MI2600
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I have some Colts, S&Ws, and European handguns with lanyard rings, but I have never seen an actual lanyard.
Does anyone reproduce them? Does anyone have an example?
Does anyone reproduce them? Does anyone have an example?
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rcmodel
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Glock for one still sells them.
http://www.glock.com/english/acc_misc_lanyard.htm
WWII reproductions abound:
http://onlinemilitaria.com/shopexd.asp?id=727
And there a gazillion different new design ones that can be Googled under "Tactical lanyard"!
rc
http://www.glock.com/english/acc_misc_lanyard.htm
WWII reproductions abound:
http://onlinemilitaria.com/shopexd.asp?id=727
And there a gazillion different new design ones that can be Googled under "Tactical lanyard"!
rc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USMC-WW-I-C...813?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46165a2775
There ya go. RC has shown you where to get repros and you can find originals if you look.
MI2600
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I can't believe someone bought that Ebay lanyard for $120! The WPD site had repros for $22.
Thanks for the leads.
Thanks for the leads.
How many of those have you seen for sale before? To a collector a fragile item like that is a great find for the collection. Toss in the other items and for a collector that doesn't have some or all of them there's a great incentive to grab it while they can.
If you were just looking for the lanyard there are plenty of other auctions for half to 2/3rds.
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rcmodel
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They bought the Colt Two-Tone mag for fair market value, and got the lanyard and other stuff free.
If it was an actual Colt Two-Tone mag???
Which I doubt.
The 1918 mag pouch is very likely a repro to.
I have the exact same one marked 1918 Mills.
And I know for a fact it is not as old as I am, by about half a century!!
rc
If it was an actual Colt Two-Tone mag???
Which I doubt.
The 1918 mag pouch is very likely a repro to.
I have the exact same one marked 1918 Mills.
And I know for a fact it is not as old as I am, by about half a century!!
rc
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Yeah, there's the problem with online auctions. Someone might innocently out of ignorance say something is "authentic" and not even know they were wrong. Then there are the people who knowingly sell the repros as originals.
rcmodel
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What we can say for certain is WWI & 1918 was 95 years ago.
And there aren't very many pieces of cotton field gear turning up that still smell like new, and appear as new, with no mildew smell, corrosion on the dot fasteners, brass hooks, etc.
If it looks too good to be true?
It is!
The military reenactor & collector market has driven the repro market to the point you got to be a pretty sharp cookie to tell the real deal from a repro made a few years ago and used a little to get it dirty.
Myself?
I'd have to smell of it first' and coon-finger it a little before I would pay that kind of money for any kind of WWI or WWII cotton web gear purported to be the real deal.
And you sure can't sniff stuff on Ebay!
rc
And there aren't very many pieces of cotton field gear turning up that still smell like new, and appear as new, with no mildew smell, corrosion on the dot fasteners, brass hooks, etc.
If it looks too good to be true?
It is!
The military reenactor & collector market has driven the repro market to the point you got to be a pretty sharp cookie to tell the real deal from a repro made a few years ago and used a little to get it dirty.
Myself?
I'd have to smell of it first' and coon-finger it a little before I would pay that kind of money for any kind of WWI or WWII cotton web gear purported to be the real deal.
And you sure can't sniff stuff on Ebay!
rc
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Lex Luthier
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I have paid too much for very specific WW2 Paratrooper items. My 82nd Airborne D-Day uniform is virtually complete, including some very expensive items which remain in the pockets, that is, until show and tell. It has always been interesting to me that I have a $700.00 switchblade in a hidden breast pocket and it rarely see the light.
If I had the right 1911 to fit into my authentic shoulder holster, I would be willing to shell out a few bucks for the right lanyard. Museum quality means just that.
If I had the right 1911 to fit into my authentic shoulder holster, I would be willing to shell out a few bucks for the right lanyard. Museum quality means just that.
rcmodel
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Mmmm?
Do you have an M1A1 Carbine and jump case like mine?
rc
Do you have an M1A1 Carbine and jump case like mine?
rc
ArkieVol
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Lately I've been using these. http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/Maxpedition-Tactical-Gear-Retractor-Large-Strap-81p1870.htm#details
First handgun I had with a lanyard ring was a S&W 1917. Once I found out just how valuable these things are I started putting them on all of my "field" handguns, and move than a few knives. They've save either a long time looking or even the item itself more than once.
First handgun I had with a lanyard ring was a S&W 1917. Once I found out just how valuable these things are I started putting them on all of my "field" handguns, and move than a few knives. They've save either a long time looking or even the item itself more than once.
