Kahr MK9 Questions
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CatsDieNow
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Yeah, I thought of that as soon as I hit the submit button. 
Smaller fluting (is that what those grooves are called?) would be nice though.
Smaller fluting (is that what those grooves are called?) would be nice though.
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Another slide technique for extra leverage:
With a normal firing hold, point weapon to left (if right handed). Put the meaty part of the non-firing hand over the main bulk of the slide and squeeze tightly with fingers (the muzzle will be pointing in the same direction as you left elbow). Bring the weapon close to your chest and push your hands toward each other. This allows you to use chest, shoulder and arm muscles and is similar to the "jar opening" motion, without the twist. Uses the palms, keeps you fingers from getting scratched.
This position should also make it easy to push up on the slide latch, which is a good idea because you are likely covering the ejection port with your left. Extract the loaded round by hand. Do not point the weapon directly at your body during the process.
This is not a great technique for IDPA matches, but gives more leverage on a slide than anything else.
With a normal firing hold, point weapon to left (if right handed). Put the meaty part of the non-firing hand over the main bulk of the slide and squeeze tightly with fingers (the muzzle will be pointing in the same direction as you left elbow). Bring the weapon close to your chest and push your hands toward each other. This allows you to use chest, shoulder and arm muscles and is similar to the "jar opening" motion, without the twist. Uses the palms, keeps you fingers from getting scratched.
This position should also make it easy to push up on the slide latch, which is a good idea because you are likely covering the ejection port with your left. Extract the loaded round by hand. Do not point the weapon directly at your body during the process.
This is not a great technique for IDPA matches, but gives more leverage on a slide than anything else.
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Michigun.
The only time I use a fanny pack is when I'm on a bike. I also keep it over my right hip since I'm left handed.
All of the other times, the pistol is in the IWB holster.
Compare that to a woman who leeps a pistol in her purse. Also, remember there is an entire breed of criminals called "purse snatchers".
The only time I use a fanny pack is when I'm on a bike. I also keep it over my right hip since I'm left handed.
All of the other times, the pistol is in the IWB holster.
Compare that to a woman who leeps a pistol in her purse. Also, remember there is an entire breed of criminals called "purse snatchers".
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Cats,
If the MK9 does not work out, consider a Lady S&W .38 revolver, a Ruger SP101 .38 revolver, or if you still want a semi-automatic, the Beretta Cheetah in .380 with a tip up barrel.
The 86FS Cheetah is a semi-automatic that you do not have to rack the slide to chamber the weapon. Like the Beretta Jetfire, Tomcat, and Bobcat, the 86FS model of the Cheetah has a tip up barrel. You just flip a little lever and the breach of the barrel tips up. You can then just drop a cartridge in, push the barrel down, and you are ready to go. I have recommended this quality pistol to several women who had trouble operating a semi-automatic slide. From the Beretta web site:
86 FS Cheetah._
This is the only .380 pistol on the market that offers a convenient tip-up barrel. This unique Beretta feature permits easy, direct chamber loading and unloading without operating the slide.The fixed barrel of the Model 86FS Cheetah is attached directly to the frame and ensures outstanding accuracy. The matte black finish is embellished with the distinctive gold trigger and walnut grips._
If the MK9 does not work out, consider a Lady S&W .38 revolver, a Ruger SP101 .38 revolver, or if you still want a semi-automatic, the Beretta Cheetah in .380 with a tip up barrel.
The 86FS Cheetah is a semi-automatic that you do not have to rack the slide to chamber the weapon. Like the Beretta Jetfire, Tomcat, and Bobcat, the 86FS model of the Cheetah has a tip up barrel. You just flip a little lever and the breach of the barrel tips up. You can then just drop a cartridge in, push the barrel down, and you are ready to go. I have recommended this quality pistol to several women who had trouble operating a semi-automatic slide. From the Beretta web site:
86 FS Cheetah._
This is the only .380 pistol on the market that offers a convenient tip-up barrel. This unique Beretta feature permits easy, direct chamber loading and unloading without operating the slide.The fixed barrel of the Model 86FS Cheetah is attached directly to the frame and ensures outstanding accuracy. The matte black finish is embellished with the distinctive gold trigger and walnut grips._
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Handy
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Well, it's not a unique Beretta feature, but I think Beretta is the only one who makes a .380 like that.
Cats:
I live about 1 1/2 hours from South Bend and happen to own a MK9 Elite, you are welcome to shoot mine if you like. The local range is about 10 minutes from my house. If you want to try it out, just send me an E-mail and let me know when you will be in the area.
