KAHR: a piece O' crap

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That is what I read from many people, specifically about the polymer ones. But I am hard headed and bought one anyway, a PM45 to be exact. I just got it today and I'll admit I was very nervous about dropping close to $700 bucks for a gun with mixed reviews like that one seemed to have, but I wanted a pocketable .45 So my options with that criteria were very limited. Even the PM45 is a pocket full.

I knew they recommend 200 rounds for "break in" so I figured I would put at least that much through it before making any judgement about it. Well, I shot 100 rounds of WWB through it today and had 1 ftf at about 40 rounds, that was the only issue I had. Then I asked my wife to shot it, 3-point jam every round:what:, I took it back from her and it fired every time I pulled the trigger. I have heard of limp-wristing (and seen the vids on youtube) but this was the first time I've ever seen it. Anyway this doesn't bother me much because I don't seem to have the problem and she won't be shooting it anyway, she has her XD .40.

So to only own it a few hours now, I'm happy with the gun. The recoil isn't as bad as thought it would be, I did shoot just over 100 rounds with it in about 2 hours. And it has run 99% with me shooting during the break-in period. I'll keep ya'll informed on how it runs from here on out.

I hope my good luck continues.

DS
 
Then I asked my wife to shot it, 3-point jam every round
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Yeah, she was definitly limp wristing it. Polymers are notorious for that. Glad to hear you like it though and, more importantly, that it works for you!
 
I just purchased a 9mm 'E' model (discontinued and replaced w/cw9). Let me tell you, this little pistol has the best trigger of any stock handgun I've used (DAO). It feels like the Ruger LCR trigger but shorter. it's never failed to fire in 350 rounds. It's so nice i'm buying another one.

Keep us posted, I may have to have a 45 cal Kahr.
 
They sure are compact, but my mk40 is certainly heavy. Great for a belt... no so much for a pocket.
 
Kahrs are very prone to limp wristing. I cannot even shoot the polymer ones one handed. (at least the one I tried that is) No issues with the K9 though.

Kahrs are guns that are great as long as you follow the rules. Make sure to read the manual and follow the directions they give in there especially as it refers to the field stripping and reassembly.
 
Field stripping a Kahr can be quite the task. You need 3 hands to do it without quite a bit of cursing. I suppose like everything else I'll grow accustomed to it, but at the current time - it's a pain in the A$$.
 
I have put a few more rounds through it, some Gold Dots, Cor Bons, Golden Sabers, and some Winchester Silver tips that I had laying around. Everything has run right through so far with no more malfunctions at all. The recoil is starting to get to me though, some of the last ammo was +P and it pretty much did me in for the day.

I do have a couple complaints though. The brass fly's right over my rt shoulder, a couple have hit my rt ear muff, none have hit me in the face or on my head yet but I can see it coming. No big deal though, this isn't a plinker it's SD gun and once I gain confidence in it I will probably only shoot it enough to stay familiar with it.

And the front checkering is "dang it" sharp, but again I'm not gonna complain much because it probably want be much of a problem as long as I'm not shooting 150 rounds through it like today.

I have yet to really check it for accuracy but I can consistently hit a 3x4 inch homemade plinker about 20 yards from my front porch, that is good enough for me, at least for a SD gun.

I asked a while back in another thread about super compact .45's and someone sent me a PM about the PM45 and that is what started me to looking at them, I wish I could remember who it was so I could say Thanks. So far I am very satisfied with the gun, now off to find the perfect holster.
 
I got a Kahr P9 as my deep conceal SD gun, and have been happy with it. Haven't found the recoil to be bad at all. I imagine the .45 version would be a bit more stout, though ---
 
I carry the PM45's cousin, the CW45. My pistol has been shot quite a bit, I estimate 1500-2000 rounds. So far there haven't been any major malfunctions. If you decide to reload, keep in mind that the Kahr 45's will have trouble feeding lead SWC bullets. They get hung up on the feed ramp. Round nose bullets have no problem being cycled.
 
you can smooth the checkering with alittle fine sand paper, u have a super nice 45, it will only get smoother with more rounds down range to. Grease the slide rails, rack that puppy about 500 times, sure helps breakin without the bang thing. Sorry about ur wife haveing issue with it, she definitely proves what limpwristing is all about. actually kahrs ARE NOT a limpy gun either, due to it high bore axis, limping a kahr is not as easy as one would thing for such a lite weight gun.

