Kimber 1911 in 9mm

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For my next project I purchased a 38 super barrel to try out on the ATI 9mm. I've been reading up on it and it's a good thing I reload as 38 super ammo can be expensive..... Especially right now.


I'm also looking at having the slides cut for Novak sights. Lets see if I can get similar results in accuracy as my Kimber.

CH
 
Nice KImber. I've got the same gun I picked up from GB last year. One of the 2020 Shot Show specials with a Vortex Viper mounted. I noticed in your posts you mentioned just one FTE. Also, sounds like you're using factory ammo to break the gun in. Good idea. My mistake was to push hand loads through it without plunk testing the loads. That gun does not like handloads over 1.105 OAL. Not sure if you bake your own bread but just a word to the wise if you do. Oh, and stay away from STV Scorpion 115gn. They suck! One more thing, I spoke with a rep at Kimber who told me they recommend using 124gn to break the gun in. Oh, and another one more thing.....If you're stuck on a Kimber 45, cool. If you're open to another suggestion for an outstanding alternative, might I suggest the CZ 97BD. CZ is making some terrific firearms lately and the two I recently picked up ( Shadow 2, and CZ 75B Omega) are the only guns I have that have been able to tear me away from my Sigs. Have fun with the Kimber!
 
While I have 9x23, .38 Super & .38 Special in full size 1911s - I oddly have never come across a full size that seemed a good buy at the time.

Interestingly, a Kimber is what turned me on to two aspects of 1911 ownership that I had seemed to be eschewing; 9mm and *Commander* platform.

In this Kimber 9mm, I truly could not be happier.

I would suggest anyone ever seeing one used at a price should get it if the features appeal more than Kimber current offering in the Commander style. Though, the prices seemed to have leveled immediately without a drop.

Supremely accurate, stone-axe reliable and never met a round it didn't like.

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Todd.
 
tucmox,

Thank you.

I took it out yesterday. Fired 50 rounds through it and tested out a new CMC 10 round magazine. It ran perfectly and accuracy was excellent just like on my last outing. I was able to find some Sellert and Bellot ammo at a reasonable price, so I bit the bullet.

The first time I took it out, I had to use some of my reloads (no manufacturer ammo), but they were all 124-125 loads. The 125 gr loads were coated lead at a COAL of 1.080. The 124 gr loads were RMR FMJ with a COAL of 1.120. I didn't have any problems with the COAL except for that one FTE. I'll use some more 124gr RN FMJ the next time I go out to see if I have any issues with the COAL. I don't like to have too many different types of loads as I look for loads that will function in all my semi's.

I did develop some 147gr loads which called for a COAL of 1.165, so It's good to know the COAL limits. I may try a magazine of the 147gr's to see how the function. I'll keep you posted. Still, I'm happy running the 124gr loads as they felt good. The 125gr loads felt good as well, but I want to keep my Kimber spoiled for the first year or so.

I have been looking for a Kimber 45, but I haven't found any at the same price point as the one I have. I'll keep looking for it, and hopefullly will find one eventually. Once I do, based on my experience with this Kimber, I'll definitely bite the bullet.

Regarding the CZ97B. I was eyeballing that one last year, but ended up getting the SAR K2-45 (CZ Clone). It did not disappoint. It's outstanding and the ammo capacity is greater than a 1911's. The reason for going with the SAR was the price point. It was about 200-300 cheaper. As I had stated in my OP, I tend to be a low roller.

Now that I have a few semi's, and with finally getting a higher tier 1911, I'll be looking to add some higher priced firearms to my inventory...... slowly. Still in the 1911 arena, my ATI's have been accurate and have functioned without issue. They are noticeably heavier than my Kimber. I guess one can throw the 1911 if one should run out of bullets..... LoL

Stay safe.

CH
 
While I have 9x23, .38 Super & .38 Special in full size 1911s - I oddly have never come across a full size that seemed a good buy at the time.

Interestingly, a Kimber is what turned me on to two aspects of 1911 ownership that I had seemed to be eschewing; 9mm and *Commander* platform.

In this Kimber 9mm, I truly could not be happier.

I would suggest anyone ever seeing one used at a price should get it if the features appeal more than Kimber current offering in the Commander style. Though, the prices seemed to have leveled immediately without a drop.