Longhorn 76
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I have never seen anyone do this before, but when hunting, I adjust my lanyard length to steady my aim while shooting. Like using a sling on a rifle.
Over my head and one shoulder. This length allows the pistol to ride in my holster, and gives a good tension with a two handed hold when shooting.
Over my head and one shoulder. This length allows the pistol to ride in my holster, and gives a good tension with a two handed hold when shooting.
AlexanderA
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That's incorrect for a British revolver lanyard. (Should have Turk's-head sliders on both ends, and the weave should be thicker.) It's also not a jack knife lanyard. Maybe a whistle lanyard?
U.S. lanyards had snap hooks on one end, and didn't loop through the lanyard ring British style.
5Wire
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Make your own:
Cobra Knot (Solomon Bar or Portuguese Sinnet)
Lanyard (Diamond) Knot
Make the loop big enough to secure the lanyard through the eye using a Cow Hitch (Lanyard Hitch) using Loops
Cobra Knot (Solomon Bar or Portuguese Sinnet)
Lanyard (Diamond) Knot
Make the loop big enough to secure the lanyard through the eye using a Cow Hitch (Lanyard Hitch) using Loops
rcmodel
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IMHO: Lanyard's are best made from something weaker then 550 pound breaking strength nylon Para-Cord.
Something that won't hang you, or tear your head off if it gets snagged on something along the way.
If you have to use Paracord?
Put a breakable link of something in it that will let go before you get hung or your neck broke going under a low hanging branch on your snow machine, outboard boat, or skies.
The old cotton cord and small snap hooks they originally used were not all that strong!!
rc
Something that won't hang you, or tear your head off if it gets snagged on something along the way.
If you have to use Paracord?
Put a breakable link of something in it that will let go before you get hung or your neck broke going under a low hanging branch on your snow machine, outboard boat, or skies.
The old cotton cord and small snap hooks they originally used were not all that strong!!
rc
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5Wire
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To retain a tool, knife, or handgun, mason's chord works pretty well, or thin nylon, about 1/8th inch, rawhide lacing, too. Clip to a belt loop if you want something to give way. Para-cord and nylon in general work just fine if you want something to stay with you and vice versa.
For all the lanyard loops on handguns, there seem to have been very few lanyards issued and fewer used. The only military organization that I know used them was the Military Police and they used them for the same reason as civilian police, to keep the gun from being taken in a close up fight.
The intent seems to have been to let a cavalryman retain the pistol if he had to drop it to control his horse or if it were dropped in combat. Lanyard loops were put on the early M1911 magazines for the same reason. But I once did a fair amount of research and couldn't find any pics or articles saying that the cavalry ever used the lanyard on either the pistol or the magazines, even in the days of the horse.
I am willing to be educated on that, so if anyone has pictures or instructions on the use of the lanyard or anything showing that they were commonly issued or used, I would appreciate seeing them.
Jim
The intent seems to have been to let a cavalryman retain the pistol if he had to drop it to control his horse or if it were dropped in combat. Lanyard loops were put on the early M1911 magazines for the same reason. But I once did a fair amount of research and couldn't find any pics or articles saying that the cavalry ever used the lanyard on either the pistol or the magazines, even in the days of the horse.
I am willing to be educated on that, so if anyone has pictures or instructions on the use of the lanyard or anything showing that they were commonly issued or used, I would appreciate seeing them.
Jim
rcmodel
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From early training manual:
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Active duty (Army) from 1982 to 1992 and almost always saw the 1911 issued with a lanyard that was used. Kept a lanyard (private purchase) on my M9 when I was in the sandbox.
I am glad to know that the lanyard loop got some use. I had looked at dozens of pictures of soldiers with both the M1911 and the M9 and didn't see any using the lanyard, but I guess Al wasn't there when they took the pictures.
(Training manuals don't count - they are usually printed before the item is even issued and show the ideal, never the real.)
Jim
(Training manuals don't count - they are usually printed before the item is even issued and show the ideal, never the real.)
Jim
AlexanderA
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British personnel that were issued handguns with lanyards (officers, MP's, commandos, etc.) apparently learned, by the time of WWII, not to loop the lanyards around their necks. They looped them around their belts instead.
http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/8699#.UqI-9tqA2ig
http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/8699#.UqI-9tqA2ig
It is a nuisance if you shuck everything off, and find the lanyard still attached to your neck (especially in the dark).
A lot of the things sold today as 'pistol lanyards' are too short for comfortable use, and were probably for compasses etc.
A lot of the things sold today as 'pistol lanyards' are too short for comfortable use, and were probably for compasses etc.
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