Justice officials in "Panic Mode" over failed Gun Program

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Sure was !! And what a "ready made" vehicle for the Obama Administration to use to achieve its goals, too !! All they had to do was dump some funding for straw purchases in and have ATF field agents ordered not to interdict the transfer of the SP guns ! Its a "win win" ! If it succeeds the radical wing of the DNP and the President gets their wish. If it "blows up", they can spin it to claim - like you - "Bush did it" !!

You might want to check the arrest/prosecution record of this op prior to '08. The reason why CUBATF exists is due to "higher up echelon" ordering field agents to let the guns walk; clearly a 180' turn from previous practice, per sworn testimony by agents . >MW
 
where are you all following this story? what are some places to keep up to date on it? fox and cnn have more important things going on apparently.
 
Absolutely, the ATF tried to force Randy Weaver to sell an illegal shot gun to an aquaintance, when Weaver refused, they turned their rath on him and his family, and we know what that resulted in,....dont we.
 
Davek1977, ....if the Congress doesnt seem to be able to find out, the ATF and DOJ refuse to co operate, as well as Mexican officials, so how would you know if class three weapons are involved or not ?
 
Davek, it appears you might be mistaken about class three weapons involvement.

Fast and Furious - NewsandSentinel.com | News, Sports, Jobs ...
www.newsandsentinel.com/page/content.detail/id/549829.html - CachedFast and Furious. Stop coverups in government. July 10, 2011 ... including some fully automatic weapons, to "straw buyers" in Texas and Arizona. ... ATF officials involved with "Fast and Furious," he was prohibited from telling Congress ...
►pons involvement..
 
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How many times do the alphabet agencies have to prove to us that they are criminal to the core. Busting the little guy who mistakenly makes an SBR, or kids who make prank phone calls. In the mean time, they let the big dogs (mafia, domestic terrorism/ religious cults) slip through the cracks.
 
The unpleasant odor being left on this by the conspiracy theorists and paranoiacs is going to ensure that no serious consequences for the ATF result.
 
The unpleasant odor being left on this by the conspiracy theorists and paranoiacs is going to ensure that no serious consequences for the ATF result.
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Buying the "just another isolated incident" scam pushed by the shills for the administration will ensure that no serious consequences for Holder and the DoJ (and their dim witted master) result.

Too bad for you, nobody's buying the BS anymore.

There's more smoke here than from a 1,000,000,000 burning tires. Underneath lies the fires of hell.

This goes ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP, and even the deniers know it.
 
Thanks Baba Louie, but I can't get that link to work. Could you double check it please?
 
Sure it does.



It's a conspiracy
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I think I've heard something like that before...

Oh yeah, now I remember.

The murder of Kathryn Johnston by the Atlanta PD and the Danziger Bridge murders by the New Orleans PD. Just a couple of "conspiracy theories". Never happened at all, right...?
 
Azmjs, you're thick as <deleted> if you don't realize the ATF has been doing this kind of <deleted> for a very, very long time.
 
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The more I hear and read about this, the more I think it was all intenitonally done to create an atmosphere that 'they' hope turns the tide on new gun control legislation that is reported to be pending introduction. Heads need to roll way up to the top on this one....
 
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I think I've heard something like that before...

Oh yeah, now I remember.

The murder of Kathryn Johnston by the Atlanta PD and the Danziger Bridge murders by the New Orleans PD. Just a couple of "conspiracy theories". Never happened at all, right...?
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I'm sure it's perfectly reasonable to look at two cases of corruption in local PDs as reasons why F&F is a conspiracy that GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP of the federal government. :rolleyes:.
 
Fast and Furious is the corollary to the Obama Administration's policy of "Don't let a crisis go to waste."

They have moved on to, "If we haven't got a crisis, we'll create one."

And that was the goal of Fast and Furious -- to create a crisis by arming Mexican drug dealers with weapons purchased in the United States.
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And he'll get away with it too, because Republicans in congress are scared to death of being called "racist", so they will handle Holder with kid gloves and ignore Obama completely. Obama could murder a hooker on national TV and then set the White House on fire and nothing would happen to him for fear of offending somebody.

BTW, I sent a message to my congressman yesterday, a pro-gun Democrat, asking why nobody has submitted a bill yet to defund the BATF.
 
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I certainly hope this investigation pulls down the ones responsible, whereever they may sit, and I hope it does not affect the innocent, if a single innocent actually exists in Washington, D.C., plus I hope the agencie responsible feel the sting in definded operations, helping to balance that budget.
 
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I'm sure it's perfectly reasonable to look at two cases of corruption in local PDs as reasons why F&F is a conspiracy that GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP of the federal government.
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I'm sure that it's perfectly reasonable to dismiss all law enforcement corruption as a "conspiracy theory".

Come on, tell us how Kathryn Johnston really was a "drug dealer"...
 
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way" -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

...and HE was a master. Maybe THE master of Machiavellian intrigue and manipulation to get what he wanted.

Read his quote again then think about things that this agency has had happen or made happen, and all of the punishment for or to those responsible... :rolleyes:

kis2 the link works for me. Sorry. Use your google-fu grasshopper, it's out there.
 
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