LC9

[Blkhrt13]

I went to the ranger yesterday. My oldest boy and I got a chance to run my 92s and his girlfriends lc9. Her LC9 is purple. This one is the original double action. It also has a safety which was extremely small. I don't think it needed to have a safety with that hard and long of a trigger pull. It stacks up pretty stiffly. I'm trying not to be so critical, but these are my impressions. With a short sight radius it makes throwing shots likely. We will be shooting more often. I am going to end this review on several positive notes though. It's very light and easily concealed. If someone new to guns were able to find one used at a good price I have no doubt they would be better for having it. I plan on looking for one myself. I am going to look into if they made one without the safety. I hope this is useful.

 

[kcofohio]

Yes, the trigger pull may seem heavy to a degree. But with practice, I hardly notice it.

Mine has been reliable and it fairly easy to draw out of my front pocket.

Being use to the trigger with this and the LCR, though I toyed with getting the LC9s, I'll be sticking with the hammer style.

Hope it works out well for your son's girlfriend.

 

[kcofohio]

I am going to look into if they made one without the safety. I hope this is useful.

I think that would be the LC9(s) pro. Striker fired. Shorter trigger pull.

Edit: stoky got it right. I forgot to type the s.

 

[stoky]

The s suffix version has a much better trigger. They also make a "pro" that doesn't have a safety.

 

[Varminterror]

I have an LC9 and an LC9s Pro. On my LC9, I bought an extra OEM safety selector and bobbed the lever to be flush with the frame and slide. A guy can still manipulate it with a fingernail, but I prefer to not have any protrusion which might accidentally activate the safety, which is small and stiff, and right hand only - all of which make it a dangerous liability concern during a dynamic defensive drawstroke. I carry it with the safety off, as it's simply a redundant mechanism which is more likely to cause a dead trigger in the moment I need it to save my life than it is to prevent any ND. Teats on a boar.

I'm looking forward to an "LC9s II" coming out sooner or later, as I never have been a fan of the looks on the LC9. I like the LCP aesthetic better than the LCP II, but the LC9 scale just looks wrong for me.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

I had and LC9 for a short time. It is the only gun I ever got rid of, don't know why I bought it in the first place. The trigger was just to bad to get used to. I have an LC9s Pro now and I like it. Most of the time I carry a larger gun but the LC9s conceals very well when I need it.

 

[Blkhrt13]

I have heard if you take out the mag safety it improves the trigger pull. There also seems to be a how to on safety removal.

 

[Blkhrt13]

Hope it works out well for your son's girlfriend.

I'm
Making her come next time she is coming but she had to work

 

[stoky]

I have heard if you take out the mag safety it improves the trigger pull. There also seems to be a how to on safety removal.

Doing either of which will potentially complicate warranty issues.

 

[kcofohio]

I have heard if you take out the mag safety it improves the trigger pull. There also seems to be a how to on safety removal.

I have removed the mag safety on one LC9. I didn't notice any difference in the trigger pull.

To remove the safety lever, the carriage must come partially out of the frame. That requires the disconnecting of the main spring. When seating the carriage back into the frame, the hammer must be set just right, or the gun will be rendered useless. Just a thought.
Added to that, there is also a lever (firing pin blocker) that the trigger rod must make as you pull the trigger. If that doesn't get placed back in properly, the hammer will fall, but the pin won't make contact with the primer.

 

[Blkhrt13]

There in lies the rub. If I do it I'm screwed on the warranty. If it doesn't help there is no point. The safety just seems pointless. More a liability.

 

[Varminterror]

There is no warranty on any Ruger firearm.

 

[stoky]

I've sent some Rugers back to the mother ship, some decades old and some with issues that were really my fault. They have all been fixed, returned very quickly and with no charge. Some came with a note that said they were no longer manufactured and that parts might not be available in the future.
It might not be a verbose legalease warranty, but they've taken very good care of me.

There in lies the rub. If I do it I'm screwed on the warranty. If it doesn't help there is no point. The safety just seems pointless. More a liability.

I'd agree, if it was always carried in a secure OWB, with no possibility of the muzzle being pointed at my anatomy, but one of it's virtues is a compactness that make for numerous concealment options where I feel much better with a manual safety.
A good trigger and lack of safety seem like contrary features to me.
And far be it from me to open up the liability can of worms...............again.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

Bought my first LC9 about a year after they came out. Loved the Gun did not care much for the long trigger pull. However I shot the heck out of it and became very proficient with it. Later purchased the LC9S and it is one of my favorite and most frequent shooters and Carry. Thousands of rounds with all kinds of ammo and very rare to ever get a failure. I love the design of the gun, the thin grip, and the sleek design. I have become very accurate with it. I do not have the Pro Model nor would I ever buy one, way too dangerous. My trigger is wonderful, but very light and crisp. I guess it has broken in to around 4 1/2 lbs of pull.
I have no problem with the safety, have trained with a safety for years and the safety on the LC9S is easy to disengage on draw.
Hickcock45 made a comment not to long ago while reviewing the Rem.380. He mentioned how some of the striker fired gun now have such light triggers. "Almost like target triggers," He especially referred to the LC9S. I give this as my opinion, but take the warning or toss it. Just saying.
PS Also installed the TFX sights on the gun and love them. Had the Big Dot on the previous model and really did not care for it.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

I tried out an LC9 at the gun counter when they first came out. The trigger was such a god awful piece of crap I just burst out laughing and handed it back to the sales clerk. I wrote it off as a design that would disappear.

Then the LC9s came out, and it was a completely different beast.

