Kimber KPD: Their version of a Glock
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twoblink
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I'll stick to my pretty looking Steyr M40 thank you.
And yes, mag disconnects are for ninnies..
The situation:
I've got 1 round left in the chamber, I think the firefight is in a lull, I eject the mag out to change to a fresh one, I get surprised, I know I have 1 more round in the chamber but the mag is out and so I can't fire it.. I die thanks to the government looking out for me.
Kimber should stick to overpriced metal guns.. This thing looks like someone beat it with an ugly stick..
And yes, mag disconnects are for ninnies..
The situation:
I've got 1 round left in the chamber, I think the firefight is in a lull, I eject the mag out to change to a fresh one, I get surprised, I know I have 1 more round in the chamber but the mag is out and so I can't fire it.. I die thanks to the government looking out for me.
Kimber should stick to overpriced metal guns.. This thing looks like someone beat it with an ugly stick..
IndianaDean
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The pic reminds me of the MP also. I held an MP at the last gun show and did not like it at all.
Autolycus
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TC-TX said:
My feelings exactly.
doublebarrel
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The M&P holds 3 more rounds in 40 caliber, and doesn't have mag disconnect(I believe)...
stellarpod
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I really don't understand the comments about the M&P and Kimber looking the same. Study the lines. Other than the fact that they're both black, both have the same vague outline of a semiauto handgun and both plastic I don't see much similarity.
Trigger guard is completely different, as is the mag release. Look at the configuration at the rear of the slide and tang. The M&P and Kimber don't even remotely resemble each other in this area. Similarly, the lines at the front of the slide and the accessory rail are completely different. Hard to tell from the photos whether the slide lock and release layout is the same, but I suspect they're different as well. Sights are altogether different as well.
I'm a Kimber fan, but I went to the range today and shot the M&P in .40S&W and all I can say is WOW! This gun is an ergonomic gem (for me at least). I'll soon have one in my collection along side my Kimbers.
stellarpod
Trigger guard is completely different, as is the mag release. Look at the configuration at the rear of the slide and tang. The M&P and Kimber don't even remotely resemble each other in this area. Similarly, the lines at the front of the slide and the accessory rail are completely different. Hard to tell from the photos whether the slide lock and release layout is the same, but I suspect they're different as well. Sights are altogether different as well.
I'm a Kimber fan, but I went to the range today and shot the M&P in .40S&W and all I can say is WOW! This gun is an ergonomic gem (for me at least). I'll soon have one in my collection along side my Kimbers.
stellarpod
treebeard
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Got me an M&P .40 last week and I absolutely love it. I also picked up a S&W SW99 today and I love it too is darn accurate. I just have to get used to the DA/SA on the SW99. One thing I can say about the M&P .40 is that the trigger pull is sweeeeeet.
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According to the S&W website, the M&P won't fire a round in the chamber unless there's a magazine inserted. They call it a safety feature.doublebarrel said:
Seems to me a safe gun is one that will fire when you need it to.
Kind of makes me go "hmmm....."
I've shot the M&P... love the ergonomics, and the very reasonable trigger. Trigger feels like a revolver for the first shot, and the has a short reset and a relatively crisp, SA-like pull for subsequent shots. Come completely off the trigger, and you get the revolver pull again.
I've dry-fired 3 different KPDs. Ergonomics seem pretty good, but the triggers were different weights on all 3. The best of the 3 was similar to the M&P for the first shot. However, the KPD is a true DAO, with a full reset between every shot, and a long trigger press for each shot.
IMO, M&P>XD>GLOCK™>KPD.
I've dry-fired 3 different KPDs. Ergonomics seem pretty good, but the triggers were different weights on all 3. The best of the 3 was similar to the M&P for the first shot. However, the KPD is a true DAO, with a full reset between every shot, and a long trigger press for each shot.
IMO, M&P>XD>GLOCK™>KPD.
Gary G23
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I handled the Kimber at the Shot Show. I was not impressed.
chaim
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I'm not sure why everyone is badmouthing it so much. I actualy think it looks kinda good. If I didn't just fill the bigbore polymer service pistol niche with a Ruger KP345 I'd probably consider it. I still may, I just won't be in a big hurry to pick up anything in that niche (I have a few other guns higher on my list right now).
softmentor
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price of experience
Has anyone actually shot 100 rounds through one?
How much do they cost?
For that matter, I'd like to try one. Where can I try a few rounds?
Softmentor
Has anyone actually shot 100 rounds through one?
How much do they cost?
For that matter, I'd like to try one. Where can I try a few rounds?
Softmentor
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follow the money
OK I found one for sale at
http://gunrunnertexas.com/KIMBERMAN_PAGE_2.html
2006 KIMBER KPD .40 CAL BUY in stock $499. LIST $595.
KIMBERMAN SPECIAL ORDER PRICE $479.
Now I'm even more curious. Really? That seems cheep? and isn't Kimber the bunch that makes it very much better and charges a premium prices, so shouldn't it be MORE that glocsighks&w's Hmmmmmm?
but how do they shoot?
