"Knocking Out The Moros" This month in "Gun World" by Jan Libourel. Don't miss

[jc2]

You might want to check out the imperial expansion of the Russian Empire during the 19th century...

I probably not as familiar with Russian history as I should be, and I forgot all about them. They settled on the .44 Russian (roughly equivalent to the .44 Special), didn't they?

 

[billcameron]

I read an article recently that stated the army organized soldiers into two man teams- one member with rifle, other member with pump shotgun loaded with OO buck. Stated they were very successful with this combo. I suspect once they adopted this tactic no one really did much shooting with pistol of any kind.

 

[zxc]

much ado about nothing-if your land is taken over, your wife and kids sanitized by big white foreign men-youd go bananas ..we hope. 400yrs before the American boys the Spaniards got the same treatment. there was no TV back then.

 

[Byron Quick]

much ado about nothing-if your land is taken over, your wife and kids sanitized by big white foreign men-youd go bananas ..we hope. 400yrs before the American boys the Spaniards got the same treatment. there was no TV back then.

Yeah, that's why the US has such large haciendas in the Phillipines...because we conquered them and took their land

 

[guy sajer]

Moro Medicine

No offense to any Phillipino THR members .

 

[mon1911]

finally, a fresh opinion ...

"Lets not forget the ".38" used against the Moro's was not even equal to the lightest 38 special target loads.

What we learned from the Moro's: .36 caliber round nosed lead rounds driven to a low velocity from a handgun do not reliably stop drugged or crazed attackers immediatly.

What we learned in all the intervening years: Handgun rounds do not reliably stop drugged or crazed attackers immediatly. "

Blueduck, you've got my vote and respect!

 

[zxc]

yeah haciendas--lets see American owned/run-Sime Darby, DelMonte, Dole, Subic Bay...dont forget we dont meddle with small fries. Welcome to the NWO>

 

[jc2]

They sure were glad to see us back after a few years living with the Japanese, weren't they?

 

[BigG]

[Moros] ...had their "'nads" all tied up in hard "Granny knots" ...

Yeouch!!

 

[ElAlumno]

Wow!

People actually read the gun rags and believe them?!?!

Kinda reminds me of when Chuck Taylor did and honest, no holds bared comparison/shootoff between handguns and SMGs.

 

[Duane Thomas]

He probably like Duane Thomas and Ed Sanow--talk about "Send in the Clowns!"

How so?

 

[Duane Thomas]

Libourel and Thomas are without a doubt, the absolute worst trashiest writers I've read.

How so?

Thomas changes his mind every other issue and it's really hard to respect that.

Could you give me examples?

Would you take advice from someone that just found their dream gun 2 months ago?

Maybe not, but I don't remember doing that. I do try to keep my mind open, and if I find a better way - or a better gun - I'll start using it.

I did enjoy his shoot-offs comparing SA to DA, snub 38 to little 380 and custom guns to stock ones.

Oh God, those articles. When I first became a writer, I had a bit of pride in coming up with new ideas, not just retreading the same old thing. Then Jan called me up and said, "Okay, I need three articles from you in the next two weeks. And they all have to be shoot-outs between actual guns, you can't just discuss the overall concept. And the three ideas are: Stock Vs. Custom Guns, .380 Auto Vs. .38 Snubbie, and Double Action Vs. Single Action Auto Pistols". At which point I thought, "Ooookay, there goes that whole 'orginality' thing." Talk about stuff that's already been done to death. Did a lot of range time, burned a lot of midnight oil, and actually got all three articles in to deadline. Shudder.

 

[another okie]

I read the memoirs of a young army officer who served against the Moros, and he said the only reliable weapon, and the one he kept near him all the time, was the shotgun with buckshot. He even took it to the toilet with him.

 

[JohnKSa]

Duane,

1. Welcome to The High Road!

2. This thread is 3 years old...the person who posted that hasn't been active on this board for more than a year.

Best Regards,

John

 

[Duane Thomas]

John,

Thanks!

Duane

 

[robertbank]

At this rate I will be dead before this thread gets past page 3.

Welcome Duane nice to see you here.

Take Care

Bob

 

[steelhead]

Mental note: Don't use Jan Libourel for any type of reference material. Better to use the ex-Special Forces/SEAL/RANGER/Agent Orange dude that works at the local gun shop for he is far more credible.

Mental note #2: Always check the date of the original post before responding.

 

[denfoote]

Ho Hum.
Just another gun rag hack that I thought had perished!!

 

[9x19]

Ho Hum.
Just another gun rag hack that I thought had perished!!

How so?

Terminal paper cut?

Rabid carpal-tunnel?

Just what did you imagine that put that smile on your face?

 

[nemoaz]

The Soviets proved 30 caliber (7.62 x 25) was a good killer as they used it many times to shoot their victims in the back of the head at close range. Quite a few million of them, iirc.

Jimmuh Cartuh told me he doubts this ever occurred. Rosie O'Donnell agreed.

So, I think we all agree that

1) .38 round nose lead at 600 fps sucks;

2) .45 Colt is way better than .38 S&W;

3) .45 ACP is way better than .38 S&W;

4) 12 gauge is always a good thing;

5) Jimmuh Cartuh is still a moron and a disgrace; and

6) We're not even on page 2 yet.

 

[pax]

Wow, serious case of threadja-vu.

You guys really want to talk about this, start a fresh thread. I think some of the original posters have long since moved on.

pax