Kids and gun safety

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ok while surfing I ran across this site:

http://www.kidsandguns.org/

From looking around I'm wondering if this is one of those "fake gun" sites run by anti's.

Now I don't have any kids, but if I did I would teach them when they are old enough how to handle firearms. With empyish on how to unload them.

My stepfather and both of my uncles had loaded guns stashed around and never had any problem with me when I was going up.

-Bill
 
Since I grew up in a house full with loaded guns I'm wondering where all these "kids getting hurt by AD/ND" are coming from. Are parents not teaching kids gun safety nowdays?

-Bill
 
Since two of the links are Guns have Unique Lure for Young Boys, and guns in the home increase danger, I think we can say this is anti site ;). As for your question about gun safety and teaching kids, no a lot of parents are not teaching their kids.

In fact they teach their kids that guns are forbidden objects and don't even think about them. This lets kids know everything they need to know about guns come from Hollywood and TV :banghead: . So of course when a 17 year old kid (one of the links :mad: ) finds a gun, he shoots himself with it :fire: .

At 17, I was responsible for the firearms in the house, as my mom had no interest, and my father wasn’t capable of doing it. Education is definitely they key element, but the school systems and parents in most of these areas don’t teach their kids basic gun safety. Those of us who grew up in a pro gun house or around pro gun houses are lucky that we got that education.
 
They claim to be a coalition from "both sides." Then again, they were founded Ted Kennedy's wife. Both tidbits from: http://www.kidsandguns.org/entryhall/pressrelease.asp

Founding organizations include:

American Academy of Pediatrics
Child Welfare League of America
National Crime Prevention Council
National SAFE KIDS Campaign
National Shooting Sports Foundation
Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute, Inc.
Stop Handgun Violence
The U.S. Conference of Mayors
(from: http://www.kidsandguns.org/familyroom/coalition/)
 
I guess its just the sorry state of things in this country these days. Political correctness is more dangerous to the American people than all the guns in the country. Many of those same guns were here long before PC and were never a problem then and other than propaganda, nothing has changed. I think whats happening here is the old "frog in the pot" syndrome. By manipulating education away from proper safety and use to fear, in the next couple of generations, the job will be done. Just in my time, we have gone from rifle clubs in all the schools, with access and training for all, even those who had no guns in the house, to no guns permitted in the schools or even near them and a constant barrage of anti-gun drivel aimed at molding our young peoples ideas towards the goal. I'm a firm believer that if you have guns in your house, your kids firearms education begins when they are born. Not 10 or 12, not even 6, from day one. If this is done, and they are allowed access any time they want, with your supervision and teaching, you will have a kid that is pretty much gun proof. You dont wait until they are 10 to tell them the knife is sharp or the stove top is hot do you? Its no different than teaching them to swim, or not play in the road, or any other dangerous activity. Kids are learning sponges when they are young, they are not dummies and learn quickly. If you teach them early, and constantly reinforce it, you will have no troubles. The goal here is total disarmament. If that isnt obvious to you by now, then what is obvious is, the plan is working.
 
Started out young with mine, and worked great. Eddie Eagle is a good progam, and should be in all schools. Hunter Safety classes are good, and have seen a lot of "non-hunters" there, just to learn more, and I applaud that.
 
My five year old handles almost all of my guns, around twice a day. He knows the four rules of safe gun handling, and knows the Eddie Eagle rules for if you find a gun. He's VERY muzzle aware, keeps his finger off the trigger all the time, unless he's dry firing. :)

I've promised him that there will be no mystery surrounding guns, and that he can handle them any time he wants to, so long as I'm there. I didn't know that he would want to be doing it two or three times a day though. :cool:
 
i think the parents try and keep it a secret that they have guns at all. i was at school yesterday and i was terlling my friend about my new stock and this girl says "i've never even seen a real gun" i was surprised and then another girl says "my grandpa has 7 loaded guns in his dresser and my sister found out and almost cryed because she knew there were guns in our house". ever since i can remember my dad told me about every gun in the house and tought me about it. i was never affraid of them.
 
There is a general anti-slant, but look in the forums. The pro-gun side is being well represented. It would be good to have a presence there to show that gun owners aren't a bunch of yahoos.
 
i think the parents try and keep it a secret that they have guns at all. i was at school yesterday and i was terlling my friend about my new stock and this girl says "i've never even seen a real gun" i was surprised and then another girl says "my grandpa has 7 loaded guns in his dresser and my sister found out and almost cryed because she knew there were guns in our house". ever since i can remember my dad told me about every gun in the house and tought me about it. i was never affraid of them.
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If these parents lived by a lake or pond would they tell thier kids not to go near it or teach them to swim?

I'm sorry but I can't see someone crying because there grandparents own guns.

-Bill
 
There is a general anti-slant, but look in the forums. The pro-gun side is being well represented.
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They are Anti. The only reference in any of the information about the NRA, the nation's premier firearm education organization, is a report claiming the NRA's Eddie the Eagle program is ineffective.
Pediatrics (Journal of AAP) 113: 70-77, 1/1/2004

Teaching Kids to Chant Slogans is Not Enough

In the study, "An Evaluation of Two Procedures for Training Skills to Prevent Gun Play in Children," researchers evaluated two methods of teaching children about gun safety. The effectiveness of the NRA's Eddie Eagle GunSafe Program and a behavioral skills training program were evaluated. The study concluded that the NRA's method was not sufficient because while the children were able to remember the verbal lessons, they were not able to carry the lessons into real life situations.
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Any time you see the words Common Sense on a web site discussing guns, you can be pretty sure its an anti front.

HCI, Brady, VPC ... they all use the "Common Sense Gun Control" doubletalk.

Since reality and the facts don't back up their position, they have to convince you to take their word without researching it or thinking about it because its just "Common Sense". :rolleyes:
 
Kids and guns

I had a nice day at the range today with my 4 youngest; 5 year old boy 7 year old girl, 8 and 10 year old boys. They all had a blast and not a single drop of blood was shed!
 
Standing Wolf: Ditto my friend, ditto.

I was raised around guns. My fathers feelings were like this: If you are old/responsible enough to babysit, then you are old/responsible enough to have access to a loaded firearm. I could write another 2 pages of examples but you get the idea.

BTW: Here in Utah we've had the highest number of skiing fatalities since something like 1956. It's been all over the news. Where's the public outcry to ban this terrible monster?? I think we ought to ban skiing in the name of safety. :evil: After all no one "needs" to ski right? Come on now, it's for the children dontcha' know.
 
I was raised around guns. My fathers feelings were like this: If you are old/responsible enough to babysit, then you are old/responsible enough to have access to a loaded firearm. I could write another 2 pages of examples but you get the idea.
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When I was in my ealry teens a friend's sister started babysitting and thier father had the same idea.

-Bill
 
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