dww
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Deer loads?
Plinking loads?
Elk loads?
HELP! please?
Plinking loads?
Elk loads?
HELP! please?
Just got my first 270, a Remington 700 Titanium - need loads
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Steve Smith
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I will not post charge weights but I'll tell ya what I load.
130 gr Nosler Partitions for deer. H-4831 and Federal mag primers to light it off.
160 Nosler Partitions and RL-22 for the "big" stuff.
110 Hornady HP's and IMR-4350 sparked by Win WLR primers. Prairie dog smackers.
Historically, "the" powder for the .270 has always been H-4831. Pretty hard to go wrong with that stuff in the 270.
Tim
130 gr Nosler Partitions for deer. H-4831 and Federal mag primers to light it off.
160 Nosler Partitions and RL-22 for the "big" stuff.
110 Hornady HP's and IMR-4350 sparked by Win WLR primers. Prairie dog smackers.
Historically, "the" powder for the .270 has always been H-4831. Pretty hard to go wrong with that stuff in the 270.
Tim
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Jack O'Connor's Favorite
One of the best overall hunting calibers around.
CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The High Road, nor the staff of THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.
56gr H-4831 ,130 gr.SpeerSPBT,Fed210 primer,FC case,3.300 OAL gives 1moa in my Ruger M77II . Substitute Nosler BTand CCI200 primers for 1moa in son's Savage.
46 gr.IMR4064,130 gr.Hornady SST,WLR primer,FC case.3.250 OAL gives cloverleaves in my son in law's Savage 110.
For deer,hogs,and plinking it doesn't get any better than this for this small group of rifles. Have not had the opportunity to hunt elk yet but as devastating as these are on deer and hogs with well placed shots I cannot imagine needing more.
One of the best overall hunting calibers around.
CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The High Road, nor the staff of THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.
56gr H-4831 ,130 gr.SpeerSPBT,Fed210 primer,FC case,3.300 OAL gives 1moa in my Ruger M77II . Substitute Nosler BTand CCI200 primers for 1moa in son's Savage.
46 gr.IMR4064,130 gr.Hornady SST,WLR primer,FC case.3.250 OAL gives cloverleaves in my son in law's Savage 110.
For deer,hogs,and plinking it doesn't get any better than this for this small group of rifles. Have not had the opportunity to hunt elk yet but as devastating as these are on deer and hogs with well placed shots I cannot imagine needing more.
HankB
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Just a caution . . . while H4831 seems to be a favorite powder for loading the .270, be aware that it is NOT the same as IMR4831.
A friend got a .270 M700 some years ago, and used data from his manual for "4831" powder. Being printed when there was only ONE "4831" powder, the manual didn't specify "H" as the prefix. But then DuPont brought out their own version, IMR4831, which burned noticeably FASTER than H4831.
No damage, but it really stuck the bolt on his .270 . . . took both of us to open it. (Another reason not to start with max loads "since manuals never show REAL maximums.")
A friend got a .270 M700 some years ago, and used data from his manual for "4831" powder. Being printed when there was only ONE "4831" powder, the manual didn't specify "H" as the prefix. But then DuPont brought out their own version, IMR4831, which burned noticeably FASTER than H4831.
No damage, but it really stuck the bolt on his .270 . . . took both of us to open it. (Another reason not to start with max loads "since manuals never show REAL maximums.")
Smoke Rizen
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My favorite! Use it on everything, Three Line Squirrels, to Elk. I have never had much luck loading anything smaller than 100gr. Seems to lose accuracy when I load 90gr. points. Probably could if I slowed it down or had a lower rate of twist barrel. The main thing in loading the .270 is to achieve about a 3000fps. velosity and use IMR-4831 (IMHO). Ive used the .270 for all my hunting, unless I'm using a .22 or scattergun, for about 27 years. I don't intend to start an argument on "best gun" I just love a chance to brag on my favorite cartridge. S.R. P.S. Not intended for Moose, or very large carnivorous Bears.....
