MoreIsLess
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How does the Kahr PM/CM 9 compare with the Glock 43 for pocket carry. I might consider selling my PM9 if the 43 can be pocket carried.
Kahr PM9 vs Glock 43
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PM9 is smaller, and in back to back testing I found it had slightly less recoil than the Glock. The Glock is about the same size as a G26 but thinner. You could pocket carry it but it's no LCP.
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jimbo555
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The pm9 is smaller than the Glock 42.
1KPerDay
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Thanks. I meant to say G26. I'll fix it.
perrytrails
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I have both. Can't go wrong either way.
The pm is lighter in recoil, but has a longer trigger reset. Very smooth trigger.
I prefer the pm for pocket carry.
The pm is lighter in recoil, but has a longer trigger reset. Very smooth trigger.
I prefer the pm for pocket carry.
The SCCY just barely fits into the front pocket of a pair of Levis jeans. The butt of the pistol shows at the top of the pocket, it is a tight fit and as you can imagine, it prints very obviously. And if someone were to put a SSCY into a holster before trying to put it into a normal jeans front pocket - it wouldn't fit.
I only carry a pocket pistol in my pocket holstered, in a holster that completely covers the trigger guard.
I never carry a pistol loose in my pocket.
Glock 43
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.39 in
Length: 6.26 in
Height: 4.25 in
Width: 1.02 in
Weight: 17.95 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Round
SCCY CPX-2
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.7 in
Height: 4.0 in (without mag extensions)
Width: 1.0 in
Weight: 15.0 oz
Capacity: 10+1 Rounds
I wonder how many people realize that the SCCY CPX-2 is smaller and lighter than the Glock 43, is about the same width, holds 10+1 rounds and only costs $220.00
Some people say they can pocket cary the G43 - but a lot of people also claim the G26 is a pocket pistol too... I personally don't think the G43 is a pocket pistol.
I only carry a pocket pistol in my pocket holstered, in a holster that completely covers the trigger guard.
I never carry a pistol loose in my pocket.
Glock 43
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.39 in
Length: 6.26 in
Height: 4.25 in
Width: 1.02 in
Weight: 17.95 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Round
SCCY CPX-2
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.7 in
Height: 4.0 in (without mag extensions)
Width: 1.0 in
Weight: 15.0 oz
Capacity: 10+1 Rounds
I wonder how many people realize that the SCCY CPX-2 is smaller and lighter than the Glock 43, is about the same width, holds 10+1 rounds and only costs $220.00
Some people say they can pocket cary the G43 - but a lot of people also claim the G26 is a pocket pistol too... I personally don't think the G43 is a pocket pistol.
I've owned the sccy, pm9, and the 43. The sccy is significantly thicker through the frame than the other two.
The pm9 is slightly more pocketable, but do you want to roll the dice on getting a good one? I did and got hosed with an unreliable pos that took two trips back to the factory before I gave up on it.
With the options you gave I'd go 43 every single time.
The pm9 is slightly more pocketable, but do you want to roll the dice on getting a good one? I did and got hosed with an unreliable pos that took two trips back to the factory before I gave up on it.
With the options you gave I'd go 43 every single time.
Cleburne
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Bought the wife a G43 a few weeks back and I can say it will fit into my front pants pocket with no problem.
You'll have to go to a gun store wearing whatever pants you normally wear, and actually try the G43 in your pocket. People have different subjective views of what a pocket pistol is, and what pocket carry is.
In my opinion, if the pistol won't fit in your pocket when it is is in a holster - its not a pocket pistol.
The SCCY just barely fits into the front pocket of a pair of my standard, off-the-shelf Levis 501 jeans. The butt of the pistol shows at the top of the pocket, it is a tight fit and as you can imagine, it prints very obviously. And if someone were to put a SSCY into a holster before trying to put it into a normal jeans front pocket - it wouldn't fit.
I've never put a Glock 43 in my pocket but the Glock 43 is a taller pistol than the SCCY, has a greater overall length and is about the same width, so using my experience with the SCCY, I don't think the G43 is really a pocket pistol.
Also, just because you can stuff a pistol into a pocket doesn't make it a pocket pistol.
I only carry a pocket pistol in my pocket holstered, in a holster that completely covers the trigger guard. I never carry a pistol loose in my pocket.
With the pistol in a holster, in your pocket, can you deploy the pistol? If you have to wiggle and pry the pistol out of your pocket- if you can't do a smooth draw, then the pistol isn't a pocket pistol in my opinion - but other people have differing opinions obviously.
The other consideration is how comfortable or uncomfortable is the pistol when you're getting in and out of cars, sitting down, moving around.
I sometimes pocket carry a Kahr CM9 and I think anything bigger in normal jeans pockets would be uncomfortable. At some point it just makes more sense to carry IWB because you have a pistol that is so big in the pocket that it is both uncomfortable and difficult to deploy.
