.
It's true that occasionally guns were rebored, but it wasn't a yearly or regular thing. Many guns went their entire, (and long) life in the original caliber. It was generally wear, and perhaps loss of accuracy from lots of use, that determined when it was time to rebore. I recall reading from traders and trappers reports on supplies laid in for a years time in the mountains they would generally have enough powder, lead, and caps for about 100 shots.
Johnson, "great hunter"
Wife, "yes"
Johnson, "fine figure of a man"
Wife, "yes"
One of the interesting things mentioned about Johnson at Trail Town was that he would WALK from Red Lodge to the DeMaris hot springs (now on the fringes of Cody right below Trail Town) every few weeks to soak in the springs. It helped relieve his arthritis. Red Lodge to Cody is about 40 to 45 miles.
A boy scout troop in So Cal was partly responsible for getting Johnson reburied at Trail Town. There is a lot of information about it at Trail Town, newspaper clippings, etc.
Johnsons Hawken gun is at the Cody Firearms Museum. It's a .56 cal. Most Hawken guns were in calibers 50 to 56 from what I have learned. Where the film makers get a 30 cal Hawken is beyond me. It would be a squirrel gun.
It's true that occasionally guns were rebored, but it wasn't a yearly or regular thing. Many guns went their entire, (and long) life in the original caliber. It was generally wear, and perhaps loss of accuracy from lots of use, that determined when it was time to rebore. I recall reading from traders and trappers reports on supplies laid in for a years time in the mountains they would generally have enough powder, lead, and caps for about 100 shots.
TallPine
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Okay, thanks - I didn't know about the exhumation and re-burial. The book (Crow Killer?) that I read must have been pretty old - borrowed it from a little small town library. Johnston seems to have traveled almost as much after he was dead as he did when he was alive 
The movie used to be one of my favorites, but it seems a little bit light weight after having read the historical tale.
Another good (but sad) book is Tough Trip Through Paradise by Andrew Garcia.
The movie used to be one of my favorites, but it seems a little bit light weight after having read the historical tale.
Another good (but sad) book is Tough Trip Through Paradise by Andrew Garcia.
Tallpine, I second your recomendation of Tough Trip Through Paradise. Excellent read.
An interesting point brought up by Garcia, when he was trading guns to the Blackfeet, they prefered the 50-70 Springfield trapdoor single shots to the Winchester (or Henry?) repeaters in 44 rimfire. They thought the small caliber guns to be mere toys compared to a powerful 50-70's. They liked a gun that could kill a buffalo or bear with one shot.
A sentiment that some of us still hold.
An interesting point brought up by Garcia, when he was trading guns to the Blackfeet, they prefered the 50-70 Springfield trapdoor single shots to the Winchester (or Henry?) repeaters in 44 rimfire. They thought the small caliber guns to be mere toys compared to a powerful 50-70's. They liked a gun that could kill a buffalo or bear with one shot.
A sentiment that some of us still hold.
Texian Pistolero
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A few years ago, there was a archaelogical study of a famous firefight between Apaches and buffalo soldiers in New Mexico, in the White Sands region.
By noting the various locations of expended cartridges, the development of the firefight was traced. A detailed study was made of brass from various rifles and pistols. The Apache leader employed his heavy rifles for long range engagement, and .44 Henrys for close range ambush. There were numerous strikes on many Henry rimfire cases, indicating that the rifles or the ammo was unreliable.
In any case, the Indians usually had trouble getting quality ammo.
The heavy rifle cases were reloadable, i don't think .44 rimfire was.
By noting the various locations of expended cartridges, the development of the firefight was traced. A detailed study was made of brass from various rifles and pistols. The Apache leader employed his heavy rifles for long range engagement, and .44 Henrys for close range ambush. There were numerous strikes on many Henry rimfire cases, indicating that the rifles or the ammo was unreliable.
In any case, the Indians usually had trouble getting quality ammo.
The heavy rifle cases were reloadable, i don't think .44 rimfire was.
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My grandfather worked for a man named Benedict Weingart in Silver Star, Mt. from 1878 to 1882. Weingart's ranch was 19 mi. S of Whitehall,Mt. onthe west side of the Jefferson River. Grandad told me, when I was little, that he had gone to town with the boss, and while there the boss had talked with, and introduced him to the Liver Eater. I always thought grandad was shining me a bit, but later in life learned that there was really a fellow who had done that. His buddy was Del Gue. Weingart also operated a freight line between Salt Lake City and the Mt. mines. Virginia City and other places, about that same time.
Pilgrim
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Another interesting person of those times, Lewis Wetzel.
I've read Crow Killer and of course have the VHS of J.J. One great part of the movie is when Del and JJ are sitting eating supper when a Crow attacks, throwing a spear at the crotch of Del. JJ takes out the Crows feet, frees the Crows ghost and goes back to eating. Del explains the Crow custom of fighting an enemy and then says to JJ ."..maybe it's best you go down to a town, get out of these mnts." To which JJ replies, "I've been to a town, Del"
Book has the same incident in it, better I think. Del knows of JJ's reputation as eating the liver and after dispensing the Crow yells, "Don't do it Liver Eat'n, I'ma gonna gag!"
Some interesting stuff off google: Jeremiah Johnston
Book has the same incident in it, better I think. Del knows of JJ's reputation as eating the liver and after dispensing the Crow yells, "Don't do it Liver Eat'n, I'ma gonna gag!"
Some interesting stuff off google: Jeremiah Johnston
Silver Bullet
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"the Rocky Mountains are the marrow of the world"
Considering the relative small amount of dialog in this movie, it sure has more than its share of memorable lines.
Considering the relative small amount of dialog in this movie, it sure has more than its share of memorable lines.
""..maybe it's best you go down to a town, get out of these mnts." To which JJ replies, "I've been to a town."
That was one of my favorite lines also. I think of it often, as I generally get to town about once a week, sometimes less often.
I like this so much I'm planning to retire to build a cabin and live semi-bush in AK. A town every couple weeks or so sounds even better. Once a month may work too. Hmmm,......maybe all summer in the bush out on the rivers,.......a visit to a bush village for supplies every few weeks,..... Then a few trapping cabins spread out over a couple hundred miles of trail. Sounds like winter may be full up too.
That was one of my favorite lines also. I think of it often, as I generally get to town about once a week, sometimes less often.
I like this so much I'm planning to retire to build a cabin and live semi-bush in AK. A town every couple weeks or so sounds even better. Once a month may work too. Hmmm,......maybe all summer in the bush out on the rivers,.......a visit to a bush village for supplies every few weeks,..... Then a few trapping cabins spread out over a couple hundred miles of trail. Sounds like winter may be full up too.
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