Supremely accurate, stone-axe reliable and never met a round it didn't like.

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Todd.
Nice Kimber. Love the colors. I did see one in the same color scheme, but is was north of 500, near the 1k range.

I love the Commander size 1911, wonder if the recoil would be felt more on the Kimber Commander LW models?

For the 38 Super, is there a difference in recoil, accuracy, etc.? I just recently purchased a 38 Super barrel for my ATI 1911 Commander. I don't compete in USPSA just IDPA, but I was thinking the relation for a 38 Super is due to class (Major/Minor).

CH
 
Nice Kimber. Love the colors. I did see one in the same color scheme, but is was north of 500, near the 1k range.

I love the Commander size 1911, wonder if the recoil would be felt more on the Kimber Commander LW models?

For the 38 Super, is there a difference in recoil, accuracy, etc.? I just recently purchased a 38 Super barrel for my ATI 1911 Commander. I don't compete in USPSA just IDPA, but I was thinking the relation for a 38 Super is due to class (Major/Minor).

CH
It really all comes down to springs matching your load range combined with your own expectations.

I have tried a heavier spring in the Kimber but the only real felt difference to me is that it is notably harder to rack the slide manually.

The .38 Super and 9x23 have been loaded with a wide range of rounds for me and while there is a noticeable difference between the softest target .38 and the hottest hunting 9x23 it seems to pretty much compare to the span I've shot from my .45 1911s. Noting that the monster 9x23 has quite a crack to it. Still no where near a hot 10mm I guess.

Todd.
 
For the 38 Super, is there a difference in recoil, accuracy, etc.? I just recently purchased a 38 Super barrel for my ATI 1911 Commander. I don't compete in USPSA just IDPA, but I was thinking the relation for a 38 Super is due to class (Major/Minor).
When I switched my Kimber LW 9mm over to .38 Super, it was basically with the intent to handload ammo and push 124-125gr bullets into the 1400+ fps range. Thought was for possible use on whitetail deer at crossbow ranges, but I decided not to. I switched to a 16lb recoil spring from the factory 12lb and it doesn't beat the gun as badly. I run an 18lb spring in it if I'm shooting max loads, which is pretty often.

The first time I shot near-max and max loads with AA#7 in .38 Super, I had to go find earplugs to wear under my ear muffs.
 
Crazy Horse

Congrats on getting the Kimber 1911 in 9mm.! I have a Colt Lightweight Commander in .38 Super with a Storm Lake 9mm. barrel. I like to get the .38 Super then pick up a 9mm. barrel as that way I don't have to change out the ejector on the gun. To me there is no real difference as far as shooting either cartridge through it and I use the same recoil spring (which is 16 lbs.), when shooting both the .38 Super and 9mm. Accuracy is on par for both rounds without the need even to get an adjustable rear sight.
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Crazy Horse

Congrats on getting the Kimber 1911 in 9mm.! I have a Colt Lightweight Commander in .38 Super with a Storm Lake 9mm. barrel. I like to get the .38 Super then pick up a 9mm. barrel as that way I don't have to change out the ejector on the gun. To me there is no real difference as far as shooting either cartridge through it and I use the same recoil spring (which is 16 lbs.), when shooting both the .38 Super and 9mm. Accuracy is on par for both rounds without the need even to get an adjustable rear sight.
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bannockburn,

THX. I'll definitely be giving the 38 super a try, but not on my Kimber just yet. I'll be trying it with my ATI Commander.

Do you know if weight makes a difference in recoil for the 1911? I went with the 38 super barrel on my ATI at this juncture because the ATI is all steel and heavier, and also because my Kimber is too new.

CH
 
Walkalong
I foolishly sold this Kimber 9MM, gold bead front sight and all. *Sigh*
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I know that feeling all to well my friend. I had a blued Colt Combat Commander in .38 Super set up to run perfectly with a Colt 9mm. barrel. Had to sell it to pay off another gun I had bought. Took me quite a few years to get around to finding another Colt in .38 Super to replace it but I finally did and I'm more than pleased with how nice it is !
 
