Kodiak

[Jaxondog]

Anyone else see this show tonight? Absolutely awesome and so real and not like all other fake reality shows.. I was wondering if someone heard them say what caliber the three men were using as I did not see the first ten minutes. I learned one thing for sure tonight and that is I want never take a Bow and arrow to kill a big bear even though I shoot pretty good. After I saw that bear get hit by the rifle ......then sped up the charge. I don't think I would go with anything less than a 458 Win Mag.

 

[Buzznrose]

I saw it (again). It was a rerun from Tuesday. Great show. The one thing I don't get is them walking around with empty chambers...seems odd. Maybe the client, but the guides?

 

[-Gadsden-]

Pretty good show from what I've seen so far. Those bears are just massive

 

[Jaxondog]

Did anyone catch what caliber the guns where?

 

[bassdogs]

Last year "Building Alaska" profiled bob tearing down his old cabin and building the new one shown in this new show. So far so good, but suspect it will contain the same "producer" editing. Thought dragging the bear 5 miles across the lake was a little dramatic and not exactly what I would suspect a Top guide to do after a client shoots a bear. Bob is a pretty interesting guy but is definitely a "do it my way" kind of guy with a real potty mouth. Hope they keep the show Real and don't get too focused on the apprentice guides cutting firewood and such. Wonder if they will develop a love connection between the son and the neighbors daughter? It can get pretty cold up there at night.

 

[tnxdshooter]

Anyone else see this show tonight? Absolutely awesome and so real and not like all other fake reality shows.. I was wondering if someone heard them say what caliber the three men were using as I did not see the first ten minutes. I learned one thing for sure tonight and that is I want never take a Bow and arrow to kill a big bear even though I shoot pretty good. After I saw that bear get hit by the rifle ......then sped up the charge. I don't think I would go with anything less than a 458 Win Mag.

Nah a .375 h&h would take care of them.

 

[witchhunter]

I noticed when the guide shot, the bear dropped. The other guide's gun wouldn't cycle? I don't think that blacktail is going to feed that bunch all winter, maybe 2 or three dinners...

 

[gbran]

The hunter was using a 338, but I didn't catch which 338.

 

[Cee Zee]

Did anyone catch what caliber the guns where?

I heard them say that they needed to use at least a .338 for brownies. At least I think that's what they said. It was something close to that caliber. I know that. I'm 905 that they said a .338.

 

[DaBruins]

Yup, the guides mentioned that they require clients to carry a minimum of .338, but I don't think they've said what it is that they're carrying for a back-up weapon. Whatever it is, it certainly stopped that charging bear dead in it's tracks!

 

[pendennis]

About 40 years ago, a friend decided to hunt bear in Alaska. I helped him sight in his Weatherby .460 Mag. (Never, ever do that again.)

When he got his shot, it was at 75 yards, and the bear went down with the first shot. A half-minute later, the bear got up like the Incredible Hulk, and my friend hit it again, this time for good. When he received the hide, some months later, the claws were the scariest thing I'd ever seen.

The guide told him he was over-gunned; that a rifle chambered in .375 H&H would do the job. The guide carried a double chambered in .416 Rigby. From his pictures, I couldn't tell the make of the gun, but it did seem adequate.

Since then, several of my friends have taken brownies with .375 H&H rifles, but none as big as the .460 Weatherby.

 

[rule303]

I enjoy the show, but it certainly has no shortage of manufactured drama. Several of the shooting scenes are obviously staged, I noticed several scenes where the guns changed. The one where the daughter was lining up on the deer with an O/U, it suddenly changed to a bolt action when she took the shot. The bear charge was certainly real, but edited for effect.

 

[Dr.Rob]

Yeah the scene with her hunting was CLEARLY re-shot with 2 different rifles. Nice mascara too.


I suspect segment of the bear charge was reshot/edited. Noone is that calm when they jam.

Still, that charge was real.

 

[mr.trooper]

This is the sort of situation where something like the CZ / BRNO Stopper would be called for - two barrels in 458 Mag, one trigger. Boom, Boom.

 

[lemaymiami]

My brother hunts moose each year in timber at close range on foot.... That's his choice and he's been living up in Alaska for many years taking game for subsistence -caribou and others are open country/tundra hunts. Watching that fellow hunt big bears in timber/ close quarters conditions isn't something I'd ever sign up for. Of course the only dangerous game hunting I've ever done was of the two-legged variety (and we always did our best not to hunt them in close quarters terrain if at all possible). Looks to me as though a bear hunter doing close quarters stuff on foot might find a lot more excitement than he/she planned on if things went wrong...

If it were my hunt we'd be looking for open country bears - and beachfronts would be my absolute first choice.

