IMTHDUKE
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Anyone own a Kahr MK9....? What is the opinions and experience of those who own this pistol? It of course, is a ccw 9mm pistol at 5.3 x 4 x .9 with a 3 in barrel. Trying to find the Elite model.
Kahr MK9....thumbs up or down?
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denfoote
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I got mine sitting right beside me!!!
It's an MK9 Elite 98 that I've had for years!!!
Big thumbs up!!
Check gunbroker!!
It's an MK9 Elite 98 that I've had for years!!!
Big thumbs up!!
Check gunbroker!!
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IMTHDUKE
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Thanks.....none on GB right now.
bottom shelf
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I like the MK9. CCd one for a year, during which time Crimson Trace came out with the grip for it. But alas, the grip is no longer on it. It's on the MK40 that I carry now. The little bit of extra weight over the polymer helps at the range, and I've never noticed the weight to be a problem when carried IWB. A definite thumbs up on the MK9 AND the MK40.
Vonderek
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It's a great gun...I've had one since the first year it came out. Had a problem with a cracked slide early on but customer service was great and sent out a new slide and recoil spring assembly right away. Have not had any problems since. Eats anything and +P recoil is negligible in the little gun. Also is incredibly accurate for such a short barrel and sight plane. One caveat--in my opinion it is still a belt gun. I have tried a number of pocket holsters but unless you wear pants with super baggy pockets it can be difficult to draw due to the shape of the back of the gun. I have gone back to J-frames for pocket carry and don't use the Kahr much anymore but I still love the gun and would never part with it.
I am sorry. Thumbs down for me. My best friend and I both bought a PM9 each. We both had nothing but feeding problems with this damn thing. We both shot ours over 500+rnd and multiple different types of ammo and it never was 100%. If i went to the range and shot 10 mag fulls, i would have 1-2 FTFs. That is unacceptable for a self defense weapon.
To me 98% is not good enough for a CCW/defense gun. I know that when i pull the trigger on my Sig/HK/Walther it goes bang 100% of the times. Both of us ended up selling our. It was replaced by a Walther PPS which has been 100% after 1000+ rnds so far.
To me 98% is not good enough for a CCW/defense gun. I know that when i pull the trigger on my Sig/HK/Walther it goes bang 100% of the times. Both of us ended up selling our. It was replaced by a Walther PPS which has been 100% after 1000+ rnds so far.
IdahoLT1
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2 thumbs up. Im suprised that they arent talked about more. kinda makes me feel cool though having a gun that isnt owned by everybody and their brother.
^^^well they were both from two different gun shops. And both of us gave them a good chance. I didnt feel as bad, because there are/were many threads on this forum and others about the Pm9's finicky behavior. It is a complete hit or miss with this particular gun. I have no doubt that yours has functioned well, ours didnt.
It is one of those guns that i constantly see threads about failure to feeds/extract and the reply always is "... you gotta give it 250rnds." That always makes me chuckle, because a properly designed firearm should work 100% from the first shot. I have many many handguns and the ones i have kept do not have that particular reputation.
It is one of those guns that i constantly see threads about failure to feeds/extract and the reply always is "... you gotta give it 250rnds." That always makes me chuckle, because a properly designed firearm should work 100% from the first shot. I have many many handguns and the ones i have kept do not have that particular reputation.
humm
Indiana state police 3 years ago bought 1200 glock 22, : They had major issues, glock took them all back reissued G17 to them.
Guess G22 are crappy guns to then.
I am not doubting your issues with the kahrs either, but I read allthe kahr posts and one doesn't see any more negatives about kahrs than any other gun forum. I certainly don't anyway. You seem to be reading different gun forums than I am. I read regulary the glock forum kahr site and the AR15 kahr site.just don't read what your reading.
Of all the posts so far in this thread yours is the only negative one, rest are all postive. just very strange...
Para told me that I needed 500 rounds down ragne before calling them with issues, Kahr recommends 200 rounds before calling them with issues, that they must feel rounds down range loosens everything up. Most 1911's all need range time, most owners never complain either.
