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Help me decide which 9mm 1911

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Oldnoob, Oct 12, 2012.

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  1. bds
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    This is right from Sig Sauer's website - http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/1911-traditional-match-elite-stainless.aspx

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    Although I like Sig 1911, if you are going the SSE route, I would seriously consider the STI Trojan in 9mm - http://www.dawsonprecision.com/ProductDetail.jsp?LISTID=3040000-1095448367

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  2. Dudemeister

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    I assume that's what they were talking about, not just the transfer, that would be crazy for just paperwork.

    I would buy the gun I wanted, have it shipped directly to them, they would convert it (presumably with their parts), then do the FFL transfer, DROS, etc.

    My cost would be whatever I paid for the pistol and shipping if any, then $400 to Valkyrie for everything else. Nevertheless, that was still going to add up to well over a grand.
     
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    I think you are still misunderstanding.

    If you don't keep the conversion parts, their charge for converting your gun is just $50. Of course, you'll have to then add their transfer fee, DROS and taxes...but you'd have to paid that for any gun you bought from out of state
     
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    Now I'm confused.

    Are you saying that after they do the conversion and the gun transferred, I can return the conversion parts, and they'll reimburse me for them?

    That was never explained to me.
     
  5. 9mmepiphany

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    well, I guess you could keep them...some folks do...but, I'm not sure what you would use them for
     
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    I wouldn't have any need for the conversion part once I reverted the pistol to it's normal configuration, but I thought that was the whole gimmick, sell you a bunch of parts you'll never use.

    Are these parts like universal, so they can be used over and over on any gun, or are they unique to each model? If they are unique, why would the dealer want them back? The odds are they won't use them again unless someone orders the same gun

    Anyway, the guy I talked to at Valkyrie never mentioned any of this.

    Oh well... live and learn. This is good info for next time I have a hankering for some forbidden fruit.
     
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    I know the show that in their site. But I don't think they were any production out. People have been asking for a while on 1911 forum.

    Trojan looks ok, but I don't like that front grip. It didn't help for the grip and the design doesn't go with rest of gun (unlike Kimber Raptor). Consider I like front grip checkering and it usually cost $200~300 for smith job, I think I rather spend that money on Lawman 5.0.
     
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    I had a chance to shoot a STI Trojan during much of my trip to Gunsite last year.

    I was pleasantly surprised by how well it performed...I'm not a huge fan of adjustable sights on a working gun...during the week. All the sharp edges have been dressed and I think it is a great value in a mid-priced 1911. After talking to the folks at the STI booth at SHOT, I was even more impressed and the Trojan is a pistol I often recommend.

    I'd recommend a STI Trojan over any SIG 1911...especially if you're going to have to SSE it anyway.

    Sidebar: I really like the chainlink texture on the frontstrap. It is a bit softer than the Ed Brown version and I don't shoot with glove on.
    Disclaimer: I'm not a huge fan of checkering, as I've found it fragile or overly abrasive; depending on coarseness
     
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    How was the trigger on the Trojan you has shot?

    I'm just opposite of you. Not a big fan of the chain link texture. Love the 30lpi on my Sig 1911.
     
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    The trigger broke very cleanly, but with enough feel for me to prep it during muzzle flip...I was surprised for an out of the box trigger in this price range...about 4lbs (I didn't measure it)

    I started with the belief that what I was supposed to want was checkering. I like the look of 30lpi but prefer the function of 25lpi...I like 30lpi serrations on the back of the slide/rear sight/top of slide.

    My taste transitioned more toward Conamyds, Chainlink and Golfball textures. I even prefer vertical serrations (20lpi) on the frontstrap to checkering...but I really like them in an Art Deco pattern. I also prefer a shortened spur-hammer nestled in a dished out high-ride beavertail, to the burr hammer of a Commander style hammer
     
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    I'd rather have my Dan Wesson 9mm 1911 than any you mention.
    I also picked up a used Fusion 9mm Longslide here on THR for $800........be on the lookout for good used deals.

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    Thing is that you could be waiting a loooooong time for such a deal and prices may not be so good either when such a deal comes along next time - then you have to be the first "I'll take it" to get it. :mad:

    I tried to buy one of like 200 DW PM7s made for California for 2 years without success (missed the last one by like 15-20 minutes at LGS) and bought a railed Sig 1911 TacPac instead at almost half the price at $850. I have no regrets for the Sig purchase. I may use the SSE for my next 1911 purchase. :D
     
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    I've owned nearly every brand of 1911 and many in 9mm.

    I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better value than a STI Trojan 9mm. Have it hard chromed or Cerakoted.

    I also like Dan Wessons for under $2K and just bought another. A 9mm ECO.

    If you go over have a custom build. I've got a colt .38 super at Chambers Custom about to be converted into a 9mm retro fighting gun with the features I want.
     
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    Glock 17 for 9mm.

    .45ACP for a 1911, 'nuff said.

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  15. Jed Carter

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    If this is to be your first 9mm 1911 then I would get an STI Trojan or Sentry. I have an old Colt MK Series 70 9mm, loved it, then the STI Custom Shop Trojan 9mm arrived, haven't shot the Colt since. Out of the box it is the best shooting pistol I own, including a S&W PC 1911. Trigger very good, right at 3.4 lbs, good target sights and a ramped Schuemann barrel. One thing about STI 1911s, they work, and shoot very well right out of the box, I use mine in USPSA Single Stack and Steel Challenge matches. Or when I just want to impress friends and influence enemies. Any good 9mm 1911 is an amazing pistol, accurate, very low recoil. I do not think spending $850 to $1000 more on a 9mm 1911 would give me any advantage over the STI I have. As yet I have not not made any mechanical modifications, not had any problems, 2 years and over 7000 rounds later, except the grips it's still box stock.
     
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