My favorite! Use it on everything, Three Line Squirrels, to Elk. I have never had much luck loading anything smaller than 100gr. Seems to lose accuracy when I load 90gr. points. Probably could if I slowed it down or had a lower rate of twist barrel. The main thing in loading the .270 is to achieve about a 3000fps. velosity and use IMR-4831 (IMHO). Ive used the .270 for all my hunting, unless I'm using a .22 or scattergun, for about 27 years. I don't intend to start an argument on "best gun" I just love a chance to brag on my favorite cartridge. S.R. P.S. Not intended for Moose, or very large carnivorous Bears.....
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dww and all .270 lovers
I don't buy many gun magazines, but once in awhile an issue of interest to me comes out. I have the July 2003 issue of Shooting Times, in which Rick Jamison publishes data for 16 handloads and what he would use them for. Might be worth your time to try to order a back issue at www.shootingtimes.com . Lots of good bullets available today, and some fine recipes already given.
I don't buy many gun magazines, but once in awhile an issue of interest to me comes out. I have the July 2003 issue of Shooting Times, in which Rick Jamison publishes data for 16 handloads and what he would use them for. Might be worth your time to try to order a back issue at www.shootingtimes.com . Lots of good bullets available today, and some fine recipes already given.
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I've owned two .270's and loaded for a number of friends .270's.
All were very consistent in their preferences.
These are not maximum loads but approach maximums, so start 5% below and work up a 1.0gr increments.
130gr "Deer"; Hornady 130gr Interlok, Sierra 130 (my favorite), Nosler 130gr Bal.Tip. (usually very close to Sierra accuracy wise, Sierra much cheaper though).
130gr "Elk"; Nosler 130 Part. some things just can't be improved on! It's been "working" for over 50yrs. now. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Powder: 54.0gr IMR4350, gives just under 3,000fps w/22"bbl, at or just over 3,000 from 24" bbl. I've never seen pressure signs with this load in any gun. Jack O'Conner used to claim 56.1, but that is way-way above all current listed Max loads, and even he claimed that he only used it in one "lot" of older Winchester brass. If accuracy can be better, I haven't seen it. Current manuals list 54.5 to 55.0 as max, and that is my experience. But with this cartridge, there's no reason to run max. as performance is what everything else is compared too. (It, and the .30/06 w/180gr bullets)
H4831 @58.0gr comes close but "no cigar" in my experience. H414 @ 54.0gr is good too. H4350 is highly recommended, but will take slightly more quantity to get the "magic" 3,000fps usually sought. (nothing really magic though- The magic is in the high B.C. and S.D. of the .270 bullets!).
Some manuals list 60.0gr of H4831, but I've never been able, even with a drop-tube, to get that much in most .270wcf cases. So, I've always just stuck with 58.0gr. Also no excessive pressure signs ever encountered.
Seat 130gr bullets to 3.250" oal. Accuracy with "Sporter" guns depends more on concentric necks and good "straight" dies and expander button shafts, than trying to get the bullet close to the lands, IMO. Also, if loading for only one rifle, size previously fired brass to completely size down the neck, but don't allow shoulder to contact die. This gives 5-shot groups in all the .270's I've loaded for ar or under 1.0"@100yds with listed bullets. One friends Sauer, with the Noslers, would shoot under 0.5". Another had a Husquvarna that also did this. Most "Rem-Chesters" I've tried ran .75-1.0", even a Winchester "Ranger" w'birch stock, and a couple or Remington 78's. Not bad for "bargain" rifles !!
A friend has a very early Ruger M77 that will shoot "3-touching" most every time, with the Hornady 130, and 54.0gr of IMR4350! The first time it did it was with Iron-Sights !! No Kidding !!, He still has the group in a display frame. It was the 11, 12, and 13 round fired from the gun, in 1975. Ammo was loaded with a Lee "hand-loader", and powder measured by a Pacific scale (mine).
I've not enough experience with the 140 to make recommendations. Several friends report excellent "deer" success with both the Hornady 140gr boattail interlokt, and Nosler Balistic Tips.