Sure sorry you had issues, I sure would have wished I could have handled them to see if I could see the difference of mine over your two. There is another poster on the glock/kahr forum I think he goes by levi guy and he has over 19,000 through his PM9 and not one issue besides recoil springs etc. That is the common occurance with kahrs, yours results are not the common occurance and you can't sell me on that either.
Indiana state police 3 years ago bought 1200 glock 22, : They had major issues, glock took them all back reissued G17 to them.
Guess G22 are crappy guns to then.
I am not doubting your issues with the kahrs either, but I read allthe kahr posts and one doesn't see any more negatives about kahrs than any other gun forum. I certainly don't anyway. You seem to be reading different gun forums than I am. I read regulary the glock forum kahr site and the AR15 kahr site.just don't read what your reading.
Of all the posts so far in this thread yours is the only negative one, rest are all postive. just very strange...
Para told me that I needed 500 rounds down ragne before calling them with issues, Kahr recommends 200 rounds before calling them with issues, that they must feel rounds down range loosens everything up. Most 1911's all need range time, most owners never complain either.
Sure sorry you had issues, I sure would have wished I could have handled them to see if I could see the difference of mine over your two. There is another poster on the glock/kahr forum I think he goes by levi guy and he has over 19,000 through his PM9 and not one issue besides recoil springs etc. That is the common occurance with kahrs, yours results are not the common occurance and you can't sell me on that either.
humm
Indiana state police 3 years ago bought 1200 glock 22, : They had major issues, glock took them all back reissued G17 to them.
Guess G22 are crappy guns to then.
I am not doubting your issues with the kahrs either, but I read allthe kahr psots and one doesnn't see any more negatives about kahrs than any other gun forum. I certainly dont anyway. You seem to be reading different gun forums than I am. I read regulary the glock forum kahr site and the AR15 kahr site.just dont read what your reading.
Of all the posts so far in this thread yours is the only negative one, rest are all postive. just very strange...
Para told me that I needed 500 rounds down ragne before calling them with issues, Kahr recommends 200 rounds before calling them with issues, that they must feel rounds down range loosens everything up. Most 1911's allneed range time, most owners never complain either.
Sure sorry you had issues, I sure would have wished I could have handled them to see if I could see the difference of mine over your two. There is anothe poster on the glock/kahr forum I thinkhe goes by llevi guy and he has over 19,000 through his PM9 and not one issue besides recoil springs etc. That is the common occurance with kahrs, yours results are not the common occurance and you can't sell me on that either.
Indiana state police 3 years ago bought 1200 glock 22, : They had major issues, glock took them all back reissued G17 to them.
Guess G22 are crappy guns to then.
I am not doubting your issues with the kahrs either, but I read allthe kahr psots and one doesnn't see any more negatives about kahrs than any other gun forum. I certainly dont anyway. You seem to be reading different gun forums than I am. I read regulary the glock forum kahr site and the AR15 kahr site.just dont read what your reading.
Of all the posts so far in this thread yours is the only negative one, rest are all postive. just very strange...
Para told me that I needed 500 rounds down ragne before calling them with issues, Kahr recommends 200 rounds before calling them with issues, that they must feel rounds down range loosens everything up. Most 1911's allneed range time, most owners never complain either.
Sure sorry you had issues, I sure would have wished I could have handled them to see if I could see the difference of mine over your two. There is anothe poster on the glock/kahr forum I thinkhe goes by llevi guy and he has over 19,000 through his PM9 and not one issue besides recoil springs etc. That is the common occurance with kahrs, yours results are not the common occurance and you can't sell me on that either.
Shytheed Dumas
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Thumbs up here! I CCW'd mine for about 9 months before trading it in for a PM9 so that I could pocket carry easier. 500 rounds through my MK9 never failed me, and 100 through my PM9 have been just as good.
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we are all a minority with such good results from our kahrs, can't u guys understand that. just read all the negative posts out there,..
I have found over the years that most posters will post negatives over positives for most of the postive owners are out shooting their good guns.
I can defend my 2 kahrs that I own for they have been flawless and one I bought used even a K9. It has 4000+ rounds through it.
