Kahr cw9 opinions

[TheProf]

The PM9...being a very small gun (which is a plus in terms of concealment)...has very small tolerance of shooting error (limp wristing). Having shot over 1500 rounds in the PM9, I would say that i have overcome that problem. Yet...on rare occasions...when fatigue sets in...it can happen. (So...in terms of SD, I really don't want to have to worry about this. I want a gun that can go "bang"...even if I am injured and not holding it properly.

But my main concern that led me to trade-in my PM9 is the light strikes...especially when combined with WWB ammo (which tends to have hard primers.)

 

[19-3Ben]

especially when combined with WWB ammo (which tends to have hard primers.)

I thought it was CCI that was supposed to have hard primers with the others being relatively soft, no?
I don't reload, and all my guns shoot with anything, so I don't really know.

 

[9mmepiphany]

of the domestic manufacturers:

CCI has the hardest primers, Frederal has the softest

WWB is the dirtiest ammo, followed by Rem...YMMV

 

[gottabkiddin]

I just converted my CW9 to a covert model and love it...... Sweet shooter and I too am a Glock lover, but nothing conceals better than my Kahr.

 

[RevDerb]

Carry CW9 and PM9 interchangeably. Just depends on which side of the bed I get up on. I trust them both daily. Great, reliable firearms.

 

[19-3Ben]

gottabkiddin- I love that conversion. Looks fantastic!!! That would be one heck of a carry gun at a great price!
Nice work.

 

[wild cat mccane]

why don't more people chop the cw9 handle and make a pm9? (well covert)

I saw it on glocktalk but not much elsewhere.

 

[wnycollector]

Recently, I was looking for a small, lite 9mm that could occasionally be pocket carried. I checked out the Kahr PM-9, CW-9 plus the Kel-tec PF-9. Several of my shooting buddies are LEO's, ~two thirds of them carry Kahr's as their off duty weapon and they raved about the fit/finish and how wonderful they were to carry. To make a long story short, I bought the PF-9. It fit my hand and my budget the best (I got it for $282OTD). Thus far it is 100% reliable (as long I keep my fat fingers away from accidentally pushing the mag release...which I did twice!) in 400 rounds of cast reloads, fmj and jhp ammo. I would say to not overlook the PF-9 when you are shopping for a new CCW.

 

[clattin]

Sorry for the ignorance....but what is a "covert" conversion? I just bought a used CW9 and should have it tomorrow!

thanks!

Chris

 

[denfoote]

It's an alright gun.
I have nothing against it.
I just prefer it's stainless brother.

Sorry for the ignorance....but what is a "covert" conversion? I just bought a used CW9 and should have it tomorrow!

thanks!

Chris

Chris,

The Covert models were a transitional model from the "K" series to the "MK" or "micro Kahr" models. They were a K frame and slide but with the butt shortened to the MK length.
The closest analogy I can come up with is the Walther PPK/S which is a PPK slide mated to a PP frame.

 

[19-3Ben]

Sorry for the ignorance....but what is a "covert" conversion? I just bought a used CW9 and should have it tomorrow!

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but here goes.

Before the MK9/40 came out, Kahr released the K9/40 Covert models. They had the same slide/barrel as the regular K9/40, but with a chopped grip section the way that current MK9/40 has.

 

[bdb benzino]

So with the polymer Kahrs, they are taking a less expensive and larger CW series and chopping the grip to the same length as the PM series and then getting a PM series mag to fit it. It would have the same grip but a half of an inch longer slide.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

If you think of it as primarily a belt holstered gun and pocket carry in a pinch, I highly recommend it.

 

[Rubber_Duck]

I like my CW9 a lot. It is scary accurate for its size, and as long as you have a few hundred rounds down the tube to ensure break-in you will be good to go. It is pocket-sized yet feels and handles as good as a full-size handgun.

My wife also likes it a lot, her only gripe is she has trouble racking the slide since Kahrs use pretty stiff springs.

Check out my thread on the CW9: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=463013

 

[Grayowl]

I was really surprised that Justin Moon could come up with a well made handgun. The two Kahrs that I recommend to our students are the T-9 and the T-40. They are all stainless and even with a 4" barrel and 28 ozs, I consider them on the small and light side, but I wouldn't mind having one if I could get a cut rifling barrel. Their polygonal barrels don't handle lead reloads well.

 

[IdahoLT1]

The CW series has conventional rifling IIRC

 

[usp9]

The closest analogy I can come up with is the Walther PPK/S which is a PPK slide mated to a PP frame.

Kahr likes to fiddle with grip/slide combos. They did something similar with the TP9, which has come in both the K sized grip (7 rounds) and the T sized grip (8 rounds), but both variants retaining the 4" barrel.

Their polygonal barrels don't handle lead reloads well.

I've shot lead through my Kahrs with no problem. Here's what the Kahr web site says on the subject...

"Kahr cautions against the use of reloads. Lead (unjacketed) bullets can cause excessive fouling and extra attention to cleaning the bore is recommended after firing lead bullets. The Kahr pistol is rated to +P."

 

[Shpadoinkel]

What's the warranty situation with a Kahr?

I was (and might still be) set on a Bersa 9UC but I think it'll be a bit thick and heavy in the summer. The CW9 is only about $20 more in my area.
I know Bersa is lifetime for the original owner, what does the Kahr have?

 

[wally]

I run a box of fifty through my CW9 every range trip as a cheap practice analog for my PM40 carry gun. Figure I'm a good bit over 7000 rounds now, with nothing more than a recoil spring change at about 5000 rounds. I've only disassembled it for cleaning four or five times, counting to change the recoil spring. I've only disassembled the slide parts to clean the striker channel once at about 6000 rounds. I shoot mostly 147gr hard cast lead reloads using Unique or Wolf steel cased ball.

As to their warranty, mine broke within the first 25 rounds, shipped it back and its been fine since.

I figure I've more than paid for it with the savings of 9mm vs. .40S&W practice ammo costs and saved a lot of wear and tear on my PM40 (and my hand )

--wally.

 

[The Bushmaster]

Kahr, as far as I'm concerned, are kind of a crap shoot. If they are good they are real good. If they are bad, they are REAL dangerous in a life or death situation.

You asked for an opinion...This is mine.