juiced up .30 luger?

[Gordon]

Maybe I am the only one here who regulary shoots and likes the 7.65 Luger . I have a Browning High power slide set up for it AND a 1920 Commercial Luger . I have used a 93 grain Truncated flat point cast bullets with gas checks sized at .309 in both guns with 4.5 grains of Winchester 231 (a max but safe for my guns load!!!) which get 1300 fps in the Luger and close to 1400 fps in the Hi power. Very fun load, very economical and would take game to 50 pounds or so out to 50 yards no problemo. The .30 Luger feeds much better IMHO than a 9mm Luger does with various flat pointed bullets owing to the bottle necked casing.
I had a relative, who died many years back, who in the late 1930s took a sea kayak trip down the west coast to South America (my Uncle and aunt) and they carried a Mauser broomhandle in a wooden stock. They shot all kinds of eating game with the stocked Mauser 7.62 and even shot a jaguar sucessfully with it! They used commercial soft point ammo .

 

[justin22885]

cool thing about the broom handle is the long 5.5" barrel, some models were select fire.. and a stock.. uuh, thats essentially a 120 old PDW at that point.. the C96 was doing 120 years ago what the P90 even today cant seem to match.. personally the fact i prefer old german stuff would have me wanting the 7.63x25 mauser over the 7.62x25, and i think a P08 in .30 luger would be really cool

also, modern powders in a standard pressure .30 luger actually puts kinetic energy at about 400ft/lbs with a 4 inch barrel.. bout the same as a standard pressure 9x19mm which isnt bad at all, and i do all my .30 luger or 7.62x25 calculations with the 90 grain hornady XTP

 

[justin22885]

any suggestions on a good 30 luger pistol?.. if anyone still makes them or even components to reload them or am i looking at having to do this all from scratch basically?

eh.. forget it, i was looking around at handguns currently on the market and a handgun ive always liked is the beretta cougar, looking at the beretta cougar i notice their barrels are incredibly simple to manufacturer since there are no complex shapes to have to machine besides the groove around that small band on the barrel itself.. i notice .30 luger uses about a 1 in 10 inch twist and a .308 caliber at that so.. finding a 5 inch chunk of .308 barrel that someone maybe cut off a longer blank would suffice for what i need it for... for this im going to take a beretta cougar (probably made by stoeger) and convert that to .30 luger

i will take some measurements of the locking pieces as well to determine if they are of sufficient size to handle more force, if so, then i will gradually begin to increase the pressure of .30 luger rounds loaded with 9x23 brass and study any potential wear as i increment my way up

 

[Gordon]

If you look and wait you can find a Ruger P89 in 7.65 Luger that should sell less than $400 and be juiced up a bit no doubt.

 

[barnbwt]

Well, it appears you have your choice of;
-DWM Luger (2000$)
-Walther P38 (2000$)
-SIG P210 (2000$)
-Ruger P89DC (450$)

There's also a long Luger barrel for <100$ on Gunbroker


Very tough to cut this shape without tooling (likely live tooling on a turning center or mill w/ rotary axis as opposed to a simple lathe cut). If you can pull if off, kudos; the PX4/Cougar are really solid shooters

TCB

 

[Richard Head]

Justin check out this article on the Tokarev pistol. They experimented with a few powders such as H110, Power Pistol and Lil Gun. You might find it interesting and no hard feeling friend.
http://www.realguns.com/articles/707.htm

 

[Hmm710]

Hey All,
Interesting thread! I built an 8" AR blow back pistol using trimmed 9x23 SC brass and run through 30 Luger dies and hitting 1750 fps w/ 90gr JHP and have one barrel throated running 125 - 150gr bullets, what a blast. Have new reamers coming to bump the shoulder fwd and out to use all the 9x23 case to juice it up some more.
Best part? It runs in Uzi mags
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