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  1. caribou

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    My legal problems are still with me, as I still await retrial. Its been over 2 years now, and even with the felony evidence tampering and purgery the two Alaska State Troopers committed against me,and are well known
    http://www.thearcticsounder.com/article/1249noorviks_hailstone_sentenced_seeks_appeal
    I await retrial and they work with the public......but my wife and daughter have progress Federally, but its best not posted.
    Getting the Audio Forensic Specialist scientific proof of tampering was the best money I ever spent. Im glad the Judge did an about face when I present it at sentencing, and Ive been free, no bail, awaiting this retrial decision. Gotta be patient and get the best out of this bad situation, so I wrote a book about it all. Might as well profit from the drudgery placed apon me.

    I too cannot wait for the day I pick up a rifle and get back with it again.
    Funny thing too, we watched the Season 4 episode 1 again tonight on the Youtube, and they certainly upped the number of shots taken. We see , plain to us, that both cameras were running along side and both got both cameras recoding shown, effectively doubling the number of shots fired ~~LOL!!~~

    Editors and action shots, sometimes a shot or two and a commercial and then a recap beginning with the shooting....uuuugh.:barf:

    Commercials even rear their ugly heads on Youtube.....

    The Happy People is a most excellent show, I have watched it twice. They drive Skidoo, I drive Polaris :D

    As for gas, we use a drum and haul it out, make a camp and go back for a sled load of jerry jugs. The 55 Gallon barrels are the largest amount in one container that a body can manage.largest amount that dosent crush a sled too. We prefer the jerry jugs as they are much more manageable, but when we set up for a week or two, we bring the drum, then go back for a sled load of gas and what ever, then stay till the gas runs low, pack it up and go home. We use cache's for gas and to store furs, gear and such so we can make loads to a nearby village in stages or go home in "trips" back and forth till its all home. Sometimes we leave it all at a camp and get it months later, depending on what were doing. Its good to have food, gas ,clothing and a dry bed waiting for us. . Also we double up and leave the second ride at camp, weather were tenting or at one of our houses,we have trails to walk home and in our Winter grounds, we have a basic 22 mile loop we drive for trapping and use tents or a public shelter cabin nearby.. If we break down, were 11 miles at the furthest to walk back to a good ride, but sometimes we put the tent at the 1/2 way and shorten the potential walk.... we do, often, deviate while we hunt, but its the same basic areas we trap line on. The cabin is only a couple hours ride from a village, so its not too much to get it done, gas wise. We burn 5-10 gallons, depending on the day, on the days we ride. Bad weather has us stuck for longer than the gas can last too, so we bring grub along as well. We use two different kinds of sleds, a flat sled and a basket sled. The flat sled takes the weight of the gas, and things like fire wood logs, ice and frozen carcasses, while the basket sled is light and dosent drag as badly, carry's kids, old people and camp gear, so we often use the basket sled while getting the traps checked or traveling far, the flat sled for a firewood run or for moving carcasses and such.

    Then we tan the furs and the wife sews them into museum displays.We buy more gas. I cut and sell firewood 4 loads a day easy inna cold day, for 100$ a sled load and buy gas. My wife makes artwork and buys gas. People buy gas and trade us for fish and Caribou, legally. The chainsaw pays for itself a couple times over on the first day I use it. Ive posted many pictures on HR. We have no morgage, no loans or credit cards, no collage bills, no rent to pay, just pay and build/go/have//ride/fly or whatever.We own the land, house and everything we have outright.Our water/sewer/phone/internet/electricity runs about 600$ a month total. The gas for my snow go is about 85$ to fill the tank, and a quart of oil to go in it too makes it about 107$. A round trip to Kotzebue, the nearest "Town" is easy, with gas left over. If I flew round trip to Kotzebue, it would cost 360$, so the gas situation has always been important, but it is the most effective way to go, economically. Shipping doubles the price of everything. We make more money ourselfs than Nat Geo would ever pay. If something breaks while filming, BBC fixes it.The rest of the time, its us being ourselfs.

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  2. bainter1212

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    Wow....I really love that scrimshaw tooth. Did you do that yourself?

    I must confess that I don't watch the show.....don't watch TV much at all. However, I love to see pics of your happy family and descriptions of the life you all have built for yourself. Keep up the good work.
     