I ended up getting my girlfriend one and she really likes it. We threw a Hogue grip sleeve on it and she likes shooting it a lot. Now I need her to start actually carrying it. I actually like shooting that gun too. The trigger is really decent.

 

[everydefense]

I love my LC9s Pro!!! I hated the original LC9 (too many safeties for a carry gun, and the long, heavy trigger made it very unpleasant to shoot).

 

[Schwing]

I have to agree with those who are unimpressed with the LC9 trigger. I actually carried an LCP for a short time and the trigger was just as bad. Then, along came the LC9s and things changed drastically. I bought one for my daughter and it has one of the best out-of-the-box triggers I have ever seen.

 

[Blkhrt13]

I actually wanted it because the trigger was a bear. I guess the striker fired version has its advantages for certain.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

The New LC9S trigger was a major game changer for sure. Now rated by many as one the best triggers out there. Much like the SR9C. But once again, I would not use one without a safety. Which for me is no problem. The LC9 has NOT had many changes since inception other than the Trigger. The Gun has proven to be a HUGE success by Ruger. Now finally one more change and that is in STAINLESS STEEL. Great Job Ruger!

 

[Good Ol' Boy]

I have an LC9s and it is truly a nice subcompact carry piece. I looked at a used LC9 before I got my "s" and am glad I didn't get it.

The trigger is no lighter on the S than many other striker fired guns with no thumb safeties out there. And whether or not one feels a thumb safety is needed is entirely personal preference. I will say, IMHO the thumb safeties on most of these subcompact guns are laughable at best in size and actual function. No way would I trust myself to disengage one under stress.

I would've preferred the Pro version with no TS but I got a pretty incredible deal on a regular S version so I got it. I carry it with the safety off in a kydex holster designed for a Pro model. The holster actually keeps the safety off so there is no worries about drawing and the safety being on. I treat it just like any other "Glock type" gun.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

I have an LC9s and it is truly a nice subcompact carry piece. I looked at a used LC9 before I got my "s" and am glad I didn't get it.

The trigger is no lighter on the S than many other striker fired guns with no thumb safeties out there. And whether or not one feels a thumb safety is needed is entirely personal preference. I will say, IMHO the thumb safeties on most of these subcompact guns are laughable at best in size and actual function. No way would I trust myself to disengage one under stress.

I would've preferred the Pro version with no TS but I got a pretty incredible deal on a regular S version so I got it. I carry it with the safety off in a kydex holster designed for a Pro model. The holster actually keeps the safety off so there is no worries about drawing and the safety being on. I treat it just like any other "Glock type" gun.

We are obviously do not have the same LC9S, I have a hard time understanding your statement that the thumb safeties are laughable. Mine is easy and natural to manipulate at least it is for me, and I have been shooting one for 10 years. Of course maybe you have a size hand that makes it awkward for some reason. I completely trust the training I have done for years. If you do not train with a safety, they I can understand why you would not trust yourself. I will also disagree with your statement that all striker fired guns had the same length of pull and the same trigger lbs of pull. I have never heard of a standard pull across the board. And most certainly, not all have the same length of pull. Each to his own as far as which to carry. A bullet is forever as they say. Too much of a gamble for myself. I carry mine in a Mitch Rosen Belt Holster. Rides very tight and close to the body. Fast on the draw and to target.
The debate on triggers and safeties has been a ongoing debate for years, hopefully it does not get the flames going again. My bad for posting in the first place.

 

[Good Ol' Boy]

We are obviously do not have the same LC9S, I have a hard time understanding your statement that the thumb safeties are laughable. Mine is easy and natural to manipulate at least it is for me, and I have been shooting one for 10 years. Of course maybe you have a size hand that makes it awkward for some reason. I completely trust the training I have done for years. If you do not train with a safety, they I can understand why you would not trust yourself. I will also disagree with your statement that all striker fired guns had the same length of pull and the same trigger lbs of pull. I have never heard of a standard pull across the board. And most certainly, not all have the same length of pull. Each to his own as far as which to carry. A bullet is forever as they say. Too much of a gamble for myself. I carry mine in a Mitch Rosen Belt Holster. Rides very tight and close to the body. Fast on the draw and to target.
The debate on triggers and safeties has been a ongoing debate for years, hopefully it does not get the flames going again. My bad for posting in the first place.

I agree about the "debate" and do not wish to stoke the fire but will reply civilly in an effort to clarify my previous post.


What I meant about "laughable" safeties on subcompacts is the size and being able to actually utilize them under stress. Have you ever handled a Shield or RM380 with a TS? They are the epitome of what I'm referring to. While the LC9s TS is slightly larger I still wouldn't trust it under stress. If I were to carry a gun with a TS I would want it to be like a extended TS on a 1911, hard to miss. I am not a fan of TS's for carry guns but anyone who wants to carry a gun with a TS will get no grief from me.

What I meant about the triggers, I said there are MANY other guns with similar trigger pull weights, not ALL. When I was searching for a SC carry gun I was looking at the LC9s, Shield and the G43. IMHO the trigger pull WEIGHT was not very different in all three. That's not to say that all three triggers were the same or equal. I went with the LC9s because I felt it had a far better trigger overall than the other two, but not really much lighter.

And that's why I mentioned treating it like any other "Glock type" gun. I carry my LC9s in a holster that keeps the safety off and treat it like my other striker fired guns with no TS. After all, they do make a LC9 Pro which has no TS. It's a nice "fairly light" trigger, but its not like carrying a gun with a hair trigger with no safety. There are many other striker fired guns with a similar trigger weight of the LC9s with no TS.

If you train and feel comfortable with it than by all means. I'm sure there are others out there that feel the same way. To each their own...