Bob R
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Well, it doesn't look like Norfolk has changed much in the last 35 years. Holy Moly, has it been that long since I called pier 12 my home!
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Joining the Navy, what happens to my guns?
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Well, it doesn't look like Norfolk has changed much in the last 35 years. Holy Moly, has it been that long since I called pier 12 my home!
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Don't join the navy
Thats good advice, become a Coastie and you can have guns all day long.
Thats good advice, become a Coastie and you can have guns all day long.
tank mechanic
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If you develop a sense of entitlement, then you will be miserable.
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I was in the Navy... Join the Coast Guard... I f I had to do it again, that's what I'd do... If you are a BM or GM, depending on assignemnt, you may even be able to do L.E. as a FED... Drug Interdiction, etc...
Navy MA's get treated like crap, top to bottom.... we didn't get the respect Army, Air Force, or USMC MP's got by far... In many cases we were glorified security guards sometimes managed by people who had been cooks, air mechs, or paper pushers then made E6 E7 and became super cops conversions... so you might have someone with less "cop" experience than you as your supervisor... Not Fun... If you do do the Navy, go GM or BM.... get on a small boat (destroyer or such)...
The best MA assignement, if you have to do it, are mobile security dets, or at/fp overseas (Bahrain)...
I made E5 in less than 2 years... still wasn't that great of duty... I haven't met too many coasties who didn't like their jobs... 70% of the MA's I know hated it most of the time...
Navy MA's get treated like crap, top to bottom.... we didn't get the respect Army, Air Force, or USMC MP's got by far... In many cases we were glorified security guards sometimes managed by people who had been cooks, air mechs, or paper pushers then made E6 E7 and became super cops conversions... so you might have someone with less "cop" experience than you as your supervisor... Not Fun... If you do do the Navy, go GM or BM.... get on a small boat (destroyer or such)...
The best MA assignement, if you have to do it, are mobile security dets, or at/fp overseas (Bahrain)...
I made E5 in less than 2 years... still wasn't that great of duty... I haven't met too many coasties who didn't like their jobs... 70% of the MA's I know hated it most of the time...
steveracer
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WOW!
I didn't want to come across like that. I absolutely LOVE being in the Navy, and wouldn't change a thing over my carreer. (wouldn't have gotten married, but whatever)
I want you to seriously consider the following: Do exactly as you are told, as well as you can, and as fast as you can, and be polite. You will be in charge of your own carreer in no time. You will reap incredible rewards in the US Navy. I've been in 44 countries, on four overseas deployments, in real-world operations in some of the most interesting places in the world. I've met people who will be close dear friends for the rest of my days, and I've had the privelege of serving among some of the finest men and women America can produce. I'm 33.
This is a good gig, being a sailor.
I spent 14 months in Great Lakes, IL. All training. Terribly boring place to be, and I couldn't have my guns on my train rides into Chicago. I left them home in NY with my folks, and shot with my brother when I was there on leave.
As soon as I came to VA Beach, I got an apartment (E-4 at the time) and have lived here since. My safe is here , and my guns are in it. I have contingency plans for deployments, or IAs (To Iraq, Afghanistan, HOA, etc) and a really good life.
I'm an E-6 now, and have a good life. I shoot every week at a local range, and every month at a Navy range. I've shot 5" guns, Tomahawks, Harpoons, 50 cal M2s, M134 Miniguns, 25MM chain guns, M19 grenade launchers, M-14s, MK18s, M-60s, M-11s, M-4s, 1911s, even old .38 revolvers. I have had excellent training on the .gov's dime, and now I'm in a position to influence policy for future training. This is a really good job. You'll love it.
If you do decide to join the Navy, we're happy to have you. Shooting enthusiasts are hard to find, and more is always better.
Remember one of the rules of a gunfight: Bring all your friends with guns.
Welcome.
Steve.
I didn't want to come across like that. I absolutely LOVE being in the Navy, and wouldn't change a thing over my carreer. (wouldn't have gotten married, but whatever)
I want you to seriously consider the following: Do exactly as you are told, as well as you can, and as fast as you can, and be polite. You will be in charge of your own carreer in no time. You will reap incredible rewards in the US Navy. I've been in 44 countries, on four overseas deployments, in real-world operations in some of the most interesting places in the world. I've met people who will be close dear friends for the rest of my days, and I've had the privelege of serving among some of the finest men and women America can produce. I'm 33.
This is a good gig, being a sailor.
