Autolycus
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I like the looks of the HK P2000, the USP series, and the Walther. The Sig Pro series is not to bad either.
HK Is what you show your enemies.
HK Is what you show your enemies.
Kimber KPD: Their version of a Glock
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havoc7usmc
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STRONG INTERNAL FRAME
Every one has gone to tupperware. But I think the M&P 40 is going to end up being the strongest of them all. S&W did their homework this time. The internal frame is strong and the slide has a lot of STEEL to ride on, also it's one of the few, if not the only poly pistol that can have the frame rails swaged and tightened if needed. If I had a choice I would have to toss a coin between the H&K and the M&P. I carry the P2000 for duty and a friend has the M&P and I've had a chance to compare them both and they are both outstanding firearms.
Every one has gone to tupperware. But I think the M&P 40 is going to end up being the strongest of them all. S&W did their homework this time. The internal frame is strong and the slide has a lot of STEEL to ride on, also it's one of the few, if not the only poly pistol that can have the frame rails swaged and tightened if needed. If I had a choice I would have to toss a coin between the H&K and the M&P. I carry the P2000 for duty and a friend has the M&P and I've had a chance to compare them both and they are both outstanding firearms.
GreenFurniture
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I'm surprised that this thread has gone 3 pages without one person noting that the KPD is in fact a re-badged Steyr.
And no, Kimber is not pressuring dealers to stock this pistol as a condition of keeping their "master" status.
(they are leaning on some to get in to their long guns though.)
And no, Kimber is not pressuring dealers to stock this pistol as a condition of keeping their "master" status.
(they are leaning on some to get in to their long guns though.)
Father Knows Best
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Uh, GreenFurniture, back on page 1 bofe954 said:
Lots of us saw the ad for the new Kimber and immediately thought "rebadged Steyr." I haven't seen confirmation from a reliable source yet, however. I'll also note that there clearly are some differences, such as the trigger. My bet is that the new Kimber is a somewhat re-engineered Steyr M9/M40. It's probably heavily based on the Steyr, but it looks like it has been modified somewhat to address some of shortcomings of the Steyr (such as the funky trigger and ridiculous safety).bofe954 said:
Phaetos
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I saw an ad for this for the first time on the back of the recent Guns magazine. I immediately thought it was an M&P, then looked at the text and saw it said Kimber 
Anyway, has anyone actually gotten to try one of these yet?
Sorry for reviving an old thread, didn't want to start a new one and get flamed for not searching first.
Anyway, has anyone actually gotten to try one of these yet?Sorry for reviving an old thread, didn't want to start a new one and get flamed for not searching first.
I say bring it on!
As a gun enthusiest I like to see companies grow & expand, cause in the end it gives us more choices & better weapons for SD - plus better prices as they must compete for our dollar - and you gatta luv that! This one may not hit the ball out of the park, but the next one just may.
You S&W M&P fans would have no M&P at all if S&W just stuck to revolvers.... That thought process is flawed. If Kimber can grow and at the same time not let the quality of their 1911s slip - why would you be against it???
As a gun enthusiest I like to see companies grow & expand, cause in the end it gives us more choices & better weapons for SD - plus better prices as they must compete for our dollar - and you gatta luv that! This one may not hit the ball out of the park, but the next one just may.
You S&W M&P fans would have no M&P at all if S&W just stuck to revolvers.... That thought process is flawed. If Kimber can grow and at the same time not let the quality of their 1911s slip - why would you be against it???
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Not to get off topic, or stir up a hornet's nest, but many seem to think this has already happened. I agree about it being good for the manufacturers to branch out a little.
Does anyone know when this thing is due to come out?
I wonder if it'll be available sans mag disconnect safety.
Jason
sturmgewehr
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Really? They look nothing alike except perhaps that they're both auto's.
camslam
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Glocks - often imitated, never duplicated. Imitation is the highest form of flattery and I guess that is why I own the originals.
ugaarguy
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Well if you own Glocks then you DON'T own the originals. Time for you to buy a Heckler & Koch VP70 which IS the original striker fired poly frame pistol.
Seriously, I'm quite sick of every new poly framed pistol being called a Glock copy. There is quite a bit of diversity in the poly framed pistol market nowadays. Just as Glocks were the first successful poly framed pistols after at least one other design that predates them, the M1911 was one of the first truly successful semi-autos which came after several earlier designs. Yet, you don't see folks saying that Berettas are just 1911 imitators.
So, blah blah blah. Are they for sale yet? Has anyone really shot a couple of hundred rounds through one?
It certainly seems to be targeted at the S&W police market with the DAO trigger and the mag disconnect.
For personal self defense as a citizen I would need a version without the disconnect and with somewhat of an adjustable trigger. OTW, I would not be interested.
I did the Kel-Tec P-11/40 thing for a while with a long, heavy (8-9 lb) trigger pull and its resultant negative effect on accuracy and speed. Won't do it again.
My Kahr P-40 has a great, smooth 6.5 lb DA trigger with not too long a pull. Nice and thin for carry, acceptable weight loaded, good size both for concealment and shootability, but a little low on capacity. Reliable and accurate with night sights. It has required some Dremel work to overcome sharp points and to try to help reduce the blocky shape for better concealment. Still not the perfect CC gun for me.
Real world ownership experience with the KPD, anyone?
CB3
It certainly seems to be targeted at the S&W police market with the DAO trigger and the mag disconnect.
For personal self defense as a citizen I would need a version without the disconnect and with somewhat of an adjustable trigger. OTW, I would not be interested.
I did the Kel-Tec P-11/40 thing for a while with a long, heavy (8-9 lb) trigger pull and its resultant negative effect on accuracy and speed. Won't do it again.
My Kahr P-40 has a great, smooth 6.5 lb DA trigger with not too long a pull. Nice and thin for carry, acceptable weight loaded, good size both for concealment and shootability, but a little low on capacity. Reliable and accurate with night sights. It has required some Dremel work to overcome sharp points and to try to help reduce the blocky shape for better concealment. Still not the perfect CC gun for me.
Real world ownership experience with the KPD, anyone?
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