My trials with the 150gr says that H4831SC (short cut version), is the "cats-meow", but prefered powder weights seem to be much more "gun specific". I believe 54.0-55.0 will give around 2,800fps.
My advice is to just stick with the 130's, except perhaps for Moose, then use a 150 Nosler Partition. Use a Sierra for anything smaller than Elk, and the Nosler 130 Part. for Elk and Moose.
Might want to look into RL-19, and RL-22 powders too, as I've had excellent performance with them through my .30'06 w/165-180gr bullets. Have never gotten around to trying them in the .270.
For things that can "BITE", I'd use my .338/06 with 210gr Partitions.
All were very consistent in their preferences.
These are not maximum loads but approach maximums, so start 5% below and work up a 1.0gr increments.
130gr "Deer"; Hornady 130gr Interlok, Sierra 130 (my favorite), Nosler 130gr Bal.Tip. (usually very close to Sierra accuracy wise, Sierra much cheaper though).
130gr "Elk"; Nosler 130 Part. some things just can't be improved on! It's been "working" for over 50yrs. now. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Powder: 54.0gr IMR4350, gives just under 3,000fps w/22"bbl, at or just over 3,000 from 24" bbl. I've never seen pressure signs with this load in any gun. Jack O'Conner used to claim 56.1, but that is way-way above all current listed Max loads, and even he claimed that he only used it in one "lot" of older Winchester brass. If accuracy can be better, I haven't seen it. Current manuals list 54.5 to 55.0 as max, and that is my experience. But with this cartridge, there's no reason to run max. as performance is what everything else is compared too. (It, and the .30/06 w/180gr bullets)
H4831 @58.0gr comes close but "no cigar" in my experience. H414 @ 54.0gr is good too. H4350 is highly recommended, but will take slightly more quantity to get the "magic" 3,000fps usually sought. (nothing really magic though- The magic is in the high B.C. and S.D. of the .270 bullets!).
Some manuals list 60.0gr of H4831, but I've never been able, even with a drop-tube, to get that much in most .270wcf cases. So, I've always just stuck with 58.0gr. Also no excessive pressure signs ever encountered.
Seat 130gr bullets to 3.250" oal. Accuracy with "Sporter" guns depends more on concentric necks and good "straight" dies and expander button shafts, than trying to get the bullet close to the lands, IMO. Also, if loading for only one rifle, size previously fired brass to completely size down the neck, but don't allow shoulder to contact die. This gives 5-shot groups in all the .270's I've loaded for ar or under 1.0"@100yds with listed bullets. One friends Sauer, with the Noslers, would shoot under 0.5". Another had a Husquvarna that also did this. Most "Rem-Chesters" I've tried ran .75-1.0", even a Winchester "Ranger" w'birch stock, and a couple or Remington 78's. Not bad for "bargain" rifles !!
A friend has a very early Ruger M77 that will shoot "3-touching" most every time, with the Hornady 130, and 54.0gr of IMR4350! The first time it did it was with Iron-Sights !! No Kidding !!, He still has the group in a display frame. It was the 11, 12, and 13 round fired from the gun, in 1975. Ammo was loaded with a Lee "hand-loader", and powder measured by a Pacific scale (mine).
I've not enough experience with the 140 to make recommendations. Several friends report excellent "deer" success with both the Hornady 140gr boattail interlokt, and Nosler Balistic Tips.
My trials with the 150gr says that H4831SC (short cut version), is the "cats-meow", but prefered powder weights seem to be much more "gun specific". I believe 54.0-55.0 will give around 2,800fps.
My advice is to just stick with the 130's, except perhaps for Moose, then use a 150 Nosler Partition. Use a Sierra for anything smaller than Elk, and the Nosler 130 Part. for Elk and Moose.
Might want to look into RL-19, and RL-22 powders too, as I've had excellent performance with them through my .30'06 w/165-180gr bullets. Have never gotten around to trying them in the .270.
For things that can "BITE", I'd use my .338/06 with 210gr Partitions.
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