Kahr CS not very good

[gunsnsprinkles]

Dog, can you read or just read things into a post? Never said I was a Christian or that I posted on a Christian site. I said that the Christian gun owner had a good post and review of the Kahr CW9.

Again, you need to assimilate what you read, are you dyslexic? Never said that I told Kahr CS that I used RAM on the first call, thats you making up stories. So its not me that needs to get the story striate its you that needs to learn to under stand what you read.

I can say the same anecdotal clap trap as you and that you are a whinnier about anyone who posts things you do not like. I could understand it if you just said you had a good experience with Kahr CS. That would be fine, but instead you attack anyone who says they have not. This leads me to believe you for some reason just want to cover up and shut up people who do not agree with your POV. Well I won't shut up and I don't agree with your POV. You may very well have had good luck or you may not, but it does nothing for those of us who have had bad luck with Kahr CS.

You sent five Kahrs back for CS and you call me unlucky. How stupid are you to throw out this kind of crap and expect any thinking person to believe that Kahrs don't have problems? I have had two minor issues with my Kahr so far, and a refusal form Kahr to take care of one, you sent five back and this make me unlucky?
WFT are you even talking about. You admit that one Kahr could not even fix and I am the one with unusual problems? Are you bipolar?

 

[bdb benzino]

OK, I have to post something here. I have been reading this thread ever since it started and am surprised it has not been closed yet.
I understand it sucks to have a problem with a new gun, but springs are a wear and dispose item. In some compacts the manufacturer recomends replacing the recoil spring after 1,000 rounds or so. I'm not sure what Kahr suggests but its likely you were half way through its life and I can see why they would not replace it for free. Especially after you admit using reloads and not having the broken spring you are complaining about.
Now don't get me wrong, I think the "no reloads" policy is stupid also, but you have to realize that companies do this to save $ and will use it when they can.
I do own a CW9 that has been amazing and not had even one malfunction, as well as had a CW45 that was just as reliable but it was traded in a weak moment. Although I do see some problems on line, I expect some of it when a company pushes the CCW envelope so far and makes such a small weapon, the likelyness of error is bound to increase.

My main problem is this thread is all you bashing Kahr and people who defend them for 3 pages. It is going nowhere and is not creating any useful knowledge past the first 20 posts or so.
I am sorry you got a bum deal but such is life, learn and move on. All you are doing is being confrontational and obsessing over your bad experience. If you no longer like Kahr, find a company that you do, that would be much more entertaining to read about.

 

[tjbeck]

I would like to second benzino...

Also, keep in mind no matter how hard you try, you cannot win the internet.

 

[gunsnsprinkles]

benzino, I agree with your points. My point is this, all I did was start a thread that made a legitimate complaint about CS. I never said Kahr firearms were garbage. I also showed how others are having problems with the gun itself and CS. It was people like Dogtown who started to attack me on a personal level.

As I stated and will do so again, I never told Kahr in the first phone call that I had used reloads so them denying a simple replacement spring on that basis is not correct. Second I had just ran the break-in period on the gun when the spring broke, this is not acceptable and even if I had run 1500 rounds through it, springs weaken they do not break. Kahrs first response was our springs do not break and I [CS rep] have never heard of this before.

I have bashed no one including Kahr. I have responded in kind to Dog, but thats something he started with his rants. So be fair and give equal criticism to those like Dog who troll. Also I do not "bash" Kahr, I have told what my experience has been with their CS. If that is bashing then you don't want to hear any neg experiences and should call this the positive only gun thread.

Again I will say, the CW9 could be one of the best guns in the world. I have my doubts and the guns problems has raised some serious issue for me to trust it.

My main point is that CS for Kahr in my and others experience was very poor. I stand by that, its not whining or bashing, its the way things are. If you think that a guns recoil spring breaking after 500 rds, and being two months old is normal wear and tear you have very low standards of quality.

Kahr has not stepped up to the plate on a simple 5 dollar spring on a two month old gun FACT.

I did not tell them about reloads on the first call where they denied service and wanted to look at the gun at my expense. FACT

Kahr after the second call used the fact I told them that I did use RAM ammo to deny any future service on the gun FACT

No other firearm manufacture has done this in all my guns I have owned FACT

Company's like Glock and Smith and Ruger stand behind and go beyond what they are responsible to do to make a satisfied customer, FACT

Posting that Kahr in my experience has not stood up to a gun that has had a couple of minor issues and now is creeping across the web for an 5 dollar spring is assanine, FACT.

And your good experience with Kahr does not make my bad one better, FACT.

People like Dog are only trying to shut people up who have problems with Kahr, I have seen his kind before and many people who have problems will think it better to just not say anything then post and get trolled by people like him. He throws out platitudes like candy on Halloween and many people will just not buy a Kahr or sell it in silence when they have a problem. I want people to see that I had a problem I feel Kahr will not stand behind their product, If RAM ammo broke the spring LMFAO than Kahr really is a POS ain't it?

If others have the same or other problems then we can connect the dots that this has gone beyond a couple of issue and is now a pattern. This is what posts like this are for. Dog does not want the patter to emerge and it seems he has some agenda. I don't know if he just has a HO for Kahr or does not like it when he is not the one who is telling others of problems and has to be the oracle of gun knowledge. To me he has discredited himself as a blow hard as he has attacked me on a personal level as a whinnier and complainer who abuses or does not know how to use his guns. So once again and I will say it in color and loud so maybe it can blow through some thick skulls, [I NEVER SAID KAHR FIREARMS ARE BAD, GARBAGE OR WILL NOT WORK, I AM ASSERTING THAT KAHR IN MY EXPERIENCE DOES NOT STAND BEHIND PROBLEMS WITH THEIR GUNS AND USES ANY FLIMSY REASON TO ESCAPE THEIR DUTY TO FIX EVEN THE SMALLEST PROBLEM IME. AND THAT OTHERS HAVE HAD THE SAME TYPE OF PROBLEMS AND EXPERIENCES WITH KAHR CS AS I HAVE HAD. ] So if this makes readers think twice about buying a Kahr, then I have accomplished what I set out to do, if they still buy one, I have set out to do what I wanted, think about Kahr do a bit of digging on the company and see what problems others are having. Will Glock or Smith fit the same bill and do they have better CS than Kahr. Don't just buy that Kahr is some great gun company that is problem free. I may even end up keeping my Kahr and will put some higher pressure rounds though it with my new G26 next week. If it runs a couple of hundred without the new spring breaking I may keep it knowing that if it falls apart its a trash can gun as Kahr will do nothing to take care of it.

 

[dogtown tom]

If you get all butthurt because other forum members have had good experiences with Kahr customer service....you need to grow the heck up.

 

[TimboKhan]

And, with that, this thread is over.

As a standing personal policy, I hate these customer service threads. Long explanation short, they always end up heated for some reason, and there is always a high signal to noise ratio.