I spent 14 months in Great Lakes, IL. All training. Terribly boring place to be, and I couldn't have my guns on my train rides into Chicago. I left them home in NY with my folks, and shot with my brother when I was there on leave.
As soon as I came to VA Beach, I got an apartment (E-4 at the time) and have lived here since. My safe is here , and my guns are in it. I have contingency plans for deployments, or IAs (To Iraq, Afghanistan, HOA, etc) and a really good life.
I'm an E-6 now, and have a good life. I shoot every week at a local range, and every month at a Navy range. I've shot 5" guns, Tomahawks, Harpoons, 50 cal M2s, M134 Miniguns, 25MM chain guns, M19 grenade launchers, M-14s, MK18s, M-60s, M-11s, M-4s, 1911s, even old .38 revolvers. I have had excellent training on the .gov's dime, and now I'm in a position to influence policy for future training. This is a really good job. You'll love it.
If you do decide to join the Navy, we're happy to have you. Shooting enthusiasts are hard to find, and more is always better.
Remember one of the rules of a gunfight: Bring all your friends with guns.
Welcome.
Steve.
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My son-in-law was commissioned at Pensacola NAS last Friday and has been assigned to the USS Wasp in Norfolk, VA. He'll be living on the ship until the family can move down there after grade school is out. I guess I'll be babysitting his guns until further notice. Woot. Mike Z
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Amen to that!
I have yet to talk to any recruiters or candidates that emphasize this VERY IMPORTANT aspect of military service. When I talk to youg people contemplating going into the service I try to give them fair warning. The Navy is not going to wink at their screw ups. There are things legal for the ordinary citizen that they will get hammered for under the UCMJ. And most importantly, they're called ORDERS and not RECOMMENDATIONS for a reason.
LBTRS,
You'll likely find that active duty service will be a signififcant life shaping experience for you. Whether it's for the better or for the worse is up to you. You can earn yourself a letter of commendation and a medal or a Big Chicken Dinner (a.k.a. bad conduct discharge). Don't go for the money or the education......go to serve, go for a totally unique experience and go to make a difference. Our country needs men who will step up to the plate and swing the bat with heart!
Regarding what job you go for...........the Navy is an extremely technically minded organization. Technical skill are highly valued and rewarded. This is evidenced by SRBs (selective re-enlistment bonuses) and promotion statistics.
Many of the "old tech." rates are going the way of the do-do bird (i.e. Boiler Tech, Quartermaster, Signalman). It would be a major bummer to invest years into your rate, only to have it discontinued or consolidated with another rate (i.e Quartermaster was merged with Navigation Electronics Technician). You will find it very difficult to advance in rank if this happens to you, as advancement is striclty within your rate and driven by supply and demand.
Regarding the Navy and small arms.....
If you really want to handle guns as part of your job, the Navy might not be the most prefered service. If you're a very strong swimmer and think you can hack BUDS (Basic Underwater Demolition School) and want to strike SEAL, you'll probably get all the gun handling you want. Otherwise, you might be disapointed. As mentioned by a previous poster, being an Armorer in the Navy won't be the same as being an Armorer in the Marines.
All that said.....I wouldn't change a thing when it comes to my decision to serve in the Navy. It is by FAR the most professional war fighting sea service in the world. There's no other "job" that could have given me as much responsibility and experience. I was tested in many ways and I know who I am as a result.
I had the privelage of meeting Lucky Fluckey (a top WWII Submarine Commander, awarded the Medal of Honor). He signed my copy of his book "Thunder Below" and wrote that he viewed the Cold War as being even more important to humanity than even WWII. I can say with pride that I was on the front line of the Cold War.
If he were still alive today, just imagine what he would think about the global struggle to resist militant Jihad?
You can make a difference.
Good luck to ya.
Amen to that!
I have yet to talk to any recruiters or candidates that emphasize this VERY IMPORTANT aspect of military service. When I talk to youg people contemplating going into the service I try to give them fair warning. The Navy is not going to wink at their screw ups. There are things legal for the ordinary citizen that they will get hammered for under the UCMJ. And most importantly, they're called ORDERS and not RECOMMENDATIONS for a reason.
LBTRS,
You'll likely find that active duty service will be a signififcant life shaping experience for you. Whether it's for the better or for the worse is up to you. You can earn yourself a letter of commendation and a medal or a Big Chicken Dinner (a.k.a. bad conduct discharge). Don't go for the money or the education......go to serve, go for a totally unique experience and go to make a difference. Our country needs men who will step up to the plate and swing the bat with heart!
