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Ok so I order a lee quick trim deluxe and die. Worked well for about 100 223 cases and now it leaves a burr on the outside of the neck. Took it apart oiled it. Still same problem. The tool trims to length very consistently and leaves a nice chamfer on the inside of the neck just the outside burr thats got me. The whole idea was to speed up the trimming process and at the beginning I was sold but now I'm kinda on the fence.
 
I have one and so far it has done a couple thousand 223’s with no problems. Post up some pics of the cutter and maybe we can figure out what’s wrong. Maybe try resetting the die? Last thought would be to contact Lee about it. Sorry I can’t be of more help.
 
rtufixer said:
Ok so I order a lee quick trim deluxe and die. Worked well for about 100 223 cases and now it leaves a burr on the outside of the neck. Took it apart oiled it. Still same problem. The tool trims to length very consistently and leaves a nice chamfer on the inside of the neck just the outside burr thats got me. The whole idea was to speed up the trimming process and at the beginning I was sold but now I'm kinda on the fence.
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First thing is check and make sure you didn't accidentally trim any copper or brass washed steel cases. That'll dull a cutter quick. Second thing is to clean it off and see if you can spot any chips or dull spots on the cutting surfaces. If it's just dull, complain to Lee and dress the surface. Cutters shouldn't dull that quickly but it's been known to happen, even with quality made cutting tools. If it's chipped and you are 100% sure you didn't cut any plated brass or copper/washed steel cases, complain to Lee and ask for a replacement. A steel cutter shouldn't chip cutting brass.
 
rtufixer said:
Ok so I order a lee quick trim deluxe and die. Worked well for about 100 223 cases and now it leaves a burr on the outside of the neck. Took it apart oiled it. Still same problem. The tool trims to length very consistently and leaves a nice chamfer on the inside of the neck just the outside burr thats got me. The whole idea was to speed up the trimming process and at the beginning I was sold but now I'm kinda on the fence.
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That sounds like something on the chamfer widget, I have no idea what to call it, but it's the "wings" on the outside that hit the outside of the neck and chamfer it. Hit it with an aircompressor, and see if there is a nick or something on that causing it. Also check all the fittings and adjustments to make sure everything is tight where it's supposed to be. You can buy replacements separate, but Lee should do you right by it, as I've gotten thousands of trimmed brass with those before they needed replacement.
 
Trimmed all lake city brass. Pulled it apart and checked for any brass shaving there was some but cleaned it out. I did ddress the spring steel with a stone but only on the flats didnt feel any high spots. Maybe I'll try to stone a slight bevel on the outside cutter and see if that helps. I'm going to email lee and see if i get any kind of response from them.
 
Well spoke with Lee about my problem. I was told to mail the defective product to them then they would inspect it if covered by warranty they send me another but I had to pay shipping etc. Customer service meh not impressed. Don't get me wrong I'm not expecting freebies here but I'll just get another one if that one works great but not sold on the whole customer satisfaction deal with Lee.
 
rtufixer said:
Well spoke with Lee about my problem. I was told to mail the defective product to them then they would inspect it if covered by warranty they send me another but I had to pay shipping etc. Customer service meh not impressed. Don't get me wrong I'm not expecting freebies here but I'll just get another one if that one works great but not sold on the whole customer satisfaction deal with Lee.
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Rule of thumb when Buying Lee. Buy 2 becuse it cheaper then dealing with their CS <<< inject laughter!

and I’m also a Lee Fan Boy! Wish I could get a Lee APP teeshirt
 
Rolling a burr on brass (metal) is normally from a dull cutter. Inspect the cutting edges. Brass is usually a fairly soft metal but occasionally a tougher alloy can quickly dull a cutter, or rub rather than cut and leave small deposits of metal along cutting edges...
 
RCBS has one of the best cs depts in the reloading industry. Yes, they are more expensive but they will replace any worn part or damaged part even though it was the users fault. Hope Lee works out for you!!
 
A lot of times you can tell how long someone has been reloading by the amount of Lee equipment still in their inventory.
- It’s a joke! - (but maybe not far away from true)
I have some Lee dies that work well but most everything else that was Lee has been replaced over the years. For the most part I feel that Lee, in their quest to make things “more affordable” designs things as cheaply as possible, then a little bit more. That “little more” is too much.
- A 3/8 bolt would last forever, A 5/16 might be the smallest that will reliably work. Lee: let’s use a 1/4” bolt!
 
