Jury Acquits Marine In Crowd Shooting

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June 30, 2006

Jury Acquits Marine In Crowd Shooting

Finds he acted in self-defense

By Associated Press

SALEM -- A jury deliberated just two hours yesterday before finding an Iraq war veteran acted in self-defense when he fired a shotgun into a raucous crowd of clubgoers outside his Lawrence home, injuring two people.

The Salem Superior Court jury acquitted Marine Sergeant Daniel Cotnoir, a 34-year-old reservist who was named 2005's ``Marine of the Year," of two counts of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon in the August shooting . After the verdict, two jurors hugged him outside the courthouse.

``Everybody likes to think their home is safe," Cotnoir, a reservist, said after the verdict. ``You don't have to have been a war veteran or see anything gruesome to be scared when things go flying through your bedroom window."

Cotnoir, who served eight months in Iraq in 2004, helped create a mortician's unit for the Marine Corps, for which he was credited when he won the ``Marine of the Year." award. He and his wife accepted the award one month before the shooting.

Cotnoir's house overlooks a parking lot across from two nightclubs. After the clubs let out at 2 a.m. Aug. 13 , revelers played music and were singing and dancing.

He testified that he felt ``under attack" after a bottle was thrown through his window minutes after he called police about the noise. He fired a rifle shot into what he said was a clear area, but the shell struck a curb and shattered into fragments, striking Kelvin Castillo, 21, and Lissette Cumba, 16, both of Lowell.

Cotnoir said prosecutors had offered a deal of 12 years of probation if he agreed to plead guilty to three felony charges. But he said he never considered accepting the offer.

``Somebody else is going to be honored with [the Marine of the Year award] next month, and I wouldn't want him to get something that I've tarnished, and by that same token, my family's good name," Cotnoir said.

If convicted, he could have faced up to 20 years in prison .

Cotnoir's wife, Mary Kate, said the family plans to move out of Lawrence.

Prosecutor John Dawley had urged jurors not to ``give him extra points because he was in Iraq."

``He is basically a good guy," Dawley said, ``but this is not a case about making someone a bad guy. . . . Good people occasionally have monumental lapses of judgment."

Dawley, Castillo, and Cumba were not immediately available for comment after the verdict. On Wednesday, Castillo said he'd already forgiven Cotnoir, but wanted a conviction.

``I respect him for everything he's done for the country," Castillo said. ``I just don't respect what he did" on Aug. 13.

Juror Becky Flessas, who embraced Cotnoir outside the courthouse, said his service in Iraq was not a factor during deliberations.

``We were going by the facts that we had," she said.
 
WOW...

Justice in the proples republic of MASS. It's good to see that people still have some common sense. It's also wonderful to see that this guy didn't take the easy way out and did the right thing and fought it out in court. I know that many people would have taken the probation if they were looking at 20 years.
 
Well, which thing was it, a shotgun or rifle??? :confused:

.......when he fired a shotgun into a raucous crowd of clubgoers outside his Lawrence home, injuring two people.


.......fired a rifle shot into what he said was a clear area
 
``He is basically a good guy," Dawley said, ``but this is not a case about making someone a bad guy. . . . Good people occasionally have monumental lapses of judgment."

That's just a stupid argument to make to a jury. Of course you're asking them to declare him as a bad guy. That's sort of the whole point of declaring someone guilty, and thus a criminal.

Maybe the jury saw through the "I hate to do this, he's a great guy, but he made a mistake" BS. Juries aren't as dumb as people think, and if you pander to them, you just might get bit.
 
Well, which thing was it, a shotgun or rifle???

.......when he fired a shotgun into a raucous crowd of clubgoers outside his Lawrence home, injuring two people.

.......fired a rifle shot into what he said was a clear area
That was my question, too (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=208104). Really makes you wonder about the number of brain cells most reporters have. Actually, in most instances I think they're handed out one-per-reporter with no chance for second helpings.
 
I think I figured it out. There were actually 3 shots. A shotgun (...fired a shotgun...), a rifle (He fired a rifle shot into...) and artillery he brought back from the sandbox (...the shell struck a curb and shattered into fragments...)

Killer reporting!
Was he using slugs or something?
 
Maybe it was one of those M-16/12-gauge masterkey dealies... and the ejecting brass (shell) is what hit the curb?
:neener:
 
I have been following this story locally and all other news reports referred to his weapon as a shotgun.
 
