Jewish militant killed in Los Angeles prison.

[The Grand Inquisitor]

Good to see a thread come up to show us who the resident anti-semites are.

 

[agricola]

"Resident anti-semites"? Whats that supposed to mean?

As for me, if the bloke was planning to blow people up who had done nothing to him other than pray to a different form of the same God, then he deserved to be in prison irrespective of how big the bomb was, and for exactly the same amount of time as the rest of the scum who like to but these things in areas where they come into contact with people.

 

[CAnnoneer]

the JDL was out for REVENGE for 9/11, not to do anything to US foreign policy.

So they are not smart terrorist "politicians", they are just dumbass murderers who want to kill Americans because they happen to be Muslim. If they want real revenge, they should go bomb the thousand Saudi Arabian imams that preach jihad and the sheikhs that finance them. But, it is far easier to make a pipe bomb and kill somebody in their own community. Cowards.

Plans to make a Unique pipe bomb are not on the same level as flying jet liners into the World Trade Center. Do authorities need to clamp down on Americans wanting revenge on Muslims? Yes. We can't have that here. But to classify them as "terrorists" is absurd.

So the "terrorist" classification is dependent on the number of victims?

I must disagree. If you (try to) kill people at random, you are a terrorist.

 

[Biker]

Good to see a thread come up to show us who the resident anti-semites are.

Care to point some out?
Biker

 

[Alex45ACP]

Good to see a thread come up to show us who the resident anti-semites are.

 

[shootinstudent]

Typical. Nobody is talking about ISRAEL but you. Anytime Islamic extremists are brought up, the apologists start to complain about how Israel did this or that.

I brought up the comparison for two reasons: 1. To provide an example of religion in government somewhere other than in Muslim countries and 2. To mention that even Israel, a country not known for fooling around in the war on terror, had arrested the founder of the JDL for precisely this kind of activity, so you can hardly call the FBI anti-semitic for doing just the same thing.

The incidents of terrorism I posted to go with it were to illustrate how biased and how silly it is to justify or excuse attacks on civillians just because you think that particular religious group is dangerous. Using the logic you are using to excuse the JDL plot on Mosques, a Muslim could take any of those articles and say "Look! Jewish terrorists are a major threat, and someday we might have to surrender to Jewish invaders (like we already have twice)!" Would that justify terror attacks, or at least make them understandable, in your eyes?

It doesn't in mine. Attacks on civilians because of their religion are WRONG, no matter what the context of the attack. I'm with CAnnoneer on this one 100 percent:

So the "terrorist" classification is dependent on the number of victims?

I must disagree. If you (try to) kill people at random, you are a terrorist.

 

[Cosmoline]

I don't deny that it was wrong. I question a federal prison term far, far larger than a child molester or rapist gets.

I also question how much of it was a genuine plot and how much was the creation of an FBI operative. The informant was the same fellow who pushed the plan and asked the key questions about how to build a bomb and what to do with it. I really don't see how this sort of thing makes anyone safer. And I question the motives of going so intently after JDL leaders while largely ignoring the threat from radical Islam.

Mark my words, the US is going to get sucker punched again. And I won't be surprised if, JUST AS IN THE UK with the recent underground bombings, the enemy comes from right here at home. I don't trust those mosques. Many are funded with SA money and staffed by VERY radical clerics. They keep a low profile and watch what they say. But they are deeply hostile to our continued existence. Can we just go around bombing them ourselves? NO, of course not. But while the FBI will spend lots of time and money to quash vigilante activity, they won't do diddly to stop the real terrorism. Lord knows they didn't in the run-up to 9/11.

 

[shootinstudent]

I don't deny that it was wrong. I question a federal prison term far, far larger than a child molester or rapist gets.

Inciting religious and ethnic violence via terrorism is right down there with those crimes if you ask me.

I really don't see how this sort of thing makes anyone safer. And I question the motives of going so intently after JDL leaders while largely ignoring the threat from radical Islam.

Arresting people who are plotting to bomb religious and government sites stops those same people from doing it. As for ignoring radical Islam...??? How many busts of Masjid based terror networks have we seen since 9-11? How many of the people arrested under anti-terror legislation have not been Muslim? The FBI is not ignoring radical Islam; even some people associated with CAIR (and a couple of professor types) have been jailed.

They keep a low profile and watch what they say. But they are deeply hostile to our continued existence. Can we just go around bombing them ourselves? NO, of course not. But while the FBI will spend lots of time and money to quash vigilante activity, they won't do diddly to stop the real terrorism. Lord knows they didn't in the run-up to 9/11.

If they keep a low profile and watch what they say, how did you figure out that they are deeply hostile to our existence?

To be honest I find this frightening. An article gets posted about terrorism against Muslims and Arabs in America, and we get discussion attempting to show that it might be justified to attack these people based on religious identification.

I'm wondering: When Muslims are no longer the boogeyman for America and Europe, who do you think will be the next group these same accusations will be levelled against?

 

[Preacherman]

Folks, this has turned into a slanging match over what is/is not terrorism, who is/is not justified in pursuing it, etc. Not High Road material.