In my opinion, if the pistol won't fit in your pocket when it is is in a holster - its not a pocket pistol.
The SCCY just barely fits into the front pocket of a pair of my standard, off-the-shelf Levis 501 jeans. The butt of the pistol shows at the top of the pocket, it is a tight fit and as you can imagine, it prints very obviously. And if someone were to put a SSCY into a holster before trying to put it into a normal jeans front pocket - it wouldn't fit.
I've never put a Glock 43 in my pocket but the Glock 43 is a taller pistol than the SCCY, has a greater overall length and is about the same width, so using my experience with the SCCY, I don't think the G43 is really a pocket pistol.
Also, just because you can stuff a pistol into a pocket doesn't make it a pocket pistol.
I only carry a pocket pistol in my pocket holstered, in a holster that completely covers the trigger guard. I never carry a pistol loose in my pocket.
With the pistol in a holster, in your pocket, can you deploy the pistol? If you have to wiggle and pry the pistol out of your pocket- if you can't do a smooth draw, then the pistol isn't a pocket pistol in my opinion - but other people have differing opinions obviously.
The other consideration is how comfortable or uncomfortable is the pistol when you're getting in and out of cars, sitting down, moving around.
I sometimes pocket carry a Kahr CM9 and I think anything bigger in normal jeans pockets would be uncomfortable. At some point it just makes more sense to carry IWB because you have a pistol that is so big in the pocket that it is both uncomfortable and difficult to deploy.
Snejdarek
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Is that just your personal experience? I have CM9 for over a year now and it has been nothing but perfect.
Also local gun magazine had nothing but praise for it in an article they ran not so long ago.
silicosys4
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The PM's and CM's are not known as being the most reliable pistols out of the box.
I had three, and all three were lemons.
That said, if the OP has a PM that is reliable, I'd prefer that over the glock for pocket carry. It is a pretty darn small gun.
If I were picking one or the other without owning either, I wouldn't even consider buying another Kahr polymer pistol, had three POS Kahr's and one dead nuts reliable glock, so Glock it would be for me.
Jlr2267
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I've actually had both in my pocket (not at the same time) and the cm9 is much easier to pocket for me. I would not feel comfortable with the Glock in my pocket because it printed badly. The cm9 prints a little but I can live with it.
Had a PM9. It did not perform as expected when called upon to do so. Subsequent searching yielded many others with similar disappointing experiences. I will not own the brand again, notwithstanding significant changes.
Loved the finish, the price, and the sights, but the the disappointment of having a pistol that was far outside of reliable and didn't appear to be a major exception based on others' experience was an instant deal breaker.
Loved the finish, the price, and the sights, but the the disappointment of having a pistol that was far outside of reliable and didn't appear to be a major exception based on others' experience was an instant deal breaker.
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both are excellent.
for pocket carry i would lean toward PM9
IMO one of the biggest differences is the length of pull and trigger type. i happen to like both trigger mechanisms, but with the kahr you will have a short LOP with a long trigger, thus for some shooters it feels like it breaks way to far back. also the kahr's reset is all the way out so shooter must practice completely letting off trigger.
i happen to think the kahr trigger mechanism is VERY safe in terms of operating under stress, but some folks shoot a kahr and say "no way" which is too bad.
the glock 43 is well...a glock....can't really go wrong there!
for pocket holsters I like the desantis nemesis but there are many good options other than this one. for IWB on a G43 I absolutely love the multiholster elite system, although any of the hybrid holsters (crossbreed, etc) are great too.
for pocket carry i would lean toward PM9
IMO one of the biggest differences is the length of pull and trigger type. i happen to like both trigger mechanisms, but with the kahr you will have a short LOP with a long trigger, thus for some shooters it feels like it breaks way to far back. also the kahr's reset is all the way out so shooter must practice completely letting off trigger.
i happen to think the kahr trigger mechanism is VERY safe in terms of operating under stress, but some folks shoot a kahr and say "no way" which is too bad.
the glock 43 is well...a glock....can't really go wrong there!
for pocket holsters I like the desantis nemesis but there are many good options other than this one. for IWB on a G43 I absolutely love the multiholster elite system, although any of the hybrid holsters (crossbreed, etc) are great too.
FireInCairo
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The PM9 is more pocket friendly because of the height and length. The only 9mm offerings I can think of that match the PM9's diminutive stature are the Beretta Nano and the Rohrbar, in which case the Nano is the obvious choice.
I've never had my CM9 fail to feed, go into battery, fire or eject. My review of my CM9 is here:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=754205&highlight=cm9
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=754205&highlight=cm9
leadchucker
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Here's another less than happy former Kahr owner. Prone to fail to feed, go into battery, etc. It was ammo sensitive, but no matter. It's something I can't abide in a weapon I may have to trust my life to.
Go with the Glock!
Go with the Glock!
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