Keep a shell chambered in your HD shotgun?

Keep one in the chamber?

  • Yes

    Votes: 110 31.6%
  • No

    Votes: 238 68.4%

  • Total voters
    348
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Weezy

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Pros:
  • +1 capacity
  • Ready for immediate use
  • Silent

Cons:
  • Easier to ND?
  • Unable to "shuck-shuck" and scare off intruder / feel bad ass.
 
More Cons:
1. Able to blow a firefighter off the roof if your house catches on fire.

2. Makes a closed-end hole for spider nests.

3. It's a genuinely bad idea.

rcmodel
 
I don't like to rely on the mechanical safety if i don't have too and what rcmodel said.
 
Oh, as an aside, how do you personally keep your HD shotgun in "ready mode." (Condition, location, etc.)

As another aside: I bought a 500 Persuader :)
 
I disagree that it's a bad idea. With that said I voted no because I store my Mossy in a Loc Box (see below) which requires the chamber to be open.

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I used to keep the chamber empty but realized that in a panic situation I don't want to have to "shuck-shuck" to get it ready. I'm not terribly worried about capacity in a home defense situation, but I carry all my pistols with one in the chamber, no reason not to in my shotgun.
 
I keep the chamber empty, hoping that the sound of chambering a round will end the confrontation.

Maybe it will, maybe it won't; but I tried...
 
unchanmbered for several reasons (most mentioned) I know that the "shuck shuck" sound is one of the most intimidating sounds around and would rather not shoot someone if it can be avaoided by a simple noise.
 
racking a round will usually not do anything except give you and your position away....that sound deterrent is hollyweird.....unless you have little kids to worry about, keeping it ready to go should not be problem....
 
I rotate my HD weapons periodically. One of which is a Browning gold 10 ga. If it's out, it's loaded. I store it barrel down, butt up, with the safety on.
 
I have no kids around now,and have a Mossberg,Rem 870 and several Saiga's shotguns (various guages) all loaed with 'one in the chamber' and strategically placed about the home (hidden).

I like having the advantage of 'that extra few seconds' if I so need to have them.
 
Remington 870 pump:

Cruiser ready: magazine charged, chamber empty.

Just hit the slide release, rack the slide, and you're good to go.
 
no I do not keep one in the chamber. practice and chambering when picking up the gun makes it second nature
 
I'm with Shawn: cruiser ready.

Notably, I do not have a variety of weapons concealed about my premises. Just the 870. I think that's the right balance between paranoia and preparation for my situation.
 
I agree with Jeff.

If my combat shotgun had multiple redundant safeties, so it could experience a failure and still have more than one reason why it could not fire, them maybe I would trust it to sit there with a live round in the chamber.

Sadly, that's not the case.

I keep mine "Cruiser Ready".

I just feel better knowing it's not going to fall over and discharge when it hits the floor.

Don't worry. If I need to use it, I will manage to get a round in the chamber.
 
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i´m with the "Shuck-Shink" sound - as a deterrent.
Had that once, almost peed my pants.
...an 870 makes such a lovely "shink"


@ guntotinguy

If you have a Mossy, an 870 AND several Saigas hidden around the house,
i think it would be time to install a L/44
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on your house.

