List of "shorter" 7mm 150gr bullets to load 284 win (std short action 2.800)

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If your not allowing the barrel to cool good between shots you will get scatter no matter what the load is. On pencil barrels They are normally good for 3 shots max before they starting shooting wildly. If the barrel is too hot to touch allow it too cool. The vertical shifts just tell me you have not found the node that your gun likes.
 
98s1lightning said:
H4350 (also a first time use)

Haven't chose other powders yet
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I'll follow-up asking that (since you haven't shot the rifle much) with the sierra, seated to 2.8(ish) what charge weights did you try? I suspect you haven't done a proper workup here.....And would you be willing to try a different powder if a quick loads user on here were to give you the data? (I won't hand out my own conclusions on powders in the right burn range but not tested by the powder manufacturer simply because they won't buy another barrel)
 
Blue68f100 said:
If your not allowing the barrel to cool good between shots you will get scatter no matter what the load is. On pencil barrels They are normally good for 3 shots max before they starting shooting wildly. If the barrel is too hot to touch allow it too cool. The vertical shifts just tell me you have not found the node that your gun likes.
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After I realized I may have heated barrel up, which I did. I let it cool more between 3 shot strings.

I need to spend more time testing.
 
horsey300 said:
I'll follow-up asking that (since you haven't shot the rifle much) with the sierra, seated to 2.8(ish) what charge weights did you try? I suspect you haven't done a proper workup here.....And would you be willing to try a different powder if a quick loads user on here were to give you the data? (I won't hand out my own conclusions on powders in the right burn range but not tested by the powder manufacturer simply because they won't buy another barrel)
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H-4350

48.0 gr
48.5
49.0
49.5
50.0
50.5 (thought this was the best)
51.0
51.5
52.0
52.5

I fired at least 2 of each, and more like 5 of the 50.5 charge along with the 50 and 51, because these were impacting target closest to where factory win super x ammo was
 
98s1lightning said:
You do realize I'm trying to duplicate factory ammo point of impact????
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horsey300 said:
I'd rather put up a 10 shot sub moa group and adjust my scope than do what you are attempting...... Just a thought
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Yes I realize...
However, I've never been able to not find a sweet spot that out shot factory ammo for precision, and usually, even if my velocities were close, I have to adjust scope, difference between factory and handloaded? I can always get more handloaded..... You're not the first nor the last to attempt this, but I stand by my point, there is fallacy in trying to match poi of a potentially beautiful combination to a factory load that may be out of stock, discontinued, or limited run, especially for such a niche cartridge. If you want to duplicate it, wait for a limited run of 150 spitzers with the win stamp from Graf's (or similar) and grab some 760 and call it good enough......or you can load up the best ammo that will ever fit that rifle and chuckle as you tell your grandchildren about it on their early hunting years, good luck either way bro.
 
horsey300 said:
Yes I realize...
However, I've never been able to not find a sweet spot that out shot factory ammo for precision, and usually, even if my velocities were close, I have to adjust scope, difference between factory and handloaded? I can always get more handloaded..... You're not the first nor the last to attempt this, but I stand by my point, there is fallacy in trying to match poi of a potentially beautiful combination to a factory load that may be out of stock, discontinued, or limited run, especially for such a niche cartridge. If you want to duplicate it, wait for a limited run of 150 spitzers with the win stamp from Graf's (or similar) and grab some 760 and call it good enough......or you can load up the best ammo that will ever fit that rifle and chuckle as you tell your grandchildren about it on their early hunting years, good luck either way bro.
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Ps, easy to dope that handloaded prints 1.75 moa left and .5 moa high of factory x ammo...
 
98s1lightning said:
You do realize I'm trying to duplicate factory ammo point of impact????
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Try using the same 150 grain powerpoint or whatever your factory load uses then.

I'd reccomend a 154 grain hornady interlock or a 160 grain speer hotcor. My speer data shows an OAL of 2.800" for the 160 with plenty of powder capacity. I see velocities on par with 280 remington loads using the same bullet with slightly more powder than the .280.
 
98s1lightning said:
What's your favorite all around deer bullet that's NOT premium priced
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Was the Sierra pro hunter, but there getting pricy. My get them cheaper on sale, there a member here that lives by Sierra and can get seconds. Tho there's not much savings.

For the money the Speer hotcor, 145 they will be the bullet in using next season for my 7x57 since I'm about our of the Sierra.
 
98s1lightning said:
I always thought the boat tail was a superior design.....areodynamically, but I'm not convinced of that
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Only past about 400 yards do the boattails out run the flat base, fb have a better bore seal and tend to shoot better. There's a reason that's all they use for bench rest that's no more the a few hundred yards.
 
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