Load for Remington Bronze Points?

[LightningMan]

Hello all, I have some 180gr. Remington Bronze Point bullets, and want to know if there is an accurate load (long range target shooting) for them in my AR-10/.308-7.62x51? I have no spicific data for that paticular bullet in any manual I have, so was hopeful someone here has used them with good results. I have several powders; IMR 4895, Hodgdon 4895, CFE 223, Ramshot TAC, & IMR 4064, but only a couple may be suitable for heavier bullets in .308 WIN cal. FWIW I can probably get others, as Rifle powder isn't as hard to find, like pistol powder is. Anyway, any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance. LM

 

[steve4102]

Use data for 180gr jacketed bullets.

 

[LightningMan]

Yeah steve4102 thats what I will do if I can't find anyone with actual experence loading these specific bullets. I only have 75 of these and don't want to waste a bunch working on a good accurate load. Not all 180 gr .308 bullets will shoot the same using the same powder charge. So if I could get a suggestion on what Bullet (Hornady, Speer, Nosler Sierra) comes close to the same style as these Remington Bronze points, then I'd start with data using those bullets. LM

 

[steve4102]

You are trying to take short cuts by using "Internet" data.

There is only one safe way to test your bullets.

Gather as much data as you can with bullets of same weigh and similar construction. The BP is a cup-n-core jacketed bullet.

Start Low ans Work Up, in Your rifle, it's the only way. Using data from my rifle may or may not be useful to you and your rifle.

Sorry, but that's the way it is.

 

[LightningMan]

steve4102 if not a short cut, just a starting point, or range in which to work with. I can and do usually work up a load starting with the start grain data and adding .4 to .5 tenths of grain per 5-10 rounds till I get near the max data. I start with the lowest charge with a crony setup to record velocity while shooting for accuracy. This is what I normally do when I have exact data, but this is different as I don't have exact data and have a limited number of rounds. So yeah if you want to call it a short cut so be it. The reason for the post was to get a little help here with some safe load data, so I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask. FWIW I've decided to just load them up with a charge (staying on the low side) that will fall into most any of my data manuals using a bullet of the same weight & shape, and just use them for plinking. Don't see any reason to waste time getting down a accurate load from bullets I will never see to buy again. LM

 

[bfoosh006]

The only data I have seen for Rem. real Bronze Points was in the old ( '80's ) IMR reloading manual.

I always just worked up data from other 150gr ( my bronze point weight ) for my M1A.

I would suggest the same thing for your 180gr BP bullets.

BTW, don't waste those bullets, they are designed for thin-skinned animals. And perform very well on the game they were designed for. And as such I wouldn't hesitate to use them for SD.

 

[jeeptim]

Hey Steve
Got hold of a bunch of 180 bronze Loaded em in a 30/06 with win 760 thinking just under 50gr. They were as accurate as could be. Not sure in .308.

 

[LightningMan]

Just posting to let anyone know that I loaded some rounds using those 180 gr. Bronze Points by using data from different brands of bullets, but of similar style, all 180 grains and using the same powder. I decided to go with IMR 4895 using 40.0 grains. My cases were Lake City, trimmed at 2.005 long, and using Winchester large rifle primers. Seated the bullets to hold my OAL to 2.805, and the 10 test loads cronographed an average of 2335 fps. with the high of 2351 fps. and the low of 2329 fps. a 22 fps difference between high & low. Sorry I didn't give them a real accuracy test as I just shot them from a table using a bipod, but they looked good on paper. LM