Get it broken in more and let here try it again to see if she does better. If I was going to buy her a gun it would be the PM9 and not the 45 or the CW9, would make her one heh of a nice shooting gun with alittle more grip area than the PM series.

congrats, u have a nice 45. not much in its class either

I believe it was me who sent u the recommendation on the PM45....

IMO don't expect 25 yard great accuracy as the loooong trigger is there by design and it takes some time and rounds down range to get used to that trigger. It is so smooth but not like glock triggers of Smith M & P triggers, nor do those two conceal half as nice as your PM45 either. Tghe kahrs are all truly double action semi's so so much like shooting a wheel gun. If u can shoot a wheel gun DA with good accuracy the kahrs will be a snap..
 
..all of those issues can be addressed. I have carried 1911s almost exclusively and daily, and recently(last year) started carrying a Kahr 45 as a backup gun. It is a handful at times, but a little dehorning and tuning and its awesome. Chuck
 
I believe it was me who sent u the recommendation on the PM45....
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I thought it might have been but I couldn't remember for sure, anyway if it was I am grateful for the reccomendation. I read a good bit of stuff like earlthegoat2 linked to so I was skeptical about what results I was going to get, but so far so good.

About the sharp checkering on the front strap, I was considering a little sand paper but I don't want to do irreversible damage then I saw the Agrip in the accessories booklet that came with the gun.

Here it is on KAHR's site listed as "Wrap Around Non-Slip Grips....Agrip" It's near the bottom of the page, right above the sights.
I'm not sure what to make of it. What do you guys think? Has anybody used one?
 
Had the AGrip on a P40 and it is a really nice product. Kahr factory checking is brutal, I had to sand down my P45 or it would draw blood...
 
I love my Kahr P9 Covert and it has never malfunctioned when clean. If I put more than around 200-250 rounds through it between cleanings, I start to get FTEs, but that is hardly surprising given the tight clearances in the gun. Recoil is amazingly soft, given the size and weight of the gun. The trigger is excellent, the build quality is impeccible and the ergonomics are great. It is also a tack hammer. It is about the only gun I carry anymore.
 
You can break in the rails quickly by coating them with J&B Bore Cleaner paste and working the slide by hand. The paste is a VERY mild abrasive that will polish the surfaces until they're as smooth as butter. It will work much quicker than using oil or grease.

One of the top 1911 pistolsmiths in the country lived near me until his untimely death. Many times I watched as he tightened the rails and then smoothed them with J&B Bore Cleaner. Because the rails were so tight, after coating with J&B he'd have to literally drive the slide on and off with a rawhide mallet the first few cycles. Then the slide was cycled by hand and it didn't take long before the two parts worked like silk on glass.
 
I have a Kahr E9 that I bought new a few years ago. It has never jammed, and it feeds empty 9mm cases from the magazine (not that its practical or anything).

I avoided the polymer-framed Kahrs because I didn't like the feel. The only thing I don't like is that mine is the "economy" model and has no dovetailed front sight like the K series.
 
Oh, field stripping mine is a bitch. I have to bang the slide stop out the other side with the bottom of the magazine.
 
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the witness marks up and with a very fine blade small screwdriver, just insert it unthe slide lever and it will pop right out. To me one of the easiest lever tog et out..
 
"actually kahrs ARE NOT a limpy gun either, due to it high bore axis,"
Kahr pistols have low bore axis and I believe that's what you meant to say.
 
Oh, field stripping mine is a bitch. I have to bang the slide stop out the other side with the bottom of the magazine.
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On my CW9 I found that, if I get the index lines lined up, I can wiggle the slide a bit for and aft while pressing on the slide stop on the right side of the pistol and the slide stop will come right out.
 
someone mentioned that a twice folded bore patch stuffed between the ejection port and barrel will hold the slide in the correct position (witness marks)
 
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