Kansas Legislature CCW hearing today, 3 Mar 06

[rcellis]

Just thought you should know - Kansas is conducting a hearing today, Thursday 2 March, on the Kansas CCW law. Enough votes in the State House and Senate to pass - perhaps not quite enough votes to override the Governor's likely veto. (She vetoed similiar legislation last year). Some things are different this year: she's up for re-election, several of her fellow Democrats have initially voted for the law and there are a few more known-pro-gun legislators this year than last.

I am told that the Kansas CCW law is similiar to the Texas law.

Clint

(Edit changed Thursday 3 to Thursday 2)

 

[texascarl]

Ad astra per aspera plus Sebelius

"To the stars thru difficulties plus Sebelius"

 

[Stickjockey]

Go Kansas!

(Thursday is the second, by the way. )

 

[Thylacine]

We can only hope. I just wish we would elect a gun friendly Governor.

 

[AJ Dual]

Learn from Wisconsin...

What's your vote count in the House and the Senate?

What's your needed 2/3rds number for each house?

You'd better be over that 2/3rds by a decent margin, or your Democrat governor will split one or two off of the herd by promising a good state job, or passage of some pet piece of legislation. That's what's happened to our CCW bill twice in Wisconsin over the past three years.

The only way we're going to fix it is in the elections. We need to get rid of our governor, and maintain our pro-gun majority hold on both houses.

In fact, you could assume some of your Democrat pro-CCW votes in either house may well only be voting for it knowing the "fix is in", and that it won't be overriden, so they can appear pro-gun to their constituency with no real worries it will pass.

WI is pulling for you though. It'll be all the better for us if another state goes shal-issue when our CCW bill comes back up in the fall of 2007.

 

[Standing Wolf]

I hope Kansans do the right thing, which is to say: pass CCW and shall issue, and get rid of that sorry excuse for a governor.

 

[Patricia Stoneking]

Another advocate sent this to me today:

"We need a little "icing on the cake" in regard to us pro-CCW people trying to influence Gov. Sebelius. For just one example I would like to suggest the following. Pool our money and place a small (or even a large) billboard or pony-panes somewhere prominent in Topeka. Have a picture of an attractive young woman (my 23 year old daughter has volunteered) maybe/maybe not have her holding her handgun. Maybe/maybe not have her holding her 3 year old son. But definitely have a large statement saying something like "Muggers/rapists don't want this gun savvy woman carrying her handgun; and neither does Gov. Sebelius"
In my humble opinion I feel that something like this just might get the attention of Gov. Sebelius or her staff, and the controversy it might generate, to the point that they would not be quite so eager for Sebeilus to veto the CCW bill. Please let me know what you think as I would be willing to contribute $25.00 towards the cost of a project like this."

I sent it out to my network and have had overwhelming response to do it and pledges of money to get it done. General concensus is a picture without a gun. Anyone in?

 

[DKSuddeth]

the only problem I foresee with that is getting a billboard owner to want to be part of that controversy, because you just KNOW that the media will hound the governer who will hound anyone she can about the nastiness and innappropriateness of such a suggestion that she would be siding with an evil rapist when all she's trying to do is make sure that 3 year old isn't shot accidentally with that mothers gun.

god i hate politicians.

 

[Stickjockey]

Courtesy of Oleg Volk.

 

[RaetherEnt]

Patricia, count me in! Heck, my wife and I will donate for the both of us! It would be VERY nice if we could find a pro-gun billboard owner, but...this would have to go up VERY quickly will it not?

PS...I picked up my petitions today, have five or six sheets full. Not as many as I would have liked, but better than none!

 

[Patricia Stoneking]

It would take too long to produce the billboard and the cost is $5000 per month with minimum 3 month run. No way to do it. However, it was suggested to me, if she veto's this bill, we have time to produce and raise the money and we can make an effort to make sure she is not re-elected! I have 1,033 signatures on petitions actually in my hands as of today. I'm picking up more the rest of this week and then I'll send to the Governor. I'm told that several sources sent theirs in direct so she should have some on her desk already. I just don't have a count on those. I've been told that politicians know that one opinion actually represents the opinions of at least 10 or 12 others. Hope that's true!

 

[Patricia Stoneking]

I love the ad! Statistics show that one in six American women have been sexually assaulted. That's pretty scary I think! I've had a lot of female students who came to class because they were the victim of a violent crime such as stalking, domestic violence, rape, carjacking, all kinds of stories. Seems to me that any one incident is one too many.