Keep a sabot chambered :D
 
OK guys; lets get real here. There is a reason that the term "cruiser ready" exists. It exists because the people who use shotguns for a living know the possibilities of a chambered SG round. Most shotguns today have a safety that locks the trigger, and the trigger only. It does not lock the firing pin or hammer. Thus the same problem that existed with many handguns of yesteryear(and some today), that of firing when dropped or shocked in some manner existed. The same problem exists with most all shotguns of today, and probably the future.
The only time I feel it is safe to carry a SG with the chamber loaded is when ready to fire, as in weapon in hand(s) and one is in danger. Like in Iraq, I suspect that the troopers carrying SGs around on patrol are chamber loaded, safety on. Makes sense to me. However when they are back in a cantonment area, their shotguns like their rifles are chamber empty.
I am not trying to tell anyone how to keep their SD weapons, but just the act of picking up a chamber loaded shotgun can present the possibility of knocking the weapon around, add in the tension and unpredictibility of a pending confrontation by someone who dosen't do it every day, and the potential for a AD goes way up. And an AD with a shotgun is very bad medicine indeed.
As for the "ker chunk" potential, well I have never observed it to have much effect on someone dumb enough to put themselves on the business end of a HD scenario. They are not home invaders because they are smart(or sober), you know. As for giving away your position, that may be a consideration in a real tactical situation(sneaking up on BG at night in the bush), but in a HD scenario I think that too much is made of the "tacticalness" of that situation. Remember you are DEFENDING which almost by definition means a static holding situation while the police are arriving. I am not saying that you should retreat from a BG in your home, but after almost a half century of carrying weapons professionally, I am not sure I want to be doing any room clearing by myself, even if I know the terrain like the back of my hand. A nice static defensive posture will insure you survive the confrontation, AND the legal aftermath.
Exceptions? There are always exceptions. I keep my Winchester 97 chamber loaded and hammer down, as with hammered doubles. Hammerless doubles are kept chamber empty with 2 rounds rubberbanded to the barrel just ahead of the receiver, and a butt cuff with 5-6 more.
 
No kids in the house. Chamber loaded, safety engaged, barrel down resting concealed in bedroom corner.

Yes, no drop safety, but it's not going to fall or be dropped safely resting in the corner and handled only in emergency (eg self defense). All I have to do is pick up, aim, disengage safety and fire. That takes about 2 seconds and does not prematurely give away my position (noise discipline).

If you have to rack the slide, it takes away valuable time AND definately gives away your position, and there is always a small chance that the weapon will fail to feed and you'd be screwed doing clearing procedures.

And if it is already loaded, you can still rack the slide if the situation warrants or adds benefit: If the capacity is 4+1 or 4+0, and you keep it at 4+1 and you feel that racking the slide for the scary sound will benefit the situation, you are in no worse a position from 4+1-1 = 4 or 4+0 to 3+1 = 4.

If I had kids in the house, I would store my guns differently and teach them gun safety when they are mature enough.
 
Cruiser ready: magazine charged, chamber empty.

Just hit the slide release, rack the slide, and you're good to go.
My understanding of "cruiser ready" is that the hammer is down and there is no need to hit the slide release.

A round in the chamber makes sense if you have the gun in your hands but not for storage for all the reasons listed above. If I'm facing an intruder I WANT the guy to depart in haste as opposed to having to shoot. If a verbal warning and the sound of a pump gun achieves that then all the better.

But if I have no other alternative the time lag between shuck-shuck and BOOM can be only a fraction of a second.
 
Empty chamber, mag loaded one round down, safety on. Still takes less than a second to make loud.
 
1. Able to blow a firefighter off the roof if your house catches on fire.

2. Makes a closed-end hole for spider nests.

3. It's a genuinely bad idea.

I find that....bizarre to say the least. #1 wouldn't happen in 1 out of 1,000,000 fire rescues, if that. #2 - who cares - not enough of a bore obstruction to matter - would just blow right out. #3 - says who? Of course you leave a round in the chamber, just the same as you do with a carry pistol. Silly not to, anyway, if you know and follow the 4 rules. And if you don't, you shouldn't even own a gun.
 
I keep mine with an empty chamber. I'm not worried about capacity, as I have a Mossberg 500 Persuader and I can put 7 in the tube. If it doesn't go down with 7 rounds of 12 gauge, I don't think one more is going to help.

Also, the shotgun is my backup weapon, that I keep downstairs just in case I don't have a pistol out or nearby (which is usually only when I am getting ready for work at 4 AM, since I can't carry at work or even leave it in the car).

Another reason is, I leave it with the safety off. The safety is very stiff, and I don't find it to be very instinctive. I don't want a gun with a loaded chamber with the safety off.

I keep it in the coat closet, behind the coats (I have it hanging on the wall behind them). My only kid is 10 months old, and is still a few feet away from where it hangs. I'll be rethinking where it stays soon, though.
 
I answered "no" based on how I keep my 870. Regarding my Spartan coach gun, however, I do keep two shells in the chambers, action closed, hammers down (uncocked rebounding hammers). This requires breaking open and closing the action to cock the shotgun.
 
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