Regarding what job you go for...........the Navy is an extremely technically minded organization. Technical skill are highly valued and rewarded. This is evidenced by SRBs (selective re-enlistment bonuses) and promotion statistics.
Many of the "old tech." rates are going the way of the do-do bird (i.e. Boiler Tech, Quartermaster, Signalman). It would be a major bummer to invest years into your rate, only to have it discontinued or consolidated with another rate (i.e Quartermaster was merged with Navigation Electronics Technician). You will find it very difficult to advance in rank if this happens to you, as advancement is striclty within your rate and driven by supply and demand.
Regarding the Navy and small arms.....
If you really want to handle guns as part of your job, the Navy might not be the most prefered service. If you're a very strong swimmer and think you can hack BUDS (Basic Underwater Demolition School) and want to strike SEAL, you'll probably get all the gun handling you want. Otherwise, you might be disapointed. As mentioned by a previous poster, being an Armorer in the Navy won't be the same as being an Armorer in the Marines.
All that said.....I wouldn't change a thing when it comes to my decision to serve in the Navy. It is by FAR the most professional war fighting sea service in the world. There's no other "job" that could have given me as much responsibility and experience. I was tested in many ways and I know who I am as a result.
I had the privelage of meeting Lucky Fluckey (a top WWII Submarine Commander, awarded the Medal of Honor). He signed my copy of his book "Thunder Below" and wrote that he viewed the Cold War as being even more important to humanity than even WWII. I can say with pride that I was on the front line of the Cold War.
If he were still alive today, just imagine what he would think about the global struggle to resist militant Jihad?
You can make a difference.
Good luck to ya.
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i wouldnt trust my guns with the armorer on base. here in Jacksonville, you have to have a police escort take you to the armorer to drop your weapons off. (if you live in base housing or in the barricks) and a police escort to take you off base if you want to go shooting.
now granted not all base's are like that. Pax River, Maryland allows deer hunting ON base with muzzleloader, shotgun, bow or xbow. Just depeneds on where you are stationed.
And I would NEVER live on base again. (unless i was on deployment or stationed over seas) The Navy gives you a housing allowance/food allowance every month get a couple roommates you TRUST and can handle living (maturity is the key here) with and you will defently come out ahead every month. but you wont be able to move out in town for at least the first year (depends on how full the barricks are usually as to if they will let you live out in town or not as an e2-e3 i moved out as an e3 though ive know guys move out as E1s etc)
now granted not all base's are like that. Pax River, Maryland allows deer hunting ON base with muzzleloader, shotgun, bow or xbow. Just depeneds on where you are stationed.
And I would NEVER live on base again. (unless i was on deployment or stationed over seas) The Navy gives you a housing allowance/food allowance every month get a couple roommates you TRUST and can handle living (maturity is the key here) with and you will defently come out ahead every month. but you wont be able to move out in town for at least the first year (depends on how full the barricks are usually as to if they will let you live out in town or not as an e2-e3 i moved out as an e3 though ive know guys move out as E1s etc)
Smite
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Agreed with the poster above.
Barracks life is rediculous. You have to figure that things are good while the general populace that lives in them are behaving themselves.
But.... Let one bad thing happen, like an alleged rape, or a big fight.
The SHTF quite literally. A couple of months ago the exact same thing happened here, and good god allmighty, there were health and comfort inspections every week or so(which basically means that a couple of pissed off NCOs storm into your tiny room and completely tear it to pieces "looking" for illegal things, oftentimes destroying your property in the process.)
You basically lost what little personal rights you had already.
Some items that were confiscated were
- George foreman grills,
- Small toolkits for cars
- Any, and I mean any kind of knife they found.
I would strongly recommend separating yourself from the barracks living as soon as you can.
Living in an appartment off base will for the most part greatly reduce the stress of being in the military. You'll see soon enough.
Like I said earlier though, I wouldn't recommend storing your firearms in the armory.
I work at the armory, so things would be a bit different in my case, but for anyone else, DON'T DO IT!
Barracks life is rediculous. You have to figure that things are good while the general populace that lives in them are behaving themselves.
But.... Let one bad thing happen, like an alleged rape, or a big fight.
The SHTF quite literally. A couple of months ago the exact same thing happened here, and good god allmighty, there were health and comfort inspections every week or so(which basically means that a couple of pissed off NCOs storm into your tiny room and completely tear it to pieces "looking" for illegal things, oftentimes destroying your property in the process.)
You basically lost what little personal rights you had already.