  3. bassdogs

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    Caribou - About the gas, do you have to use something to keep it from going bad? What about ethenol? We have to deal with this in our boats, generators, chainsaws etc. Just pitched a chainsaw when the fuel line melted from the ethanol and the carb. got totally hosed up. Almost all of our gas in Ky and Tn have ethanol so we use an additive to prevent damage. I haven't been as good as I need to be with using it and it has bit me a few times. Does your gas have ethanol up there?

    It really surprises me that with all the evidence and press that your legal plight has received, that the authorities have not just walked away from the original charges. If it wasn't for the filming, do you think they would really come after you for the gun thing? Have your att'ys petitioned the court to enter a summary judgement to drop the charges?
     
  4. Remander

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    Chip/Caribou,

    Thanks for all your insights. Your life and mine could not not be more different, and that is what makes the show so interesting to me.

    Most of us realize the dramatizations and take things with a grain of salt. I'm willing to put up with it a bit on THIS show because it is not too overdone, and it is so interesting.

    Good luck out there to you and your family. I look forward to the new season.

    I truly appreciate your posts and information.

    Thank you
     
  5. caribou

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    Thanx!

    Have I said before that we actually avoid "Drama"? Its sort of an Inupiaq Values "Inupiat Ilitquisate" (like the Eskimo 10 commandments for good living) their standards to live by.Good rules to live by when you see the same folks every day, and have the ins and outs of time passing.......and we all try to get along, its a Cultural thing here, living with those who kill to live.

    #1 repsect for yourself and others
    #2 avoid conflict.

    The rest are about shareing, forgiving, family and how to treat others, and when a bunch of folks live in fairly tight quarters, they develop ways to get along .........or they dont, and that can be devastating, and from the time the kids are born till they teach it to their kids, most are able to get along with little drama. Thers plenty to do, and a common struggle with fuel, food and life in general, that i you can get with folks who laugh at adversity rather than get pissed, its a much better going, 'cause we gotta do it any ways. Personally, the best friends I had/have are ones I have worked hard with, and shared the profits with.

    As well, we refuse to sit down and take the handouts in food and heat from the gov. Thats been the death of this place, noneed for a Man in the house when the food and heat replace him. Then the cheap and easy to get alcohol is the way to pass the time, so , thankfully were dry village as most all "drama" here involves drinking, so youll never see that amongst us, or those we roll with.

    With the other cast, I tend to think they are what they are, thers little a producer could do to change their personalitys, I think any change would have genuinely come from with in. Ive worked with producers and camera guys that have also worked with the other cast and they have not asked or attempted to stage or set anything up. They will ask ,repeatedly, questions about whats going on as they film to keep to a theme or story line...like building a stove or Hunting a certain thing, Thats my experiance, anyways.

    Theres no ethanol in our gas, its not good in the cold and inhibits combustibility in winter, as well as eats the rubber you mentioned. We get gas, its already old, so if we store it, it gets a does of Octane boots and storeing mix. I buy it by the little bottles and seldom store more than 400 gallons. I do buy bulk gasoline when I make a good chunk of change, it knocks off a couple bucks a gallon.

    There is no "gun thing" or the show helping me in any way. I cannot touch nor control guns,and I dont. Im not stupid enough to do that, especcially since that would play into the hands of the punks that framed me. The wife stores her and the girls guns with relatives and when filming we keep them stored in a locked carry case,and kept in a different tent with the crew, usually with Jeff, a local that works with the film crew who drives the crews boats and does Snowgo maintainace, and Im gonna win. I have made sure, absolute sure that my probation Officers knows and approves. They cannot deny my wife and other their rights, but I have no say, and I refuse to have any say, any control what so ever. She gos to and gets her rifles before we take off and returns them and cleans them where she stores them, no problems. Its been a bit over two years now. The shooting vids on the post I made above and posted in the past are all previous to my conviction.
     
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  6. bassdogs

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    How does the annual State residence dividend play into life in the outer villages? As I understand it every man women and child who have been residents for a year qualify. I assume that it is not considered "welfare" as it is payback for natural resources harvested from Alaska public lands. Also does your family or others who home schooled get subsidized school materials for home schooling. Just read a book where folks who moved to Ak were able to take advantage of that benefit. I know you don't home school at least not anymore but just wondering how that works if it is still available. I understand not accepting government assistance for the reasons you stated and others. Are people who do treated differently by the community as a whole since the others work so hard to provide food and shelter to their family. I know down here many of us struggle when about 75% or our very rural county are on some form of assistance. Drugs and alcohol abuse is wide spread and the news each week seems to have the same names arrested for the same offenses. These people don't get a lot of love from those who pay all the bills for their family and 2 or 3 others who take but don't provide.

