horsemen61
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L frame 5 shot 41 mag? If the model 69 is a success and well received would smith make this model
L frame 5 shot 41 mag?
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righteoushoot
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I know 1 sale they would make. 
But please, 3"….
But please, 3"….
ArchAngelCD
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Probably not because the .41 Magnum has only a cult following at best. The .41 Magnum is a good round but it was a victim of bad timing. The think is, there is nothing the .41 Magnum can do which the .44 Magnum can't do as well or better, especially for the handloader.
I'm sure you can always buy a M69 and have it fitted with a .41 Magnum cylinder and barrel. (I know, cost - cost - cost)
I'm sure you can always buy a M69 and have it fitted with a .41 Magnum cylinder and barrel. (I know, cost - cost - cost)
Zaydok Allen
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That would be cool as hell
horsemen61
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Would they make a run if there was enough demand ie like ruger and do a talo edtion
BSA1
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I'd rather see a L-Frame 6 shot 41 Special. Custom gunsmiths such as Bowen are building them.
Who's going to buy a new production 5 or 6 shot L-frame 41 Mag? If it were to be made today, it would come with the lock and MIM parts. The guys who are the devote 41 Mag guys are also typically (in my experience) the guys who won't buy a MIM/lock gun.
I'd be for it. I don't think I'd buy it today, but who knows what itch I'll have down the road. An L-frame 41 Mag may be it. More options are great to me. I don't think they'd sell. The same people who begged for a 5 shot L-frame 44Mag are also the same ones ripping it apart for coming with S&W's current production parts/features. I don't know what it would take to do a special run, but it would be impressive if there were a few of these niche guns made each year in smaller numbers to satisfy the specialty shooters.
I'd be for it. I don't think I'd buy it today, but who knows what itch I'll have down the road. An L-frame 41 Mag may be it. More options are great to me. I don't think they'd sell. The same people who begged for a 5 shot L-frame 44Mag are also the same ones ripping it apart for coming with S&W's current production parts/features. I don't know what it would take to do a special run, but it would be impressive if there were a few of these niche guns made each year in smaller numbers to satisfy the specialty shooters.
It would depend on how many handloaders would want one (who are not the manufacturers favorite consumer base group). Sadly the .41 has become a handloader's cartridge. Factory ammo is available but not really commonly stocked by a lot of dealers. But if you handload .41 Mag. you can have a very powerful easy to shoot carry revolver. I would also like to see it in a 3 in. L frame. With 210 to 220 gr bullets @ 950 to 1050 fps. it would do a very fine job on most problems. With a .411 bore instead of a .430 bore size you get a slightly heavier barrel and cylinder, a thicker forcing gun and with the 5 shot cylinder the bolt notches are located between the chambers instead on top of them. What's not to like if you can crank out ammo for it? I would have to look at one seriously. I have been carrying a 696 .44 Spl. since 96 but I also love the .41.
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SwampWolf
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I have a Taurus Model 415 s/s, 5-shot revolver chambered in .41 Magnum that has performed well. It has a 2 1/2" ported barrel and I am guessing that the frame size is closer to a "K" than it is to an "L"-but it's hard to say without putting calipers to it.
ArchAngelCD
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Just a note, the new Shooting Times (May 2014) has the .44 Magnum S&W L frame on the cover and has a nice write-up on page 36.
This gun has already been made (sort of). I used to have a Smith .41 mag, 3 inch, stainless, 6-shot, N-frame but with a K frame round butt grip. It was one of a Lew Horton special run. It was not pleasant to shoot and I sold it (my bad) and to this day have never seen another one. I make do with a 696 .44 Sp now, which actually seems to be rare also.
I love the concept, as I already own a Taurus Titanium Tracker in 41Mag -- basically the same gun only lighter. But in a steel gun, if both 41 and 44 Mags were available in the same non-N-frame gun, I'd probably just go with the 44...as much as I love the 41.
Not a S&W, but still OK
Friends,
I sure do like Freedom Arms' Model 97 in .41 Magnum.
It feels much smaller than the S&W Model 57.
See http://www.freedomarms.com
MQP
Friends,
I sure do like Freedom Arms' Model 97 in .41 Magnum.
It feels much smaller than the S&W Model 57.
See http://www.freedomarms.com
MQP
BlindJustice
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Re-Intro/Issue the
S&W 646 6 shot L-frame in .40 S&W
but give it a Stainless steel cyl. and make it in 10mm auto
610s are scarece and spendy
.41 Mag. S&W Model 58 arre a nice buy N frame
Randall
S&W 646 6 shot L-frame in .40 S&W
but give it a Stainless steel cyl. and make it in 10mm auto
610s are scarece and spendy
.41 Mag. S&W Model 58 arre a nice buy N frame
Randall
ArchAngelCD
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While the Freedom Arms revolvers are probably the best American guns made today you really can't compare them to a S&W L frame revolver. Size is different, balance is different and ob yeah, the Freedom Arms revolver is a SA, not DA like the L frame. Two completely different beasts.
If you were comparing the Freedom Arms revolvers to the Ruger Blackhawk you would be 100% spot on!
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....and considering the FA's list for over $1000 more(more than twice the price) of a Smith 686 or a Ruger BH, it not really a fair comparison either. Kinda like comparin' a Lexus to a Ford.
45crittergitter
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Well there is one thing - not shoot a Smith revolver loose.
RealGun
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A lot of internet legends quoted here. Of my two .41 Magnums, which I am equipped to compare with .44 magnum, I would say 4" or longer in a steel N frame is the way to enjoy this caliber. I would say the same for 44 Magnum. You have to have the mass under these cannons, or you will likely put it aside directly.
1911Tuner
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There ya go.
The .41 Special has matched the advertised velocities(970 fps) with 210 grain bullets of the old .41 Magnum "Police" load, and thus would prove to be a formidable defensive round...and the actual performance of the police load rarely got to within 50 fps of the advertised...so the .41 Special bests it by about 50 fps in the real world if that really matters.
Unfortunately, it's been a handloader's cartridge, and there doesn't seem to be enough demand for any of the commercial ammunition manufacturers to step up to the plate...nor does it appear that any ever will.
And that's a shame, because a 3-inch round butt L Frame with fixed M&P type sights would make for a fairly compact big bore revolver that could be readily carried.
RealGun
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When both get everyone's attention, what's the difference? They are both crazy loud. What fun!
Mine are running 20.0 gr PowerPro 300-MP and 210 gr bullets.
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RealGun
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Since .41 specials have been known to be converted from .357 six shooters, I expect the builders would skip any need to change cylinders and timing and just bore out to .411, giving us 6 shot rather than 5. If they can push the L frame to 7 shots of .357 and 5 shots of .44 Magnum, I would expect 6 shots of .41 to be no problem for strength and durability as well as keeping the lawyers satisfied..
I believe that the majority of firearm manufacturers do not consider the .41 Rem. to have a large enough customer base to include it in their line up. And they're probably right. It is and has been a handloader's round since the initial introduction fizzled out with the police market back in the 60s. All that said I have been handloading it for 30 years and it is my favorite revolver round. Along with the .44 Spl. (which is in the same class unfortunately) Components and guns are available - just not as popular as the .40 and 9mm and .45 ACP and .357.
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