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Kyle Myers (FPS Russia) raided

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by MachIVshooter, Apr 1, 2013.

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  1. jerkface11

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    Giving the ATF the benefit of the doubt is a bit generous.
     
  2. mrvco

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    Understand that FPS Russia is generating advertising revenue from their YouTube channel.
     
  3. mrvco

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    How?

    Type 10 FFL - Manufacturer of firearms, ammunition and ammunition components, manufacturer of destructive devices, ammunition for destructive devices, and armor piercing ammunition; may also deal in all of the aforementioned items. Requires payment as an SOT Class 2 (can act as an NFA Dealer). To manufacture any DD with an explosives content (e.g. flash-bangs) requires an additional FEL[2] as a Type 20 Manufacturer of High Explosives.

    and per the "The Firearm Owners' Protection Act" (sic):

    Under ATF regulations, qualified manufacturers may make machine guns for sale to federal agencies or qualified licensees and special occupational taxpayers as “sales samples” for demonstration to prospective government customers (27 CFR § 479.105).
     
  4. TCB in TN

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    You must not have ever worked with the Atlanta PD.....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston_shooting
     
  5. InkEd

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    Well since he always does that (IMHO annoying) Russian accent in his videos, perhaps the raid was just a cover-up because Obama mistook him as former socialist weapons expert and wanted to offer him a job with DHS. :D j/k


    In all seriousness though, unless he is a suspect in the murder, I see this as nothing more than harassment.
     
  6. leadcounsel

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    As a lawyer with many years of criminal law experience as a magistrate, prosecutor and defense lawyer, let me explain BASIC criminal law to folks here so we can put to rest the conspiracy theories.

    The Professional Russian posted some really cool videos online. In fact, dozens or more. These videos show him using items that would possibly require special licenses. It also appears that he may deal in weapons. He also blows up a lot of stuff, and shows the world how to do it, with tannerite. Legal, sure, possibly. But WE all must be aware of the fact that this is going to draw extra scrutiny on this guy. I.E. He's on the radar.

    I read that his business partner was just killed by a close range shotgun blast to the head. I read that to mean that it was either suicide, or a passion killing from someone wanted him 100% dead. That sounds personal. In criminal investigations, it's probably easy to quickly narrow down the short list of people with motive, means, and opportunity. Someone close in the deceased guys life. Girlfriend, wife, lover, or ... business partner.

    Cops need Probable Cause to obtain warrants and conduct searches. Houses, cars, persons...
    Probable cause is a level of reasonable belief, based on facts that can be
    articulated, that is required to sue a person in civil court or to arrest and
    prosecute a person in criminal court. Before a person can be sued or arrested
    and prosecuted, the civil plaintiff or police and prosecutor must possess enough
    facts that would lead a reasonable person to believe that the claim or charge is
    true.

    In his case, the totality of the circumstances would easily rise to probable cause. Searching for evidence of murder weapon, unregistered Class III items, illegal explosives, illegal ammo, dealing in firearms without a license....

    I don't see anything suspicious with the searches. Think about it. If YOU were the lead detective, where would YOU focus at least some of your investigation. If someone close to you (business partner, family) died with a shotgun blast to the head, you can bet you'd be on the short list of suspects, and you'd likely be subject to a search warrant for your shotguns and shotgun ammo... for instance.

    As for the style of the raid, again, if YOU were in charge of planning a search warrant for a probable murder suspect, well armed with serious hardware, you would bring in hand full of teams to safely conduct the search. In the military it's called overwhelming forces to deter resistance. Sending 4 lightly armed officers might result in 4 dead officers and a fleeing suspect.

    For his sake, I hope he's cleared of the murder, and I hope he's not been dabbling in illegal weapons.
     
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  7. Ignition Override

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    leadcounsel:
    Thanks for the clear explanation.

    Watching Kyle operate his 40 mm cannon firing several consecutive rounds as the muzzle rose higher and higher made me curious as to how much land they own behind that large pond.

    The odd thing was that the impacts which were on the video all hit in the same small area on the opposite shore.:confused:
     
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  8. Brockak47

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    based on FPSrussia channel and video views per day he makes about 600 dollars a day from Youtube, probably more now since he's picked up and extra half a million subscribers since this whole investigation

    I don't really think he did anything wrong in any of his videos and I really don't think he murdered his business partner.

    you know the ATF should be putting these crap investigations aside and working on filling out my NFA forms and giving me my stamp in a timely fashion :)
     
  9. mrvco

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    #1 - The gun used to kill Ratliff was not found at the scene.

    #2 - Ratliff had a Type 10 FFL.

    #3 - I haven't watched all of the FPSRussia videos, but I haven't seen one where they show you HOW to do anything, no mixing of exotic explosives, not even basic Tannerite.
     
  10. Agsalaska

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    I am certainly not one to give the ATF the benefit of the doubt. I would say that I do not know enough about the situation though to immediately call foul on the ATF. More facts need to come out.

    Also keep in mind, even if the guy is innocent, that does not make it wrong for him to be investigated.
     
  11. leadcounsel

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    Again, if someone close to you dies in a brutal and passionate fashion, you can bet you'd be investigated and warrants served.

    I'd say a business parter, shotgun blast to the head, is pretty close and personal.
     
  12. TCB in TN

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    Thank you LC. I understand the current law (as I think most on here do), but if you want to make me believe that it isn't commonly abused (especially by the Alphabet soup club) then you must have visited Colorado for some of those recently legalized smokes.
     
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  13. cane

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    Gee, I was taught a much simpler defination of "Probable Cause". "Facts or circumstances, more than a mere suspicion, but less than a certanity, that would lead a resonable man to believe a crime has been committed."
     
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    And, this one is done.

    sent from my Galaxy Note II.
     
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