    Sorry kind of got into a rant. Wanted to let you know that the dislike of government assistance is universal and not just in the outer villages of Ak.
     
  7. caribou

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    Young, capable people who get "Free shtt" are looked down apon, for sure.
    Disabled, and elders who are retired on 1980's wages sure do need the help, and there are some cases where family's are broken up by deaths and divorce, and the parent with the kids get help, although giving food stamps to folks who make a ton of food dosent help much, the fuel assistance to those folks is the real help in our deepest coldest days, as they cannot get out and get both food and fuel and keep the house warm and such with kids to watch and theres a few elders who just cant physically get wood and keep it chopped and in the stove..

    The permanent fund Dividend all Alaskans get is "Bonus" to us, not something to count on, and its only once a year that anyone receives them, usually October, and we spend our and our kids on our kids. No one could live up here off just a dividend a year ~~LOL!!~~ This year I payed for the dirt I filled my swampy yard with :D The PFD money is a revenue share from the States profits from investments and oil revenues and not a form of 'welfare' at all, as all resident citizens get a fair and equal share, even millionaires get the same ammount. If other states made a profit and had a very low populations that made distribution of profits possible, I think it would be foolish not to get he profit share. Its also a great economic stimulus in our state each fall, and most Alaskans spend their dividend in state.

    Ill add too, that since Native Alaskans were not defeated in Combat with the US Military as the Plains and other Indians were, and were not placed on prisoner of war Camps and Reservations, and no lands, titles or rights were signed away in treaties, there is no "Support" "stipend' or some check from the Federal Government to Alaska Natives , as individuals.
    It wasnt untill the 1960's that racial discrimination was slowing down. Natives who were full blood (not just 1/2 as before) could attend public university and further their education in politics and economics. Before that only Indian boarding schools and University's were offered, but the abuse and low standards were obstacles and the military was often the only way to get educated and advance on merits and race wasnt an issue. Thankfully, thats not an issue now, but these things take generations to change, as discrimination is a Human Condition

    the ways The US government had to pay back to the Natives for what was adversely taken when the Territory was becoming a State, and that took untill 1971 to figure, more than 20 years since they started the court case to recover the lands and tital. The Alaska Native Lands Claim Act was for People who lived here and were in original possession of the lands and resources, as they were illegally taken from them. Often, this included NON Natives and "Homesteaders", and they too were protected from the Gov taking what they possessed before Titals were given or asked for. The Corporations were to build Business to become self sufficient, so were not taxed as the money was "Return of investment". "Profit" and taxability came along about 1989, when the Corporations had formed business's and passed the investment mark. Untill 1924 Women and Natives, Blacks and Immigrants couldn't own property or vote in Alaska. Since the US bought the right to Govorn, Tax and Protect 'X' amount of Sq miles that Alaska is, they never received any title to the lands either, so in court it was taken down to who had unbroken ownership, and it was indeed the folks who lived here, in unbroken linage and legal citizens at that. This was proven in court and although they were given back only 10% of their original holdings, they set up "IRA"s Indian Reorganization Act over sight to the corporations that were formed to manage the lands that Tribes here own as "Common private property".the US Capitalistic way to deal with the lands, and moneys. Each Tribes member became "Shareholders" in the Corporation. Acting as Business, the Native Corporation My wife and kids belong to has been profitable, while some have not. The North Slope has oil and great profits and very small populations, so their Corporate Dividends can be large. The corporation my family belongs to is the Northwest Alaska Native Association "NANA" and they manage the lands she is a shareholder to. They keep Hunters Hunting, with Subsistence the main way of life they promote and protect. They do this by owning lands in common, and allowing few roads and no fences. They gave up huge tracts to National Monuments and Parks, wildlife refuges and such, in exchange that Hunting and fishing shall not ever be stopped in these places(remember, you cant hunt in Yellowstone and such) that way the Herds and vast habitat needed for life to continue as Inupiaq in Culture, the hunting and Fishing remains the mainstay up this way. The NANA Corporation is diversify and owns many smaller company's, but most of the $$ they make is with the Lead and Zink 'RedDog' mine and are the largest employers in the Borough, as well, the mine pays 89% of the Boroughs Tax's so they inadvertently fund the schools and roads, Search and Rescue, health projects like water and sewer get state Matching funds and the Tribes oversee the installations. Also, a large amount of $$ in invested into a Heath Consortium called Maniilaq Association, and they train EMT's, Health Aids and run clinics in each village for better health and emergency care as well as extended care for elders. "BUT" the real hospital is still 3 hours away at Anchorage.Even the largest clinic, in Kotzebue dosent do surgery, strokes, heart attacks and such, they just keep you alive till the jet gets you to Anchorage.

