Legit or fake? Walker on GB

[Texas Moon]

What do ya think?

I say fake.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=247835852

 

[KodiakBeer]

Since the seller identifies it as a fake, I think I'll take his word for it.

 

[[email protected]]

I say fake also. Wedge is going in on wrong side for one thing.

 

[Jaymo]

The frame, bottom of barrel, and grip frame all look like they were sand cast. Odd.
At least he doesn't want much for it. (sarcasm)

 

[Zombiphobia]

Read the sellers description. It answers this question.

 

[Jaymo]

Zombiphobia, Re: your sigline. Ma Deuce answered all questions about big and fast. Big and fast=good.

 

[mykeal]

hundreds of thousands were made and sold to American cowboys,

????
Hundreds of thousands? So, where are they? Why haven't we heard of this before?

 

[Fingers McGee]

I'd say the description is fairly accurate - it's a modified fake of unknown origin.

 

[Caliper_Mi]

So, the seller claims it is a fake, but a vintage fake from the era? Interesting story, but I can think of a lot of other things to put that kind of money into... Even if the story is true, you still have a repro Colt, not a real one.

 

[Slamfire]

Elmer Keith said he had an original Walker, I think the barrel was cut down.

He sold it, and at a Gun Show saw that someone had welded a barrel extension to bring it back to original length.

And were trying to sell it for much more than what Keith got for it.

I remember reading somewhere original Walkers are so valuble and so rare that there are lists of the few left. Kind of like the lists for painting by Van Gogh, Rembrant, etc.

Not going to be any "undiscovered" ones ever.

As for paying $4.5 K for a rusted Italian replica, is that guy crazy?

 

[4v50 Gary]

Caveat emptor.

 

[Jaymo]

+1.
The Spanish made a bunch of cheap copies of nice S&W revolvers back in the late 19th/early 20th century.
Does that make them highly collectible/valuable junk? No. Just junk.

 

[Zombiphobia]

personally, I don't care what name is stamped on it. Unless it's a limited edition, full of gold, silver and jewelling, it's just an old gun.

I think most of the stuff on GB is ridiculously over-priced regardless of what it is or who made it. Suply and demand, I guess... a 1st generation Colt SAA is only worth over 10 grand bcuz people will pay it... and because(from what I've heard) their currently made products are crap. Oh well, If I had money I'd buy one just to resell it later to some collector who's willing to drop a small fortune on a corroded hunk of metal.

Besides, what good is a gun that can't be fired? It's like paying the same thousands and thousands of dollars for an antique BP pistol that I can't shoot... why? I can pay just a couple hundred for a MODERN BP pistol that I CAN shoot.

Collectors... you people amaze me. If I can't shoot it, it better be really special. Just being old and having a certain name attached isn't going to cut it.

 

[tarosean]

I remember reading somewhere original Walkers are so valuble and so rare that there are lists of the few left. Kind of like the lists for painting by Van Gogh, Rembrant, etc.

Not going to be any "undiscovered" ones ever.

Here is that list...

Civi - 16
A Company - 39
B Company - 27
C Company - 37
D Company - 26
E Company - 18


I wont say an original wont ever, find its way to those numbers. You never know what someone has laying around never knowing the value of it.

 

[pohill]

Collectors... you people amaze me.

What amazes me is people who can't let others do what they want without negative comments.
I collect a few, shoot many others - originals and repros. So what?

 

[Zombiphobia]

so nothing, do what you want. Take it personally, get mad over an internet forum comment, blow bogus amounts of money on rusty old guns if you can afford it, walk around in a clown suit, I don't care.

I just said it doesn't make sense to me and put too much effort into making that point. Dont get mad about it.

 

[junkman_01]

Pretty thin skin there pohill. He was just expressing his opinion.

 

[pohill]

Not mad. Just making a point, just expressing an opinion. And of course junkman had to jump in with his comments. Some things never change.

 

[junkman_01]

....and never will!

 

[StrawHat]

Copies of the Walker have been made in amchine shops for quite a while, not many but when it is possible to duplicate a valuable piece, someone will do it and sell it.

Some peolpe even have collections of counterfits.

 

[madcratebuilder]

I say fake also. Wedge is going in on wrong side for one thing.

The wedge is correct, the Walker wedge is opposite from the rest of the Colt family.

This listing describes the revolver as a 19th century counterfeit and it appears to be one. Probably a Belgium copy. As for price, only the bidder can determine that. There are collectors that deal with counterfeits, but I think this one is over priced.

Quote:
Collectors... you people amaze me.

What amazes me is people who can't let others do what they want without negative comments.
I collect a few, shoot many others - originals and repros. So what?

Your beating your head against a wall. On the bright side most people, as the mature well learn the intrinsic value of things, counterfeit fire arms included.

 

[rocky branch]

I saw a brass replica dragoon a navy vet friend of mine made long ago in a ship's machine shop.

He had a real one at home.

 

[KodiakBeer]

Here is that list...

Actually, 1,100 were made.

 

[tarosean]

Actually, 1,100 were made.

Those on the list were/are the known survivors

 

[HKGuns]

Someone please educate my as to why the beat up old pistol was thought to be worth over $4500? -As a fake even? Although I'd be interested in knowing why an original would be worth more? Looks pretty run of the mill to me and that one looked to be in horrible condition.