Some items that were confiscated were
- George foreman grills,
- Small toolkits for cars
- Any, and I mean any kind of knife they found.
I would strongly recommend separating yourself from the barracks living as soon as you can.
Living in an appartment off base will for the most part greatly reduce the stress of being in the military. You'll see soon enough.
Like I said earlier though, I wouldn't recommend storing your firearms in the armory.
I work at the armory, so things would be a bit different in my case, but for anyone else, DON'T DO IT!
thumper723
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Here has been my experience so far.
I'm a LT (O-3) that has been in for 7 years.
When I was in the first part of flight school, nobody in the TRACOM really cared what you had in your apartment, but the navy would not move guns.
When I went to NAS Whiting Field, for Helicopter Advanced training, I was forced to live in the BOQ, as I was single at the time, and they were not full. The navy had just privatized maitnenance, so there were almost no enlisted personnell on base, and the BEQ became the BOQ, and they had a LOT of open rooms.
Base armory did not want to deal with private weapons. BOQ/Security would not allow weapons in the BOQ, even in a RSC or other locked container. So I ended up having to store my guns in a mini-storage place off base, along with my dirtbike, bbq and furniture.
This was all when I wasn an Ensign (O-1)
After I got winged, I reported to NS Mayport. As a "Geo-Bachelor" (had recently been married, but she was finsihing school) I lived in the BOQ and was not allowed weapon on base, period. So I did the mini-storage thing again. Then when the (ex) wife came, we lived in base housing for a while. I was allowed to have them in the house, but all were reistered, and had to be transported "Cali Style" on and off base. Report them to sentry only if asked at gate, or if you are stopped on base.
Then moved off base, bought a house. Problem solved, for the time being anyways.
Fast forward 3 years, now a LT, get divorced, move back into BOQ, and having them all at a friends house. Easier than dealing with base policies, and required for now, for reasons address in another thread.
Congratulations on joining the Navy, remember, if it is NOT in writing, you are NOT gauranteed it. Most recruiters are stand-up men and women, but there are a few that will say anything to get you in.
Also, my reccomendation, agreeing with others is to leave your guns with friends or relatives, until you get to your ultimate duty station. Then you will be able to figure out the best course of action.
Crazy,
The requirements are the same for officers, but the punishment is easier when they get caught.
I was a Yeoman on a sub an one of my favorite pastimes was to read the reports that came in on our guys that got in trouble. This one junior officer we had pulled the fire alarm in a parking garage. When shore patrol patted him down, they found a fully loaded magazine in his pocket. They asked him what it was for and he said "It's for the gun in my barracks room". All he got was a warning from the CO about improper storage of a firearm. It seems that standard punishment for enlisted folks is forfeiture of at least 1/2 months pay for 2 months, 30 days extra duty, restriction and reduction in rank (usually suspended).
Joey,
The only advice I can give you is to ask your Chief and LPO for advice and listen to it. That is everything from living out in town, to buying a car.
Also take every contract you want to sign to your legal department BEFORE YOU SIGN. If the business won't let you take it, go someplace else (this from a guy that got a 30% finance rate on a used motorcycle) .
Oh, and save money, don't get married too young and have fun. There are plenty of ex military on here that will give you straight answers to any question you may ask.
The requirements are the same for officers, but the punishment is easier when they get caught.
I was a Yeoman on a sub an one of my favorite pastimes was to read the reports that came in on our guys that got in trouble. This one junior officer we had pulled the fire alarm in a parking garage. When shore patrol patted him down, they found a fully loaded magazine in his pocket. They asked him what it was for and he said "It's for the gun in my barracks room". All he got was a warning from the CO about improper storage of a firearm. It seems that standard punishment for enlisted folks is forfeiture of at least 1/2 months pay for 2 months, 30 days extra duty, restriction and reduction in rank (usually suspended).
Joey,
The only advice I can give you is to ask your Chief and LPO for advice and listen to it. That is everything from living out in town, to buying a car.
Also take every contract you want to sign to your legal department BEFORE YOU SIGN. If the business won't let you take it, go someplace else (this from a guy that got a 30% finance rate on a used motorcycle) .
Oh, and save money, don't get married too young and have fun. There are plenty of ex military on here that will give you straight answers to any question you may ask.
cloudcroft
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Joey_the_Wolf,
You'd sure better GET INSURANCE for any items you put into a storage facility...such places are not immune to burglaries and the facility is NOT liable for any loss.