Crazy Horse

At least for me weight has never really never been an issue when running .38 Super in an all steel Colt Combat Commander or in a lighter weight aluminum alloy frame Colt Commander. For some inexplicable reason I much prefer my .38 Super to be in a Commander size gun, rather than a full size 1911.
 
I foolishly sold this Kimber 9MM, gold bead front sight and all. *Sigh*
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I almost sold mine. The only thing saved it was that I would not budge a single dollar off MSRP and it actually got down to only a few dollars too.

I'm willing to bet that guy wished he'd popped the extra couple saw-bucks as the prices on them seem to never drop. He asked me about it at two following shows but, by then, pre-seller's-remorse had kicked in. Now I wish I had two.;)

Such is the fate of folk who believe the *reality* TV shows that try to tell them everything is negotiable.
 
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Crazy Horse

As a matter of fact some ten years ago I was going to pick up a Colt Government in .38 Super, mainly for range use and load development. Had it on layaway at a gun shop but when I went to pick it up I decided I would rather have it chambered for the .45 ACP so that's what I got instead! Like I said...it's inexplicable why I like my .38 Super to be Commander size!

The Colt Government in .45 ACP:
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I've got a little Kimber Ultra Carry 9mm 3" 1911 and the thing just shoots great. I figured 3" and 9mm might be an issue, but the thing just shoots and shoots. Looks like yours does too!

I have an Aegis Ultra in 9 and it never fails to amaze me how accurate and easy it is to shoot. I have an Ultra two tone in 45 as well and it’s a tack driver and blast to shoot as well.
 
I've got two Kimbers in 9mm. This one which is a fantastic shooter:

Kimber Stainless II 9mm
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And this one. It remains new in the box unfired condition. Ok, I'll try to keep this short but I bought it new when they first hit the market late in 2006 from a large Kimber Master Dealer in South Texas. He mentioned that Kimber sent it to him by mistake and wanted it back but he refused. He said its the first Ultra Aegis II made. I did call Kimber Customer Service a few years ago and had them date it for me. After I gave CS guy the serial number he paused then ask me to hold on the line a few minutes. He came back on and told me that it was a very interesting Kimber due to the records indicating it was the first one produced. He then ask me how I came about owning it which I related to him who and where I bought it from. He mentioned that the first run on these had the KUFA which meant K=Kimber U=Ultra frame F=9mm A=Aegis model.

Kimber Ultra Aegis II Serial Number KUFA001
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I've got two Kimbers in 9mm. This one which is a fantastic shooter:

Kimber Stainless II 9mm
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And this one. It remains new in the box unfired condition. Ok, I'll try to keep this short but I bought it new when they first hit the market late in 2006 from a large Kimber Master Dealer in South Texas. He mentioned that Kimber sent it to him by mistake and wanted it back but he refused. He said its the first Ultra Aegis II made. I did call Kimber Customer Service a few years ago and had them date it for me. After I gave CS guy the serial number he paused then ask me to hold on the line a few minutes. He came back on and told me that it was a very interesting Kimber due to the records indicating it was the first one produced. He then ask me how I came about owning it which I related to him who and where I bought it from. He mentioned that the first run on these had the KUFA which meant K=Kimber U=Ultra frame F=9mm A=Aegis model.

Kimber Ultra Aegis II Serial Number KUFA001
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Now that is super cool. Not very often there is a 001 serial number in the wild. Hold on to that one tight!
 
Congrats on the new Kimber, I still have a couple Clacky's in the safe.
 
Shocked I am;) An internet thread where people are speaking well of Kimbers??? Seriously though, I've had a few Kimbers in 38 Super and 9MM over the last 20 years or so. Contrary to most of what I've read on the internet, they were all excellent, reliable pistols. Wish I could say the same for some other manufactuer's 9MM 1911s.

FWIW, I've found the Metalform "Front Ramp" 9-rd. magazines to provide excellent reliability, no matter the 9MM 1911 pistol's manufacturer. Seems many or most 1911 9MM owners want a 10-rd. magazine though. But the 10-rd. 9MM magazines are the ones I've most often seen reported as having reliability issues...
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I've found the Metalform "Front Ramp" 9-rd. magazines to provide excellent reliability
Agreed.

Metalform and the visually identical Brownells. Well, except it's not silver. :)
 

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