    Its been a few years since the NANA Corporation gave out profit sharing dividends, as they are recovering a bit from the last few years turndowns, and now just returning their profits into expansion of the Corporation and a new pit in the RedDog mine that will extend its production for 24-25 more years.
    If a kid has great grades and motivation, the Native Corp will help with secondary school costs anywhere in the country, and good grades get lots of help through collage. Bad grade get no help at all, but they will hire ya to shovel dirt or something......

    The State of AK and the Borough run the schools, the tax's from the mine buys the bonds that pay for these schools. Each student thats enrolled has a certain amount of $ allotted to the school that teaches them. I would guess that since the Camp Correspondence school was run by the NWAB School district, that they received the funds for the kids I had enrolled, no different than in a class room.

    I do believe in getting assistance when its necessary, like if both my legs or arms were broken, or I was in a Hospital and the kids need to eat, but once a person is up and moving, they can earn it. If someones receiving welfare and has kids, perhaps we need to help out and have them maintain passing grades as they learn some skills to get off assistance........I dont have the answers for that,but I do know that people who are busy are not drunk, on drugs or a burden to scociety. What sux is that Big Gov is burdening the workers and feeding the lazyness, as well as giving it away overseas, by the billons.....

    Belive it or not, Arbeit Macht Frei..................and not in the Cynical way the National Socialist Democrates ment it either ~~LOL!!~~
     
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  8. Redlg155

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    perhaps this has been answered already, but why a Mosin when other modern choices are available? Having owned several, I can attest to the accuracy of the weapon.
     
  9. caribou

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    Mosin Nagant......whats not to like?

    The M-39 is heavy, steady and brutally simple. Exceedingly accurate and a VERY positive safety, they are a pleasure to shoot, as the extra couple pounds so balance the rifle nicely. Aswell, the wood protects the hands from the steel barrel that generally freezes to your hands and pulls off skin, 1/2 the year. A very solid and robust rifle designed for our Tundra environment and simple maintenance

    The Finnish ones are some of the most accurate issue rifles ever. Probably only American issued rifles with our excellent ammo (as did the Finns) make for real "Rifleman" the soldier relying on Marksmanship while shooting instead of bayonet wielding masses surging forward at full charge, like the Russians donating More Mosin's to the Finn's


    Accuracy, reliability in deep cold and bulk ammo the wife buys, but maybe its a little more; the wife and I both used to collect them. LOTS of them from the 90's onward, but the last one she bought was a PU scoped one and the oldest daughter has 6-7, she even came home from Anchorage with an M-44, 'cause she didnt have one yet :D I sold most of mine and gave Agnes the real beauties, which got boxed and stored, and remain that way at her relatives.

    The only way to stop them is to get em wet at -20 and have the action freeze shut ~~LOL!!~~
     
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  10. Redlg155

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    Thanks for the reply! I'm hoping to get a Hex receiver 91/30 for Christmas.

    I spent a few years at CRTC/Ft. Greely near the town of Delta Junction and loved the place. Truth be told, I've been colder in Wewhitchka, Fl than I have ever been in AK.
     
  11. Lj1941

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    Load for 223 Remington

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    I saw Season 4 Episode 1 last night. I was impressed with the fact that your daughter Tinmiaq has a Mini 14 and harvested a caribou with it her 1st time out. I am wondering what load she was using. All or most of the "EXPERTS" say that a 223 Remington is only a small game and varmint caliber.You and I both know that shot placement is more important than the caliber. :evil:
     
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    I saw the Mini ??...are we sure it was a 14 and not a 30?
    Maybe it was mentioned on the show...I was half asleep.
     