Takes pics of the guns and get their SNs...store this info elsewhere so it's available if you ever need to make a claim.
-- John D.
You'd sure better GET INSURANCE for any items you put into a storage facility...such places are not immune to burglaries and the facility is NOT liable for any loss.
Takes pics of the guns and get their SNs...store this info elsewhere so it's available if you ever need to make a claim.
-- John D.
SSN VET,
You're talking to the wrong guy, I've been on active duty for 21 years and it has definately been a life shaping experience for me.
I'm not the original poster, I'm the Navy Recruiter that sells the Navy as service to our country and prepares them for the sacrafices they will be forced to make while they serve. Of course they are going to have fun and be rewarded with opportunity for their sacrafice they make.
Thanks for your service to our country!
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Here is your chance so pay attention
Don't join the Navy!, Run for your life now! Want to defend the nation, carry guns and be a hero , with an actual life? Join the Coast Guard, listen to the Chief with 27 years! I spent 4 years with the navy, never ever again, run for your life NOW, good God!
An E-4 can command a Coast Guard Rapid Response Boat that is armed to the teeth, enforce the law, and save lives, all in one day! And be treated like a professional and a human being. It only gets better from there! You will never get a chance to do that anywhere else and certainly not in the Navy!
Plus if you play your cards right you can go months without ever even having to see an officer!
Just trying to help you out!
Trust the Chief!
Feel free to e-mail me.
Don't join the Navy!, Run for your life now! Want to defend the nation, carry guns and be a hero , with an actual life? Join the Coast Guard, listen to the Chief with 27 years! I spent 4 years with the navy, never ever again, run for your life NOW, good God!
An E-4 can command a Coast Guard Rapid Response Boat that is armed to the teeth, enforce the law, and save lives, all in one day! And be treated like a professional and a human being. It only gets better from there! You will never get a chance to do that anywhere else and certainly not in the Navy!
Plus if you play your cards right you can go months without ever even having to see an officer!
Just trying to help you out!
Trust the Chief!
Feel free to e-mail me.
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+1 to not living on base if you can avoid it for all of the reasons that have been explained here already. Fewer hassles with firearms and anything else that's your business and not the government's. Just be careful depending on where you get stationed. I got PCS'd from Charleston to Pearl Harbor and had to leave my firearms with my dad for a couple of years, even though I lived out in town. Then and I think now, Hawaii had pretty much a total ban on non-police firearms, certainly on pistols. That's kind of the trade-off you have to make to get to draw a paycheck and live in paradise.
Oh, and 3-section isn't all that bad, in submarines at least in the early 90s we nucs were lucky to get 3 section duty inport, when things got rough we'd go to port and starboard duty sections. THAT will put a crimp in your leisure activities.
Oh, and 3-section isn't all that bad, in submarines at least in the early 90s we nucs were lucky to get 3 section duty inport, when things got rough we'd go to port and starboard duty sections. THAT will put a crimp in your leisure activities.
<------Well, I am 12.5 yrs navy, and I used to have a house for my guns. Actually, it started out as a house for my wife, but the guns turned out to be less trouble. 
Now I am a geo-bachelor(new wife, new house, far away) and my local guns live in a rental locker(s) at an MWR run shooting range that is on base. I have the only keys, the place is climate controlled, alarmed, and staffed by people with guns. I left them all for a recent deployment no problemo. I keep a lot of my guns at home too, never all my eggs in one basket. I pretty much live at the range during the week. So, if you get stationed in Norfolk come on over to the Marine side of the base and check out the range.
P.S. Worst case ever: I had a one month school in Florida and I rented a storage unit for one AR-15, one 1911, and an electric frying pan the BEQ frowned on. Gateway outside of Jax is a nice gun club.
Now I am a geo-bachelor(new wife, new house, far away) and my local guns live in a rental locker(s) at an MWR run shooting range that is on base. I have the only keys, the place is climate controlled, alarmed, and staffed by people with guns. I left them all for a recent deployment no problemo. I keep a lot of my guns at home too, never all my eggs in one basket. I pretty much live at the range during the week. So, if you get stationed in Norfolk come on over to the Marine side of the base and check out the range.P.S. Worst case ever: I had a one month school in Florida and I rented a storage unit for one AR-15, one 1911, and an electric frying pan the BEQ frowned on. Gateway outside of Jax is a nice gun club.
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Leave your guns at home. After boot camp and A school I never spent more than 3 or 4 months ashore at a time. Two other guys and I would go to recreation and check out bows and arrows and hunt rabbits on base. (Don't get caught doing this, ya gotta be stealthy!)
