Kimber vs springer

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Ok so there's ten million threads on here for 1911, but I'm at a delimma, I need to make my decision by Friday, I'm torn between the Springfield loaded micro compact, but it's in backorder till who knows when, so I'll have a ling wait, or a kimber ultra crimson in the same size, that I can pick up at he local bass pro, but it doesn't come with night sights,

I really want night sights but idk, I'm not sure if I can justify the extra 300 or so on the next level up kimber, plus it hasbt ot the laser grip

I've been looking around for kimber night sights and I keep seeing certain ones but not others, does anyone know if the trijicon sights will fit the crimson carry?

Also does anyone know if the kimber comes with any accessories like the springer? The loaded comes with a holster and two mags and a mag holder,

I'm sorry to go all over the place with my questions fellas, I'm just leaning upwards to the kimber but am worried about the bad reviews they get,

Thanks ahead of time for the advice guys, I really appreciate it, it all comes down to you guys opinions because I really like the kimber but I also really like the springer......so torn
 
Giterboosted said:
I'm torn between the Springfield loaded micro compact, but it's in backorder till who knows when, so I'll have a ling wait
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Would you be ok with the model with the light rail (includes the XML)? It's available online for $1,075.
 
Currently Springfield by a mile. Kimber seems to be circling the drain. Don't waste your money on a laser. Spend it on ammo and practice time.
 
Well from what I understand the feed issues with limber can be almost solved ith either a tuned extractor or a new one, over tension seems to be a big factor, and a Wilson combat is only about 30$ I think I can live with that, and I really would prefer one without the rail is why I haven't looked into that one more,

And I don't guess I need night sights necessarily but st least some 3 dot would be nice
 
Springfield...hell with the goofy Swartz firing pin block on the Kimber. The Springfield lacks the firing pin block of the Kimber and Springfield is head and shoulders above Kimber on the customer service end in the event you have an issue with the gun.
 
Springer if you ever expect to have service. If you don't care about service after the sale, then by all means buy the Kimber.
 
Winkman822 said:
Springfield...hell with the goofy Swartz firing pin block on the Kimber. The Springfield lacks the firing pin block of the Kimber and Springfield is head and shoulders above Kimber on the customer service end in the event you have an issue with the gun.
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I don't know why you'd make a big deal over Kimber's firing pin safety since it's easily removed. There are far more important things to focus on when choosing a 1911. Your comment about customer service is more constructive, although, as an owner of both Kimber and Springfiield firearms, I haven't needed to contact CS at either so it wouldn't enter into my selection process.
 
I've had both Springfields and Kimbers. Based on my limited experience, I'd go with Springfield just from a quality/value standpoint. Hate to say it, since Kimbers are Made in USA and most Springfields are made in Brazil, I believe.

Kimber will stand by their product, so if you get a lemon, I believe they will make it right in the end. but that's a hassle after spending your hard earned money. So my 2 cents is, wait for the Springfield. Maybe if you look around you'll even find a used Springfield somewhere.

Don't forget to look at Para's either.
 
ColtPythonElite said:
I'd skip the rail, too...I find it nice and ugly...LOL.
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No rail on the Ed Brown that I ordered this morning ... :neener: I will agree that I'd rather not have a rail paricularly on a semi-custom 1911. But the OP has stated that a non-rail version isn't available. I've shown the OP that a railed version is available i.e. have given him another option. So if he "needs" to buy before the weekend, would you advise him to buy the Kimber (available) or the railed Springfield (also available) even though you don't care for either? Telling the OP to wait for an unavailable model may not be a viable option.

P.S. the rail on the Springfield isn't that ugly .... kind of subtle actually, compared to the rail on my Kimber TEII anyway.
 
Wow not a single vote for the kimber? Dang, I'm pretty proficient at my own smithing so if he pin safety bothered me I can just do away with it, I'm leaning harder on te kimber than ever before simply because they have similar warranties an it's AMERICAN MADE lol, nothing in the world against foreign made guns, matter of fact I only own two American guns and both are S&W, but in a 1911 I want usdm, just feels right, and I'm reading a Loy of statistics about the ratio of lemons to units produced an I'm happier now that I've done research, I'm about 90% sure I'm getting a ultra crimson carry tomorrow in two tone, but it has regular sights, I'm probably guna spend he extra scratch an get some night sights in case I ever need a laser and it doesn't work,

Any suggestions on a brand o night sight? I'm thinking trijicon
 
ColtPythonElite said:
Springer...
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That's what I thought ... and I agree. The Springfield seems to be a better value unless you absolutely must have a laser grip. Poor old Kimber has to pay American workers rather than Brazilian ones ... no wonder they have fewer features but cost more! Maybe that's a bit simplisitc, but regardless, I'm still buying a Kimber Stainless Pro Raptor II as soon as I can find one.

Giterboosted, let us know how it turns out and give a range report on whichever one you end up with.
 
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Springfield ...

I was in the same boat as you last year.. calling around, talking to folks. I called Kimber support and spoke with a real nice lady, I asked her if there was a certain model she saw come in for repairs more often. The answer was not really... but she went on to say that Kimber has a 1 year warranty. But if you are the original owner, they would work with you.

Springfield has a lifetime warranty... and from what I've seen on several boards, it does not matter if you are the original owner most of the time. ..

I ended up with a Loaded 9109 and the only thing I've done is get rid of the 2 piece rod (went back with a GI style) and put on an arched MSH.
 
Giterboosted said:
Wow not a single vote for the kimber?
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I have a Kimber TEII and it's not for sale. In this case however, you're getting more for your money if you buy the Sringfield. Personally, if I bought the Kimber, I'd end up swapping out all the parts for Ed Brown and/or Cylinder & Slide parts in addition to a Kimber tactical bump grip safety. Like you, I do my own work and that includes fitting parts and painting, so as I've said before, I choose a 1911 based on the features that I can't easily change, not those that I can.
 
So what parts, being a kimber owner would you change out? An would Wilson combat be decent parts? I like the factory trigger, but are there better ones out there?
 
So what parts, being a kimber owner would you change out? An would Wilson combat be decent parts? I like the factory trigger, but are there better ones out there?
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Depending on the model I would remove the Swartz safety. There is still the hole in the frame which would annoy me.

I would also replace the plastic mainspring housing and mim slide stop.
 
Kimber. Though I'd be fine with either. Have had 4 Kimbers, never a problem with the block safety or anything else for that matter. Know some guys with feed issues related to the ramp needing a good polishing. Never problems after that.
 
I like the factory trigger, but are there better ones out there?
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The biggest reason people change out triggers is to get a different shape or size. The real working part is the steel bow. if it's dimensionally correct, it's correct. The next issue is... does it have any burrs or ragged edges from being stamped out. These should be able to be polished out to make a silky smooth transition thru the frame. When the trigger is out, check the machined channel in the frame, also looking to clean up any burr or edge. I bought a Wilson econ trigger, polished on it a bit. Probably should have gone with the better trigger.
So what do you want.. a long? Short? flat? I'm going to try a flat next time.
 
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