P.S. my wife is 4'7" and has had 2 strokes and she can rack the slide with some effort. The strokes have made her left arm very weak.
I live about 1 1/2 hours from South Bend and happen to own a MK9 Elite, you are welcome to shoot mine if you like. The local range is about 10 minutes from my house. If you want to try it out, just send me an E-mail and let me know when you will be in the area.
P.S. my wife is 4'7" and has had 2 strokes and she can rack the slide with some effort. The strokes have made her left arm very weak.
My wife and daughters have slight frames, but they have learned how to rack the slide on any semi-auto.
The secret is to exert force with both hands.
Grip the slide with one hand, and as you are pulling the slide back with that hand, shove the grip away with the other hand.
Do it quickly, and let the slide snap forward when it is all the way back.
Even my 90lb. 16 year old was able to do it!
As for carry, consider the fanny pack, a concealment purse, or just a good sturdy purse with lots of pockets.
My wife has a KelTec P32 that she had me install the pocket clip on.
It clips inside the waist of her jeans and disappears.
I had a MK9 that I loved, but found it too heavy for me to carry.
(That made it a joy to shoot though.)
I now have a PM9 that I love.
In all but the tightest jeans, it carries nicely in a pocket.
Pleated slacks are even better at concealing the gun.
You will have an easier time carrying in a pocket than most of us guys do, because women generally have more of an "hourglass" shape, which helps keep your pants up.
We guys tend to be more "wineglass" shaped.
Many of us here on THR are involved in the life-long search for the "perfect" carry gun.
That is half the fun!
The secret is to exert force with both hands.
Grip the slide with one hand, and as you are pulling the slide back with that hand, shove the grip away with the other hand.
Do it quickly, and let the slide snap forward when it is all the way back.
Even my 90lb. 16 year old was able to do it!
As for carry, consider the fanny pack, a concealment purse, or just a good sturdy purse with lots of pockets.
My wife has a KelTec P32 that she had me install the pocket clip on.
It clips inside the waist of her jeans and disappears.
I had a MK9 that I loved, but found it too heavy for me to carry.
(That made it a joy to shoot though.)
I now have a PM9 that I love.
In all but the tightest jeans, it carries nicely in a pocket.
Pleated slacks are even better at concealing the gun.
You will have an easier time carrying in a pocket than most of us guys do, because women generally have more of an "hourglass" shape, which helps keep your pants up.
We guys tend to be more "wineglass" shaped.
Many of us here on THR are involved in the life-long search for the "perfect" carry gun.
That is half the fun!
"Also, remember there is an entire breed of criminals called "purse snatchers"."
I'll defiantly agree that concealing under clothing on your body is the better way... however "purse carry" can very effective, especially if done correctly. I wasn’t kidding when I talked about “purse retentionâ€. “Purse retention†also makes you a hard target for the “purse snatcherâ€.
You have to remember here, you have to find a “carry system†that works for you, because “having a gun†is one of the most important things for self-defense.
Galco makes a whole line of purses build for CCW… easy gun access, great retention, good looks, etc, etc…
There are classes out there that teach ladies how to carry a purse to ovoid â€snatchingâ€.
I'll defiantly agree that concealing under clothing on your body is the better way... however "purse carry" can very effective, especially if done correctly. I wasn’t kidding when I talked about “purse retentionâ€. “Purse retention†also makes you a hard target for the “purse snatcherâ€.
You have to remember here, you have to find a “carry system†that works for you, because “having a gun†is one of the most important things for self-defense.
Galco makes a whole line of purses build for CCW… easy gun access, great retention, good looks, etc, etc…
There are classes out there that teach ladies how to carry a purse to ovoid â€snatchingâ€.
My wife is about 105 lbs. Not much upper body strength. She can retract the slide on a K9, but even after I put a Lady K9 spring in it, she can't lock it open to save her life.
Actually, now that I think about it, I suspect part of the problem is finger length. It's easy for me to reach the slide stop with my right thumb while the gun is in my right hand. I can easily push up on the slide stop with my right thumb. She can't. If she pivots her right hand around enough so that she can push up on the slide stop with her right thumb, then the backstrap is pushing against her fingers, not her palm, which is much weaker.
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I want to thank you guys for all your advice. I now have a much better idea of what to look for. My plan is to do some more research at Mesquite.
Novcon: I expect to be going home in 6 weeks or so. I'll shoot you an email when I do.
Novcon: I expect to be going home in 6 weeks or so. I'll shoot you an email when I do.
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