Don't get married during your first hitch.
Do pay your bills.
Do further your education.
Do NOT drink to excess! In the 'old' Navy it was almost expected (ever heard the old saying "drunk as a sailor"?) Todays military (all branches) FROWNS on it. Things far less than what my buddies and I did, with no consequences (ie. getting thrown out of the EM Club because we were so loud that the band complained, and then walking across a high security runway at 0200, while falling down drunk, in search of a hamburger) will now get you thrown out of the service.
You have to be at least 6' tall to join the Coast Guard (if the boat sinks, you have to be able to wade ashore! )
All kidding aside, if I were going in today, theleveloftime is right on, the Coast Guard is the first place I'd look.
Bob- USN '66-'72 (Vietnam '68,'69,'70)
LEO '76- and still counting.
Don't get married during your first hitch.
Do pay your bills.
Do further your education.
Do NOT drink to excess! In the 'old' Navy it was almost expected (ever heard the old saying "drunk as a sailor"?) Todays military (all branches) FROWNS
on it. Things far less than what my buddies and I did, with no consequences (ie. getting thrown out of the EM Club because we were so loud that the band complained, and then walking across a high security runway at 0200, while falling down drunk, in search of a hamburger) will now get you thrown out of the service.You have to be at least 6' tall to join the Coast Guard (if the boat sinks, you have to be able to wade ashore!
)All kidding aside, if I were going in today, theleveloftime is right on, the Coast Guard is the first place I'd look.
Bob- USN '66-'72 (Vietnam '68,'69,'70)
LEO '76- and still counting.
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Gunner's mates almost never get to shoot anything
Gun Captains are always Boastswian's Mates!
Coast Guard Gunners mates on the other hand are always shooting things!
Listen to the Chief laddie, don't join the Navy.
And we never take a knife away from a sailor, you should see some of the ones I issue to people! A sailors without knife is useless!
The Tactical Law Enforcement Team (TACLET) Insignia is intended to recognize those Coast Guard personnel currently assigned to a Reqional Taclet and those who have previously served in the TACLET community. The Insignia further distinguishes those members of the TACLET community who have achieved a heightened level of qualification, knowledge and experience that includes both practical and operational components, with a broader understanding and appreciation for the law enforcement mission, command and control, interagency and joint DOD operations, and leadership issues.
Gun Captains are always Boastswian's Mates!
Coast Guard Gunners mates on the other hand are always shooting things!
Listen to the Chief laddie, don't join the Navy.
And we never take a knife away from a sailor, you should see some of the ones I issue to people! A sailors without knife is useless!
The Tactical Law Enforcement Team (TACLET) Insignia is intended to recognize those Coast Guard personnel currently assigned to a Reqional Taclet and those who have previously served in the TACLET community. The Insignia further distinguishes those members of the TACLET community who have achieved a heightened level of qualification, knowledge and experience that includes both practical and operational components, with a broader understanding and appreciation for the law enforcement mission, command and control, interagency and joint DOD operations, and leadership issues.
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theleveloftime is someone you dont want in your recuriting office when you are trying to get someone to sign up LOL
oh and VA27 it just depends on how bad you screwed up drinking as to how much trouble you will get in. we got in trouble for drinking in the parkinglot after work one friday night and nothing happened to us they just said you cant do that any more. get more than one DUI that will get you kicked out in a hurry. or if you are an alcoholic and it affects your work that will get you the boot fast also.
oh and VA27 it just depends on how bad you screwed up drinking as to how much trouble you will get in. we got in trouble for drinking in the parkinglot after work one friday night and nothing happened to us they just said you cant do that any more. get more than one DUI that will get you kicked out in a hurry. or if you are an alcoholic and it affects your work that will get you the boot fast also.
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Sorry LBTRS.......got mixed up.....
I don't envy your recruiting job. Have a good friend who's an E-6 working at a recruiting office. EXTREME PRESSURE to meet quota. He was working 70 and 80 hour weeks (not what shore rotation is "meant" to be). Then the command actually took him to mast for not making quota.
So you wonder why some recruiters act in such a way as to give the whole group a bad name???
I don't envy your recruiting job. Have a good friend who's an E-6 working at a recruiting office. EXTREME PRESSURE to meet quota. He was working 70 and 80 hour weeks (not what shore rotation is "meant" to be). Then the command actually took him to mast for not making quota.
So you wonder why some recruiters act in such a way as to give the whole group a bad name???
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