Now I won't keep ANY gun that don't work and i have owned some good ones to--I THOUGHT.
crap happens to all gun makers, I used the glock and Indiana state polcie as an example, certainly not to hammer glocks at all for they are the gun that everyone compares theirs to and rightfully so. There are over 3 million glocks floating around out there, damn straight some are POS guns to. just give them the benefit of the doubt and that .025% are POS glocks out of 3 million that is 7500 of bad glocks does that sound like alot, sure would scare the pee out of u if every one of those 7500 owners of POS glocks started posting now wouldn't it. Unless the 2,925.000 positive owners started to post their POSITIVE Results.
just food for thought,
smoke um it you got um..
we are all a minority with such good results from our kahrs, can't u guys understand that. just read all the negative posts out there,..
I have found over the years that most posters will post negatives over positives for most of the postive owners are out shooting their good guns.
I can defend my 2 kahrs that I own for they have been flawless and one I bought used even a K9. It has 4000+ rounds through it.
Now I won't keep ANY gun that don't work and i have owned some good ones to--I THOUGHT.
crap happens to all gun makers, I used the glock and Indiana state polcie as an example, certainly not to hammer glocks at all for they are the gun that everyone compares theirs to and rightfully so. There are over 3 million glocks floating around out there, damn straight some are POS guns to. just give them the benefit of the doubt and that .025% are POS glocks out of 3 million that is 7500 of bad glocks does that sound like alot, sure would scare the pee out of u if every one of those 7500 owners of POS glocks started posting now wouldn't it. Unless the 2,925.000 positive owners started to post their POSITIVE Results.
just food for thought,
smoke um it you got um..
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Vonderek
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Actually the OP and the title of the thread is specific to the MK9 so in spite of the problems some have had with PM9s it's a bit irrelevant in this case. I don't know of anyone who has had bad problems with the MK9 (excepting my aforementioned cracked slide that was rectified quickly).
Invisible Swordsman
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I have one and love it. I can shoot more accurately with it than some of my larger weapons. Due to the weight it's best carried on a belt, but I can and do pocket carry sometimes. It's a little heavy but not unmanageable.
I have seen many complaints about the PM9's, but very few about the MK.
I have seen many complaints about the PM9's, but very few about the MK.
Well the PM9 is not the MK9 and the metal framed Khars are widely thought to be more reliable than the Ps so I'm not really sure what a different model, the PM9, has to do with the MK9. I have a K9 that I have been carrying as of late. I would probably pickup the MK9 if I find one at a good price.
From my experience, 18.2k rounds is very rare out of a pm9. Heck, after 18,200 rounds I'd be surprised if it had any real service life left in it without risking a serious failure or broken part... My pm9 gave me nothing but trouble. FTF every other round regardless of ammo, and also it had a trigger that failed to reset for every 4 or 5 shots that actually fed properly.
Granted, as jocko mentioned, there are more P- series (polymer) kahrs being sold than the steel k or mk series pistols. I still think your chances of getting a lemon Kahr P-series is HUGE when compared to any other polymer brand out there. I should have known from all the negative reviews about the pm9 being unreliable, but I took the plunge anyways and lost half of my money after sending it to Kahr TWICE. Won't be doing that again.
That being said, I'd have much, much more faith in an all-steel Kahr, such as the mk9. The polymer models are garbage. Kahr just can't do polymer. I wouldn't hesitate to buy an mk9 though, as Kahr does do some fine machine work on their metal parts.
*edit* forgot to mention that at that time (about 3 years ago), Kahr didn't even offer to pay for shipping. I don't know if things have changed recently, but if you buy a P-series gun that doesn't work, expect to shell out additional $ for shipping costs. I own so many other brands of handguns, many of which are polymer. My ruger LCP, even being recalled, was a much more satisfying purchase. Again, stay away from the plastic Kahrs, even if you hear good reviews online. It's a 50/50 gamble if you ask me.
Maybe but is is fairly well known that the early Polymer pistols had lots of issues that no one was previously experiencing with the steel guns.
This isn't surprising considering that the owners of khar had significant back ground in metals but not plastics. Thus, it isn't shocking that they were much better at making all metal pistols than polymer framed ones, particularly at the get go.
Right or wrong I would have more faith in the all metal gun. Numbers alone may not explain more negative reviews. There are more colt ARs out there but more negative reviews of Hess, vulcan et al.
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