Daniel Cotnoir maybe a hero for some people for going to Iraq, but he is still an idiot with little common sense for his actions. What predecient does ths set for the rest of us? He intentionaly fire a gun near a crowd on a public street from his home. Luckly no one was more seriouly injured. I don't care where one lives, actions like this should be proscutted to the fullest extent of the law. He was not in the right at all in this case. He should be behind bars for a long time. Hopefully the local chief of police will revoke his firearm license for good. His actions severly taint all gun owners in this state. No one has the right to shoot someone in the a public street for throwing a bottle through the window. He was not under attack. He was in his home.

I also read this account in the local newspaper. In that article it discribed the gun as a shotgun loaded with buck shot.
 
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I'm with cbsbyte:

A tossed bottle does not merit a lethal response. Firing a firearm near a crowd is potentially lethal, so the Marine's response was disproportionate to the threat.

He's a Marine, he knows about ROE, he has no excuse. Not saying he needs to do a decade in the slammer, but restitution to the injured, fines for disturbing the peace, and a long probation would definitely be in order.

Huge difference between respecting a man, and canonizing him...

-MV
 
A jury of his peers thought different and that's how this system works.

And to quench the rifle/shotgun arguement...what if he did infact fire a shotgun, but he had a slug?
 
A jury can acquit you whether what you did was against the law or not. That's the way it works.

I have to say, I agree with the prosecutor's statement. He may be a good man, but he did something monumentally stupid that night. . . .

IF we accept the news report at face value. IF the jury didn't have more facts available that cast the situation as something more than just a bottle through a window from some noisy clubbers.
 
The Marine was right, in my opinion.

A bottle thrown through a window can shatter, causing lacerations to the face, possibly taking out an eye. I know that actually didn't happen, but it could have. He didn't know what was in the bottle; for all he knew, it could have been a molotov cocktail that didn't go off. He was in his own place of abode and had no duty to retreat. The prosecutor is the one that was out of line bringing charges.
 
Actually the law here in the People's Republic does say that you have the obligation to retreat if you possibly can, even from your own home. He was lucky to get off. I applaud him and his actions.

And to answer the obvious question . . . No, I don't know why any of us choose to live here. I've got another year to two in the high-paying job that's holding me in this socialist hell-hole and then I'm gone.
 
No you do not have to retreat while in your home in Mass though you can only use deadly force against an act of deadly agression. Mass state law requires one in the public to retreat unless otherwise impossible. Shooting at someone on the street from a window in a house is illegal in this state, and most others. The DA must be a dunce, especially in Salem, not to be able to convice the Jury the shooter was in the wrong. I bet the shooter being a minority had something to do with the jury's desicion. I bet if I was the shooter I would be in jail right now for sometime.
 
The Marine was right, in my opinion.

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A bottle thrown through a window can shatter, causing lacerations to the face, possibly taking out an eye. I know that actually didn't happen, but it could have. He didn't know what was in the bottle; for all he knew, it could have been a molotov cocktail that didn't go off. He was in his own place of abode and had no duty to retreat. The prosecutor is the one that was out of line bringing charges.


+1


What if the mother was standing in the window wondering what all the comotion was, holding her infant. (The street thugs didn't know there wasn't a baby.) And the bottle struck the infant, or a piece of glass from the window struck the infant. The baby could have died.

In an ideal world, anyone indecent enough to do such a thing should expect to die where he stands.

I think the jury made a statement that they are not going to be harassed and threatened in their homes or on the streets anymore.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

All around a happy ending.
 
A warning shot was a bad idea, especially in the general direction of the perps. People that throw a beer bottle through your front window aren't nice people. If he lives across the street from a club this probably happens more than any of us would like (not necessarily the bottle but rowdy crowds outside his house). I would hate to be in his shoes (mainly because of the locale) in this situation. I wonder what would happen if your average joe did this? Don't get me wrong, the guy is obviously a great Marine but it makes you wonder. Does he go from a crazy guy blasting an errant shot to a skilled person making a precision diversion?
 
screw em

ik live in va and if someone throws something through my window whith the kid at home i'm not firing at clear areas. they can pick up the thowers off the ground or in the er.
here all we need is "a reasonable man would fear for his life". had a guy shoot 2 guys killing one in a waffle house parking lot after he and a friend were attacked by 5 other guys. he was never even charged.


wonder what charge woulda been if he's used a "stinger round"
 
He should be behind bars for a long time.

For some, like mself, the prospect of a legal nightmare is the deterrent. I would not have fired under those circumstances, but I am glad he got off. And I would imagine, he would not be so quick to fire, after this experience.
 
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