  13. caribou

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    My daughter Tinmiaq uses Remington Soft points, 55 grain'ers I think, (Im not sure) but I saw the green an yellow boxes in the trash.

    Other than the two cameras views being show and effectively doubling the shots made, Tin was not at all used to the scope at 6 power, and did better when she lowered it to 2. The wife dropped one Caribou all right, and the main fusillade was at a wounded one who was behind ice, escaping all attempts at being done in till we crossed the river.It was double lunged, and the soft point did its job, but it wasnt quick to die, so the ladys shot at his head untill I called "No shooting".As blood loss over time does, it was dead when the camera and us arrived on the other side.

    Afterwards we had a good sighting in and more practise, as she bought herself that Mini-14 earlier that month for her birthday.

    The wife did well , as usual, a but none of us are one shot one kill types, thats just not reality in hunting.

    You might notice that with kids and guns around, we have "Shoot"- "Dont shoot" commands, so when "Shoot" is said, its becauseits clear and safe to shoot, not an order to, just a "fire at will" sorta thing. Just as important is getting everyone to "stop Shooting" and in a commanding voice as best as possible. Safety first!
     
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    Thank you for explaining the commands. I have had experience using 70 grain Speer hand loads for whitetail deer. It gives good performance and seems to hold together better than 55 grain projectiles. I am not sure whether it is offered in factory loads.
    Good luck with your legal problems. I too have experienced law enforcement lying against a family member resulting in a conviction.:(
     
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    I just read the entire thread over the last 2 days. Best of luck with your legal problems, the truth will come out and you will be fine. I bet you can't wait to be able to shoot again!

    I love the show! it is my favorite show on tv. I haven't watched any of this season because it is deer season here and I spend Thursday and Friday at the deer camp. (I have got 3 deer so far this year! which is great for around here lol)

    I find your show to have the least drama and it seems to be the most realistic of any I watch. Keep it up and thank you for sharing so much of your life. sometimes I wish I could've moved up there 10 years ago to give that life a try.

    with all your praise to the mosin nagant I am looking to buy one now to try out.

    does your wife make any of the fur lined gloves to sell? I would love to buy a pair for our 2 months of winter lol.
     
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    Chip

    Saw last nights show and REALLY got a laugh from you cutting yourself [ I bet you know why ] and they say a knife is not yours ---- till it bites you.

    Sadly I see way too many misses by shooters on the whole show.

    I know its not "always" one shot = one kill,but wish it happened more often.

    Of course I do understand that the actual events might not be as pictured ---- directors etc.

    I have been away from here as I made comments about another and got spanked.

    I feel VERY strongly about that subject ,so I will just 'lurk' to keep out of trouble.
     
  17. caribou

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    Well Scatty, that knife was as sharp as the guy who sent it to me :D It was so sharp (and kept that way), I had to look twice to be sure I had cut myself:eek:

    Seagull eggs are 3 X's as large as a chickens and taste exactly the same. Orange yolks though. We collect them all for 3 days inna row and then leave them alone and they all still raise clutches.
    We oil them with Wesson vegtable oil (no stink later) and peel back the tundra and place the eggs close to permafrost and put the moss back atop. A tripod over top and a piss a few yards away marks them for us and the animals that come along. They keep all summer and we use them like chicken eggs any ol' way.


    "I know its not "always" one shot = one kill,but wish it happened more often."

    You have a deep understanding in that statement Scatty, we dont like such either, but sometimes things go wrong and theres something to deal with.

    If theres any indication from the posts Ive made here over the years, is that the ladys were not doing all the shooting before me being framed for the felonys (got an e-mail? PM me, Ill send a retrial brief, and you can read exactly what happened) It was me, and the one talent I had in life was good shooting skills. The wife and daughters were there and assaulted, so they know I didnt lie a bit and they know I was framed, for the last two years have stepped up and gave it their best, but they certainly are not the best shots, but they keep trying. Tinmiaq has alot to learn, and that process is filmed.