 

[Jaxondog]

I don't know if I would feel 100% safe with a 338 mag after seeing that bear act like he feeds on being shot at close range. I know there is no doubt if I had a 338 mag and had time to aim I would drop him. But if I was in a situation like that with a charging Brown Bear, I would want the biggest and the badest gun I could properly use. For that situation I saw with the charging bear...there is no such thing as being "overgunned". Those animals are just too quick for me to give one the edge.

 

[Jaxondog]

Did anyone else get a tingling sensation when he started blowing on the call? That really spooked me. You don't know where the bear will be coming from. I think it is a little dangerous, but a surefire adrenaline rush. My eyes would be so wide open looking around that the lids would not shut for a week.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

The guide told him he was over-gunned;

No such thing as over-gunned for big bears as long as you can shoot them accurately.

There is however, a such thing as being under-gunned for them.

If I were able to go hunting them, and I would LOVE to, I would take the biggest gun that I could accurately handle.
The kind of hunting makes a big difference. If I could stand back with a rest and shoot them at 200 yds, I'd not feel under-gunned with a .300 Win Mag, but you get me in a situation where they may be up close and personal, I wouldn't use anything that small. I have a feeling that wide open grizzly hunting like that is rare though.

 

[Cee Zee]

I don't think they've said what it is that they're carrying for a back-up weapon

In the second episode the talked about a friend who was killed because he went hunting with a rifle that was too small. He didn't say what that rifle was though.

I like the show but I can where it will get old quick with them mentioning 50 times per episode that they might die. Duh! We get it. There's nothing wrong with repeating how dangerous it is but not as often as they do it. They need more than that to keep show going. It has potential and I'd hate to see it fall apart because they over hype things and expect someone to nearly die on every show. How many jammed guns will we see? I don't mean to be harsh but they can't sustain a show by repeating the same thing a few thousand times. I'd like to see the show work because they aren't hunting Kodiaks. That's special. But repeating the same line over and over is not special.

 

[Gaffer]

Another reality show spliced together by TV fools who have no clue as to the tough environment that truly exists. On one of the early shows there was a fast clip of a sawed off shotgun that is illegal to own, much less show on a TV show. I am surprised that ATF hasn't contacted them to see who owns it.
The danger of these shows is they give a very false impression to people who don't know any difference.

 

[Cee Zee]

Another reality show spliced together by TV fools who have no clue as to the tough environment that truly exists

Actually that was pretty much all that they talked about. They ran it into the ground IMO. They must have said it at least 30 times in every episode I've seen. That's a lot. You can die out here from the weather. The bear can be hunting you. The bear can charge you if you don't kill it on the first shot. You have to shoot well enough to kill the bear so it won't turn on you and be a super bear. They said all of those things and a lot more. They must have said that the bear could kill you at least 20 times.

 

[climbnjump]

Yeah the scene with her hunting was CLEARLY re-shot with 2 different rifles. Nice mascara too.

Not to mention that she had absolutely no muzzle awareness at all. It was pointed at the guide's back or legs more often than not. They called her on it at least once, but it didn't appear to help.

 

[DM~]

Anyone else see this show tonight? Absolutely awesome and so real and not like all other fake reality shows..

You are kidding.... right??

That bear was at BEST a 3 yr old and I bet you it squared 7' at BEST! (more like a bit over 6) I was amazed that the guide didn't run that bear off and find something bigger!!

The guy shot that bear waaaaay too far back, did he even ck the sights before hunting? They showed him checking the bow, what about the rifle??

Secondly, do you REALLY believe the second guides gun jammed?? How did it jam? He was pulling up on the bolt, but he wasn't pulling it all the way up...he didn't fire it, so was a shell stuck in the chamber??? Didn't he try all his ammo in the gun BRFORE going out??

How about the little blk. tail the gal shot, one scene she's aiming at it with an O/U rifle, next with a bolt action, then back to the O/U...

I wasn't impressed with the bear, the shot or all the BS that I was seeing and hearing...

AND yes I have hunted Kodiak, also the islands by it too....more than once!

DM

 

[Cee Zee]

I counted the "danger" warnings in the third episode. They said it 24 times. Considering the show probably runs 48 minutes or less that's a LOT of hyperbole about the danger. The show could have been good but like so many "reality" shows it's not very real.

 

[bassdogs]

For me, the jury is still out on this show. I love any Alaska based show because I just love the State up there. It will lose me after another couple of shows if they keep up the script shown so far. This guide [Bob and his buddy] are supposed to be among the best, but they act like they were trained in Hollywood. Hike, hike, and hike to get to some favored hunting location and get there when they only have a couple hours of light so have to pretty much head back to the boat before dark. If you're going out to a site that will take so long to reach, you would plan for an overnite camp. Please, every print you see is 9 or 10'. It is well known that Kodiak is home for giant bears, but not every one you come across. Not very authenic so far.