Life After AWB

[VaughnT]

I'll make a promise, right here and now, that if the AWB dies in september, I will allocate somewhere between $500 and $1000 to buy an evil black rifle of one type or another. I wouldn't mind learning the AR15 and the qualities of the .223, so long as I get a collapsible stock and railed forend.

If I can find two of them cheap enough, say a post-ban and an after-ban, I might just go that route.

Until then, ya'll educate me on the different makes and models of evil guns I might acquire. The eviler, the better.

 

[Logan5]

In the years before the ban, not many people actually wanted the stuff that got banned. Even me! I recall that around 1989-90, I wanted to get into high power rifle competition, and being a minor at the time, I asked my dad for a Colt Delta HBAR. What he got me was an AR15A2 Government Carbine with the whippy little barrel and collapsible stock, and I was pretty miffed. (no, of course I didn't say so!) We had an IMI Uzi pistol that came with a shoulder rig and all these 30 round mags, and I sold it before the ban for $450 and put the money towards a Beretta 686.
Of course all that stuff is banned by state law here now, with no sunset, so I'll have to move if I want to replace them post federal sunset.

 

[Dionysusigma]

It's my sincere belief that all these false, unmoving tele-stocks and welded-open folding stocks are going to drop to ~$.99 each

 

[Zach S]

Take my Glock 21, add a folding stock...

Wouldnt that make it an untregistered SBR?

I'd like to see 20 round P14 mags....

I sincerely hope that Para-Ordnance produces P-14 magazines by the dump-truck load, for the three I have are pretty tired, and I don't feel like paying $60 each for replacements, with the ban going away in 2 months and change.

Someone told me that they were around 50 or 60 clams before the ban. Have you priced a ten-rounder lately? MSRP for a factory PO clinton mag is about 50 bucks.

 

[another okie]

I bought a Bushmaster AR-15 last year basically out of the fear that if the ban was renewed it would ban all AR types rifles. My AR has no muzzle break or pseudo collapsible stock - it's a very ordinary looking 20" barrel, regular stock. Now if the ban goes away I might just be tempted to buy a 16" short with flash suppressor, muzzle break and collapsible stock just to show I can.

 

[WhiteKnight]

About how long will it take for manufacturers to begin producing "high cap" magazines after the ban sunsets?

 

[Correia]

Whiteknight, they are producing them now, they are just marked for Law Enforcement only. On Sept 14th they are just going to quit stamping them.

 

[Walking Wounded]

I heard on another forum that the ones stamped "For law enforcement use only" will still be illegal! There's no way it can be true of course because the law criminalizing posession of the stamped mags will be kaput. The ban has resulted in strange behavior by gun owners if nothing else.

 

[shep854]

A nice addtion to a collection would an "LE Only" AR-15 or some such. LE Only might be a good theme for a collection in itself!

 

[ClonaKilty]

I imagine that gun companies are going to be cranking out piles of magazines and every other goodie around the clock as we, the gun buying consumer, gorge ourselves like crack heads on free methadone day at the clinic.

Oh man you are so right. I plan to spend several thousand dollars on new ARs and FALs with telescoping stocks, flash suppressors and MANY 20-round magazines. Plus many more standard-cap mags for my AK and Glocks...

 

[G1FAL]

I dont think AK mags will get any cheaper. There were practically billions of them produced before the ban, and since they are 'pre-ban', they can be imported. Thus the reason that you can get 4 AK mags and a pouch for $33 from IO, but ONE M16 mag will run you a little over $20. Same goes for FAL, G3, (maybe) Uzi, etc. mags. If its military surplus and not in general issue today, or in issue but not being produced by the boatload, prices wont go down much.

I WOULD like to see the AR mags I've heard of before, $2 each if you bought them by the hundreds. Yeah, I think I could dump $400 on 200 AR mags. Can never have too many.

I'm not gonna dump my neutered AR's. Cheaper to just remove the dummy brake, take off the front sight post/gas block, put the new block with bayonet lug on, put on a flash supporessor, and make a liberal mad.

The FALs wont even be that hard to return to original. Or the AK's.

I have been seriously considering making a Para P-14 my next pistol. Theres something very appealing about having a .45 that holds that many rounds, and ISNT a Glunk. Thus, I would like to see the prices on those mags come down. I saw someplace in SGN that had them for like $40 or $45 or so, I THINK. Might have been SOG. That would bite, since I try not to order from SOG or AIM.

I'd like to get some larger mags for my wife's CZ-100, though. Its a .40, and based on the size of the mag, should be able to hold 15-16 rounds, no problem, if it werent for liberalsocialist politicos.

And I would REALLY like to build a FAL para, complete with folding stock.

 

[Cowgunner]

I'm gonna get me a bushmaster AR-15 with the standard 20" iron sight model, and fix my old M-7 bayonet on it and rampage around my backyard bayonet assault course.

 

[AZLibertarian]

...put the new block with bayonet lug on, put on a flash supporessor, and make a liberal mad....

I've always been puzzled by the bayonet lug thingi. Now I understand the attaction and need for flash suppressors, folding/collapsable stocks, and of course, high capacity mags, but who among us (collectors excepted), really has a use for a bayonet?

Mind you, I'm not falling into the "I-don't-think-you-'need'-this-feature, therefore-we-ought-to-ban-it" line of thought. And I do understand that sometimes, "Just to make a liberal mad" is reason enough to do something. But, as a practical matter, what difference would it make if one's Ugly Rifle had a bayonet lug or not.

Me...I'm gonna stock up on as many quality hi-cap's as I can justify with Mrs. AZLib. During the ban, I've picked up a few here and there, and most are just crap. And, I too have to admit an attraction to that P14. We'll see though.

 

[armabill]

I think that the reason for the bayonet lug and/or the flash suppressor is to prove that the upper is really a preban. Otherwise, how can one tell?

 

[Joey2]

The AWB will be passed either in its original content or called something else with added bans.

Every time a major gun issue comes up in congress we just happen to have some nut case going on a killing spree.

The 2d Amendment is dying by more restrictions that changes a right into a priivilege. Every time we apply for a CCW we turn a right into a privlage.

Every time we concern ourselves with "straw purchases", transfer of a weapon to some body we turn our right into a privelage.

Look at California you can't own a weapon tha holds more than 10 rds. Yes, Hawaii follows California so I am in the same boat as the shooters in California.

My message is please don't jump through any hoops if the AWB sunsets because the powers to be has something more restrictive in the works.

Its going to take a mass disregard for the unjust laws. Who wants to lead the charge?

There already been some people who have lead the charge, one name comes to mind is Rick Stanley from Colorado. He is facing some seriious time behind bars.

How many of you have supported him either morally or financially.

How many of you have just blew hom off as a nut case?

I did in the beginning because he invaded my comfort zone of letting someone else leading the charge.

I have too much to loose to do this so I set somebody eles do this. How may of you are in the same boat?

At what point will we stand up togather and say enough is enough?

There is a purpose for the 2d Amendment and it is not just to have the right to hunt.

When will be be fed up enough to say we will not accept anymore crumbs from the table of the 2D Amendment.

This is a rant of frustration I feel.