 

[Steve 48]

Kansas CCW

I just love the statement Governor Sebellius used several years ago to veto the legislation, " every law enforcement officer will now have to realize that every time they stop someone, they may be armed". Well, I think they teach that to you at the Law Enforcement academy, at least when I went through there 35 years ago. I was a security officer at Larned State Hospital and in order for you to carry a firearm there, and you needed to be Pawnee County sherriff's deputy. I got out of it as soon as I could and got into a different line of work. I guess Sebelius doesn't think law abiding citizens such as judges, county attorney's, court service workers, corrections officers, probabtion officers etc.. should be licensed to carry a weapon. This Governor needs to go and elect a pro-gun Governor. Steve 48

 

[texascarl]

http://www.wibw.com/news/headlines/2431551.html

Bill allowing concealed guns wins House panel's backing
AP


A bill allowing Kansans to carry concealed guns receives a House committee's endorsement after a bit of rewriting.

The panel Wednesday added libraries, churches and temples to the
list of places off-limits to hidden firearms. As passed by the Senate last month, the list included courthouses, jails, prisons and mental health centers.

Governor Sebelius had vetoed a concealed-carry bill two years
ago.

Proponents hope that expanding the number of places where hidden
guns would be banned will help gain enough votes to override a
possible veto this year.

Forty-six states already allow at least some of their residents to carry concealed weapons.

 

[Steve 48]

Sebellius

I heard on channel 3 in Wichita this morning that Sebellius was planning to veto the bill. She is a real winner!! She doesn't even give the legislature a chance to pass the bill and amend it before she makes up her mind. We need to have an aggressive grass roots effort to get out the vote and get rid of her next fall. Sebelius is worse than Graves was. We need a progun, pro CCW governor in the state of Kansas or everyone will start leaving the state. I am seroiusly considering it. Steve 48

 

[Zundfolge]

We need a progun, pro CCW governor in the state of Kansas or everyone will start leaving the state. I am seroiusly considering it.

I did my time ... from August 1969 to August 2002.

There's plenty of room for Pro-Gun Kansans out here in the Rockys (and its prettier here too).

 

[RaetherEnt]

My wife and I have been planning on putting our house in Shawnee on the market and moving further west on K10 in the near future. However, if the almighty guvner (sic) vetoes this bill AGAIN...I'm heading North into Missouri FOR SURE!

 

[DKSuddeth]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/14050689.htm

Rep. Judy Loganbill, D-Wichita, said she was offended at the idea of allowing someone to carry a gun into a church.
"To me, that's just so blatantly offensive, I can't see straight," she said.

What a dumbass!! I bet you'd see pretty damn straight if THIS!!! happened in YOUR church!!!

Eight dead in Texas church shooting—the latest eruption of social tensions in America
Just before 7 p.m. on Wednesday evening Larry Ashbrook walked into the Wedgwood Baptist Church in a middle-class neighborhood on the southwestern edge of Fort Worth, Texas and began shooting. He unloaded three magazines of bullets from a nine-millimeter semi-automatic handgun before turning the weapon on himself.

Three teenagers and three adults were killed at the church and a fourth teenager died later at the hospital. Seven others were being treated at area hospitals.

 

[CasualShooter]

We need a progun, pro CCW governor in the state of Kansas or everyone will start leaving the state. I am seroiusly considering it. Steve 48

I wasn't going to bring this up; but, I have been considering this, as well.

Other than this issue, my wife and I generally like it here in Topeka; but I don't plan to wait another 5-10 years for the privilege to CCW in Kansas. I lobbied for it for several years, while living in Missouri, before accepting employment in Topeka and moving to Kansas. :banghead:

I will likely retire next year. If it looks like it may be another 4-5 years before Kansas joins today's world, I'll probably move back to Missouri. If the current bill doesn't become law this year; then, the results of the November elections will probably decide it for my wife and me.

If this doesn't become law this year and Governor Sebellius wins again, we're gone unless there are enough gains in the House and Senate to override a veto next year.

So far, I haven't heard of a viable conservative republican candidate planning to run against Governor Sebellius next november and the Primary Elections are'nt that far off. The trouble with Kansas is that the Left Wing of the Republican Party would rather see a Democrat in office than a Conservative Republican. Our previous Republican Governor Graves made that pretty clear.

Did somebody say we can defeat Sebellius in November? SHOW ME!