    The show a couple weeks back wasnt something we take pride in, but it wasnt something unusual, a shot Caribou that keeps on Going......if you saw it, the daughters were picking greens when up popped a few Caribou and the daughter took a try and made hits with her Mini-14, as plainly seen on the show, but one passed through the lower sternum and a leg, missing the heart, the other took out the rear lungs butthe bullet disintegrated into pieces by the second lung doing minimal damage and no exit hole to bleed out, and although it was certain to die, it was not a quick kill. Placement is everything! Too bad the camera were filming me one place and Agnes at another, then. The connections Tin made with the .223 Sp's just not quite right.
    Nat Geo put out a condensed version of a 4 mile run around on Tundra,a hard to show a 2 mile up hill chase, up and back down a hill, onto an ice island in a lake and they ladys throwing rocks to get it to land, then a run around a fair sized lake to the side of the deep icy creek the Caribou had left the ice on....... Its no problem with our open tundra to track and spot animals, none get away, but sometimes they go pretty damn far......it was an hours+ walk back to camp with that load.
    What made me smile is that Agnes picked up her Seal rifle, the PU scoped Mosin, and its scope set for 300 yards....so she put on her stalk, got as close as she could, put the post on the Caribou's head and .........missed..........right under its head with that high mounted PU, so her second shot was ducking the scope and putting the second try where it was needed. She has never fired that rifle at anything less than 200 yards, even sighting in, so she learned something there.......Alot of running wasnt shown, but the mushy walking, hard breathing and sweating was not an easy walk without caseing Caribou...., and thats the reality in it all. Other than seeingthe example and what the were told before, No one told the kids that they must do what they did when things go bad. One came back and got mom, the other 4 kept on the animal and outflanked it, turning it back down the hill and holding fire because of the scattering of people around. all trying to get to the same Caribou. If you do anything long enough, such will happen. Most guys dont get it on film for the world, and Ive actually never seen a hunting show on TV that shows a difficult catch like those ladys had. If I put my foot down, we could have had that not shown at all, but were dedicated to the real deal, good show or bad.


    Fact is out of all our Caribou, most are shot and die quickly, but they really want to show difficulty, and the wounded ones can be, Id say Nat Geo wanted what they got in an inadvertant way..... The women are not trained snipers, and so they tend to do chest shots, useing the Mosins on the lungs, as the front shoulders and heart are prime foods and the lungs large targets, we dont eat them and some ribs being ruined isnt much, compared to a soft point blowing a front leg bloody.......and the animals all take time to die, unless shot in the brain/cirvical spine........... and Nat Geo is actually willing to show the process, but it is hard to show a 2 mile chase up and back down a hill, onto an ice island in a lake and they ladys throwing rocks to get it to land, the cameras running across Tundra and filming led to about 10 hard falls for them........ Its no problem with our open tundra to track and spot animals, none get away, and the animals are never interested in being killed, so they tend to try and get away......blood on snow is even easier to follow.
    Since that show, I have been contacted by at least 600+ trained 'snipers' who only make one shot kills.As well, its been interesting being contacted by Twice the number of guys who have been hunting all their lives and only shoot "Bang -Flops", and always had a deer die in less than 3 seconds, hunting year round in the wilds of Conneticut and such all their lives..
    Even in Montana, as a kid, I never saw such. I learned tracking by haveing to track, and although most Elk and Deer we shot only went 50-100 yards at most, there were those few exceptions, and still me and dad got every one of our animals. Such happens.

    What wasnt shown is that Tinmiaq, who made the hits, chased and turned the Caribou that was cleaned up by mom, didnt shoot anymore Caribou with the mini, she bought an "shooter" M-38 Mosin ( the one in her collection is too pristine) from a school teacher and has found the "Power!" that Hunting on Tundra requires.

    Wait untill a couple episodes down the road where were hunting and score pretty big with no guns at all :D
     
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    Wondering why your daughter purchased the mini-14 in 223? Wouldn't one in 308 made more sense. Personally have never understood the 223 craze. Not that it isn't a deadly round, just that it has serious limitations when it comes to larger game.

    As someone who keeps bandaids handy at all times in the field, I have gotten more careful as I have gotten older. Still the CSI team would find my DNA on just about all the tools and equipment I own. That said, being out in the bush as you guys are, what kind of first aid stuff do you pack?
     
  19. scaatylobo

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    Great post Chip

    Thank you for a VERY informative post Chip.

    Covered SO much !.