SoftMentor
OK I found one for sale at
http://gunrunnertexas.com/KIMBERMAN_PAGE_2.html
2006 KIMBER KPD .40 CAL BUY in stock $499. LIST $595.
KIMBERMAN SPECIAL ORDER PRICE $479.
Now I'm even more curious. Really? That seems cheep? and isn't Kimber the bunch that makes it very much better and charges a premium prices, so shouldn't it be MORE that glocsighks&w's Hmmmmmm?
but how do they shoot?
SoftMentor
hrgrisso
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Plastic Pistols
I'm hearing a lot of scattered hits on good polymer guns vs. not good polymer guns etc. I grew up on cold steel (1911's) in fact my favorite gun of all time is my dads service pistol (a 1911 Remington Rand) still shoots straight. But I have really been taken in the last couple of years with polymer pistols. They aren't pretty, but they (generally)work. So here's my list, good and bad.
GOOD:
SigPro(hands down the most comfortable and fun to shoot polymer)
Berretta Px4(capacity, adaptability, rotating barrel=light recoil, fun!)
H&K USP Compact(I hate full size H&K's/hammer bight but this 1=great!)
Glock 23(ugly, but works every time+I picked mine up as police trade in $300)
Springfield XD (14rds of .45 that works, nuff said)
BAD:
KAHR - (small, snappy, you'll carry it, but you won't want to use it!)
S&W M&P (feels spongy in the hand, so does the trigger, for me the POA just wasn't there)
Kimber KPD - I tried to like this one. I really did. It has the looks of my SIGS, I love that, and it also has an extended beavertail, again I like that, but putting it all together, the sum of the parts does not equal the other side.
Buy what you like, what shoots reliably and works for you. HIT THE WHITE SPOT!!!
I'm hearing a lot of scattered hits on good polymer guns vs. not good polymer guns etc. I grew up on cold steel (1911's) in fact my favorite gun of all time is my dads service pistol (a 1911 Remington Rand) still shoots straight. But I have really been taken in the last couple of years with polymer pistols. They aren't pretty, but they (generally)work. So here's my list, good and bad.
GOOD:
SigPro(hands down the most comfortable and fun to shoot polymer)
Berretta Px4(capacity, adaptability, rotating barrel=light recoil, fun!)
H&K USP Compact(I hate full size H&K's/hammer bight but this 1=great!)
Glock 23(ugly, but works every time+I picked mine up as police trade in $300)
Springfield XD (14rds of .45 that works, nuff said)
BAD:
KAHR - (small, snappy, you'll carry it, but you won't want to use it!)
S&W M&P (feels spongy in the hand, so does the trigger, for me the POA just wasn't there)
Kimber KPD - I tried to like this one. I really did. It has the looks of my SIGS, I love that, and it also has an extended beavertail, again I like that, but putting it all together, the sum of the parts does not equal the other side.
Buy what you like, what shoots reliably and works for you. HIT THE WHITE SPOT!!!
treebeard
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From what I have been told it is a step down from their traditional 1911 style semi-autos. I was real close to buying one a few weeks ago.
Kilroy
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Kimber may be requiring their stocking dealers to purchase some of these polymer pistols, as a price of remaining a Kimber stocking dealer.
This dealer may be trying to "pre-sell" the thing so he's not stuck with it when/if they ship.
This dealer may be trying to "pre-sell" the thing so he's not stuck with it when/if they ship.
EnfantTerrible
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I seriously doubt that.
The suggested retail on Kimber's website is $545 so $450 would be reasonable and Impact Guns has it for $415.99 http://www.impactguns.com/store/669278380018.html
The suggested retail on Kimber's website is $545 so $450 would be reasonable and Impact Guns has it for $415.99 http://www.impactguns.com/store/669278380018.html
Oww. Oww. Oww. It hurts my eyes!
I couldn't see the pic posted here, so I went to http://www.kimberamerica.com/kpd/ and almost went blind looking at the thing. You guys are comparing this to the M&P? Wow. I'll admit that the M&P doesn't photograph well, but it is durn purty to behold in person. And it's a shooter, too.
Didn't Springfield already take the motto "Point and shoot"? That is one of the first things you see on this web page.
I couldn't see the pic posted here, so I went to http://www.kimberamerica.com/kpd/ and almost went blind looking at the thing. You guys are comparing this to the M&P? Wow. I'll admit that the M&P doesn't photograph well, but it is durn purty to behold in person. And it's a shooter, too.
Didn't Springfield already take the motto "Point and shoot"? That is one of the first things you see on this web page.
Autolycus
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Yes that KPD is ugly. It looks like the abortion of a Smith and Wesson M&P and a Steyr.
It should never have seen the light of day.
It should never have seen the light of day.
johndoe1027
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I like the M&P way better than a Glock or XD. That's right, I said it. It fits my hand a lot better and carries an extra round compared to the same class G26 or XD Sub9. The Kimber is really ugly though.
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Not impressed.
Besides the Walther P99, why are poly guns ugly?.
Walther is the type of pistol you take home moms. The KPD is what you shoot and don't tell anyone.
Besides the Walther P99, why are poly guns ugly?.
Walther is the type of pistol you take home moms. The KPD is what you shoot and don't tell anyone.
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