rtufixer said:
Trimmed all lake city brass. Pulled it apart and checked for any brass shaving there was some but cleaned it out. I did ddress the spring steel with a stone but only on the flats didnt feel any high spots. Maybe I'll try to stone a slight bevel on the outside cutter and see if that helps. I'm going to email lee and see if i get any kind of response from them.
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Buy a new on, the cost of shipping both ways will cost you the same
 
twarr1 said:
A lot of times you can tell how long someone has been reloading by the amount of Lee equipment still in their inventory.
- It’s a joke! - (but maybe not far away from true)!
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Is that a fact?
I have 4 lee presses, 8 sets of dies, 4 powder measures, Case trimmer, Casting pot and 7 molds. All purchased by design!
Oh BTW I have been reloading since 1980
 
twarr1 said:
A lot of times you can tell how long someone has been reloading by the amount of Lee equipment still in their inventory.
- It’s a joke! - (but maybe not far away from true)
I have some Lee dies that work well but most everything else that was Lee has been replaced over the years. For the most part I feel that Lee, in their quest to make things “more affordable” designs things as cheaply as possible, then a little bit more. That “little more” is too much.
- A 3/8 bolt would last forever, A 5/16 might be the smallest that will reliably work. Lee: let’s use a 1/4” bolt!
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I’m buying more Lee stuff as I get more into it. I always say Lee is not for beginners, their instructions are ~~~~~ wingle wingle at best. and the customer service is Bar None Zero!

The Pro 4000 is GOOD! and at $150! A MAN AMAZING. APP! best thing since mail in voting! Universal expander with Noe Plugs, best $25 you can spend! Cheap Lee dies on Midway clearance, now we talking!!
 
If you are putting too much downward pressure while trimming that can cause a ridge to form on the brass. I have been using the same setup for all my rifle calibers for years, and have gotten an occasional bur when I exerted too much downward pressure. Another possibility is that the blades that deburr are not dropping down enough. I keep a piece of 2x4 on the bench to give the cutter assembly an occasional few quick downward taps to clear it of brass particles/dust which may be a source of binding the cutter blades interfering with them dropping down into their proper position. The Lee haters are ever quick to be dismissive of Lee products. When Lee uses non-metallic products it's "cheap plastic", but when other brands use it it's a "high tech polymer";). I have been reloading for 30+ years with equipment from the major brands [except Big Blue where I could not justify the expense for MY needs] and find Lee products satisfactory and have been giving me good service all that time.
 
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If you are putting too much downward pressure while trimming that can cause a ridge to form on the brass. I have been using the same setup for all my rifle calibers for years, and have gotten an occasional bur when I exerted too much downward pressure. Another possibility is that the blades that deburr are not dropping down enough. I keep a piece of 2x4 on the bench to give the cutter assembly an occasional few quick downward taps to clear it of brass particles/dust which may be a source of binding the cutter blades interfering with them dropping down into their proper position. The Lee haters are ever quick to be dismissive of Lee products. When Lee uses non-metallic products it's "cheap plastic", but when other brands use it it's a "high tech polymer";). I have been reloading for 30+ years with equipment from the major brands [except Big Blue where I could not justify the expense for MY needs] and find Lee products satisfactory and have been giving me good service all that time.
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I get what your saying. I'm not bearing down on the drill. I'm using a battery operated drill at about 250 rpm. Trimmer and sleeve thatvit goes in oiled. Yes I did the 2x4 trick also to keep out shavings. As stated worked fine then just took a ****. Yes I took it apart cleaned lubed
 
twarr1 said:
A lot of times you can tell how long someone has been reloading by the amount of Lee equipment still in their inventory.
- It’s a joke! - (but maybe not far away from true)
I have some Lee dies that work well but most everything else that was Lee has been replaced over the years. For the most part I feel that Lee, in their quest to make things “more affordable” designs things as cheaply as possible, then a little bit more. That “little more” is too much.
- A 3/8 bolt would last forever, A 5/16 might be the smallest that will reliably work. Lee: let’s use a 1/4” bolt!
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I have been reloading since 1968 and I STILL have about every item of gear that I have purchased from Lee. They are the company that keeps the others honest and the prices lower overall IMO. Seriously, I have had better results with Lee products than One Shot brass lube LOL. Every brand has good and bad products. Even the Lee scale works as promised, though a bit "fiddley " to use. The only time I had a dull Lee cutter was after trimming a bunch of plated brass. Just sayi'n.
 
I started out with lee case trimming products and trimmed several thousand cases. At some point it seemed to start wearing out. Went to a forster and really like it.
 
rtufixer said:
Customer service meh not impressed. Don't get me wrong I'm not expecting freebies here but I'll just get another one if that one works great but not sold on the whole customer satisfaction deal with Lee.
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Welcome to the world of Lee. Part of the price of anything is the customer service that comes with it. I went thru a similar issue with a set of their dies. I would have to send in the problematic die on my dime and then if it was deemed defective they would send me another....on my dime. More than the cost of a new die. Funny how that works, eh?
 
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