Mandirigma
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http://www.pandachute.com/videos/license_plate_recognition_system
Great. Combine this with traffic light cameras. Just great....
Great. Combine this with traffic light cameras. Just great....
License plate recognition system
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geronimotwo
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ok, from my local paper i just received news that the new york state division of criminal justice services has just "given" one of these units to the delaware county sheriffs office. "our remington(!?) ELSAG system is now fully operational". i'm all for justice being served, and i have no intention of becoming a felon, but i find this orwellion idea to raise my neck hairs.
geekWithA.45
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The guy who invents the license plate flap that lifts when driving, and lowers when parked will make a coupla bux.
carpediem
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Too bad license plates don't like those alphanumeric strings used to deter bot registration
This in no way invades anyone's privacy. He's simply taking pictures of cars driving on public streets. The same thing a police officer sees with his own eyes while driving a marked car, just more efficient. If you aren't driving a stolen car you have nothing to worry about.
sacp81170a
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One little problem:
27-14-716. Display of license plates generally.
(a)(1) License plates issued for a motor vehicle other than a motorcycle shall be attached thereto, one (1) in the front and the other in the rear.
(2)(A) When one (1) plate is issued, it shall be attached to the rear.
(B) License plates for trucks of one (1) ton capacity or larger may be displayed either on the front or rear of the vehicle.
(C) The license plate issued for a motorcycle required to be registered under this chapter shall be attached to the rear thereof.
(b) Every license plate shall, at all times, be securely fastened in a horizontal position to the vehicle for which it is issued so as to prevent the plate from swinging and at a height of not less than twelve inches (12") from the ground, measuring from the bottom of such plate, in a place and position to be clearly visible and shall be maintained free from foreign materials and in a condition to be clearly legible.
(c) Placing any type of cover over a license plate which makes the license plate more difficult to read or which reduces the reflective properties of the license plate is prohibited.
At least, that's the law in Arkansas.
carpediem
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Cell or landlines? The cells are a theoretical hack w/ the complicity of the carrier. Landlines are old news
Pretty soon you won't be able to do anything with out being monitored by uncle sam.geronimotwo
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or have any unpaid traffic tickets, or warrents for arrest, or borrow someones car, or driving on a suspended license, or someone missreads the license plate of a getaway car, or are associated with any of the above people, or a law is passed that makes it illegal to own firearms and you didn't turn yours in...........................
I work for the State of Utah and work in the same building as the state motor vehicles police and they have this system on a couple of vehicles. From what I have been told by them, they are for spotting stolen vehicles and plates only. When It picks up a stolen plate or vehicles it does an automatic search with the Utah criminal justice system. It is only used for that function in this state.
If you have any of those things then you deserve to be pulled over and you deserve anything else that happens to you in the process.
If you hang around with criminals then you can expect the police to bother you too.
Having cameras that read license plates makes no difference in that case. It isn't the camera's fault, you'd get pulled over anyway if a cop saw the wrong plate.
Aside from the ridiculousness of that...the camera can't see your gun.
Outlaws
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Just shoot me now.
That whole anarchy thing in high school seems like so much better of an idea now... Every man for himself.
That whole anarchy thing in high school seems like so much better of an idea now... Every man for himself.
Yeah well... these types of statements would mean a whole lot more to me if I had confidence in the intestinal fortitude of the self-proclaimed fiercely independent and self-reliant to actually suck it up and deal when they were victimized.
The problem is that so many of these folk who vocally advocate limiting the tools and resources available to those protecting them are more than prepared to dial 911 at the first hint of a problem and plead for assistance from the system they are trying to hamstring.
If you can't handle the PD running your license plates kids, you really need to ask yourself why... and consider taking a bus.
carpediem
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This technology is or has the potential to be the equivalent of a LEO tailing every vehicle 24/7. You don't have a problem with that?
The technology does absolutely no such thing. The technology provides notification to a law enforcement agency when a specifically predetermined license plate is located without a LEO actually having to physically scan every license plate in his vicinity. That is it. It does absolutely nothing that any LEO cannot already do, it simply automates the process. The system notifies law enforcement of licenses attached to individuals that have hits in the system, or vehicles that have been identified as stolen.
And as someone who spends his day cleaning up after people who don't feel the need to play within society's rule's... no, I have no problem with that.
And as someone who spends his day cleaning up after people who don't feel the need to play within society's rule's... no, I have no problem with that.
Outlaws
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For the people who like this system.....
I see nothing wrong with getting people who stole a car or have no insurance....Lord knows we have a lot of uninsured motorists here in Pheonix...but things rarely stay used for what they were designed for. This happens to be one that falls into that catagory IMO.
I see nothing wrong with getting people who stole a car or have no insurance....Lord knows we have a lot of uninsured motorists here in Pheonix...but things rarely stay used for what they were designed for. This happens to be one that falls into that catagory IMO.
geronimotwo
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bigblock, i agree that if you are a criminal you should pay the piper, my point was that there are many other things besides a "stolen car" that this system will be used for.
Just because they know the owner of that license plate also owns a gun does not mean they could ever pull them over for having a gun just because the camera saw their license plate.
They would have no way of knowing whether or not that gun was in that car.The rampant paranoia on this forum is really getting old...
geronimotwo
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what do you think the second ammendment is about?
carpediem
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Note that I wasn't taking issue w/ the specific application, but with the technology. In addition, I stated that it had the potential to be. Not that it was.
geronimotwo
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if yuo had a registered gun, and guns were made illegal, and you didn't turn in your gun.........., the logical conclusion is that you would have a warrent out for your arrest for not complying. no?
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