    I am very surprised that the women do not actually outshoot the menfolk = really.

    teaching shooting [ mostly handgun ] it has been my experience that if a woman wants to shoot,they are usually better shots than men as they don't get their ego entangled up in the art of hitting what they are aiming at :banghead:,as most men do.

    Glad you kept that big butt blade sharp !!,thanks for the compliment too.

    And as mentioned,what do you carry out doors for first aid [ might be more than FIRST AID needed too ? ].

    I ALWAYS have a few bandaids in the pocket :banghead:,skin got thinner as I aged.

    But in the woods I carry clotting agent AND real bandages.

    btw = I too have a Mosin 38 and its a killer,hope to see your daughter taking LOTS of game !.

    The 5.56 is NOT a round I would take to your AO,and I happen to be a fan of that round when its for thin skinned critters.
     
  20. caribou

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    For First aid.......We carry knowlage, experiance and extensive first aid at camp and kits in our day packs and they are mandatory in the boat box, among other things....... nearly everything but a back board or IV's.

    I am a lapsed EMT-1, a current ETT, and so is the wife, untill they find a trainer for our local EMS system. I used to be a Fire Chief, a Safety officer in our VFD, as well as an SnR trail rider who would get folks in crashes, but mostly pickups from crashed, broke down, over due stuff. 9 outta 10 have helped them selfs, the others die because even in Kotzebue, like the village clinincs, its only to buy you time to get you to a surgeon or specialists in burns/freezes, stroke , ect. a few hours away in Anchorage.
    The NWABorough would send us to any training, and we have always completed our courses and bring them back and teach others in the village at meetings and such. First aid training is done through every year in school here because the first ones there sre usually the best help youll get.

    The daughter buys what ever gun shes fancy's. She'll also go after animals, and give what she has a try. The mini came with a 6-9 scope and a 30 rd clip, both a little much for such a gun, but thats how she got it. I gave her 300$ for her birthday and she could have spent it on a million other things, but came home with that thing, and scored an Otter with it, so it followed her to camp and our Spring hunting... I am always recomending Leopold in a lower power and a 10 shot mag for slimness and better carryability, but I dont think she did get anything for it, I think shes lost interest in it a a camp rifle, 'cause when she took off commercial fishing for a couple months this summer, she bought other rifles, and I didint see her hunting with it this fall...... It's Great fur rifle though,and like her mom, she got a decent collection at her house, a gun for every occasion. She was noted at her high school graduation as the only one in school with an extensive gun collection:evil:. I think she filled out for a CnR license a couple weeks back, and shes talking about making her spare room into a sewing /gun room, ~~LOL!!~~ Little collector/investor there, she talks up investments and what she values there.
     
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    watched my first episodes yesterday

    LBZ was watched for the first time yesterday in our household. I feel like we have it easy. I thought the year I worked for the Indiana forrest service was rough. I was wrong. The dude crossing the stream several times with slush floating in the stream while building the bridge was entertaining. I have not read this entire thread. I will work on that.
     
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    My son and I watched your ladies standing tall on that hunt, their determination and tenacity were plain for all to see. I admire too their courage in showing this hard and wonderful part of their lives on the screen. You are creating a valuable document for us all.
     
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    Hunts may not turn out as expected, but this one by my Brother-in-Law did. This year his company paid a Dall sheep hunt for him in Alaska, B-I-L contacted the guide service and discussed shot distances and etc. I think him and my Son-in-Law sighted in the .308 Ruger American at 450 yards, when it came time to take shot at a standing ram, laser range finder showed 470 yards. Over his backpack he held just a little high, bullet just grazed the curl and entered it's left ear, ram dropped and never quivered.
     
  24. BBQLS1

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    600+ trained snipers? Hee hee.

    A dead animal can still run quite a ways before it expires... I've seen deer run well over 100 yards after the heart was destroyed. Of course I had one run 30 yards to my stand and lay down too. If it ain't a CNS shot, it's going to do what it feels like with the rest of the time it has on earth.

    CNS shots are not always practical and less guaranteed.

    Still enjoying the show!
     
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    Not sure if this has been asked and answered so I will post again.:)

    Does your family reload ammo at all?? I phrased it as "family" to avoid any legal stuff;)

    For the Mosin do you just use steel case ammo Wolff Tula whatever?
     
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