longeyes
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The Bill of Rights definitely has a case of the glub-glubs. So does the nation's sovereignty.
longeyes said:The Bill of Rights definitely has a case of the glub-glubs. So does the nation's sovereignty.
Are you asserting that the U.S. Government, knowing he was an illegal, issued him a Social Security Number so he can work and pay SS and Medicare taxes as well as file a Federal income tax return?
If he doesn't have an SSN, or used a false one or obtained a real one under false pretenses, it would seem that he didn't really become a "party to the contract" after all.
And if the Feds issued an SSN to someone known to be an illegal alien . . . we have some serious problems here.
OK, why dont you show me what part of the constitution gives the government the authority to strip civil rights from non-citizens. Show me where it says that the 4th amendment applies only to citizens, and dont say that its an oversight because the authors had no problem making that disctinction regarding the right to vote. They knew the difference between a citizen and a non-citizen and chose NOT to make that distinction a prerequisite for 4th amendment protection.
Or is the constitution an out-dated anachronism? Should it be a "living document" that should be molded to fit our new circumstance?
What the constitution does do is give power to the parties of the contract.
Now, unless the various gov't agencies that spend that money have avoided spending this guys money, or if someone is willing to give him a refund, he's done faithfully paid a good amount of his taxes.
That brings to mind a line from an old movie. Perhaps some of you have seen it?On the contrary Mr. Yeager, you most certainly DO have obligations under this contract. You have the obligation to not be treasonous. You have the obligation to pay taxes so levied by the congress.
paraphrasing here...
"I swore no allegiance to Longshanks."
"But still, he IS your King."
I have often struggled with this very question and the best answer I can come up with is fair sportsmanship.Sindawe said:On the topic at hand, I've been thinking about this all day and chatting with my buds online about the topic. IMHO the judge is correct. The rights enumerated in the Constitution are innate to all individuals, as well as those NOT listed in that document. Mr. Illegal Alien has those same rights, and is entitled to the same protection of and from the Law as any of us native born or naturalized.
ArmedBear said:If allowing anyone in this country to enjoy the protections of the Bill of Rights is necessary to assure that I do, then I say, let them . . . "We were looking for illegal aliens, and we found this bag of weed" would be far too easy where I live, because I'm close to the border.
Of course, if we stopped trying to use force to stop adults from voluntarily doing certain unhealthy things (e.g. take recreational drugs or hire prostitutes), then a lot of these cases wouldn't exist.
On the contrary Mr. Yeager, you most certainly DO have obligations under this contract. You have the obligation to not be treasonous. You have the obligation to pay taxes so levied by the congress.
I like you people more every day! Don't run away, stay here and help change things!However, if we stopped bankrolling every little pet project that liberals think up and make government do it's very limited job using naturally market-limited tarrifs and excise taxes instead of absurdly high income taxes