Loaded, GI, Milspec, or CZ75? Help me decide!

What should Dubious Buy?

  • Sprinfield 1911 Loaded Stainless

    Votes: 34 29.3%
  • Spring 1911 GI or Milspec Stainless + .22 Conversion or Buckmark

    Votes: 19 16.4%
  • CZ 75 9mm + .22 Conversion or Buckmark

    Votes: 53 45.7%
  • Unicorn Poop

    Votes: 10 8.6%

  • Total voters
    116
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I'm selling a gun for $700. I'm trying to decide how should I reinvest the cash. Please help! I've been leaning towards 1911s, but I've already got a 9mm subcompact and a .44 Redhawk, so I'm a little bit hesitant to leap into the .45 caliber world... another variety of kinda expensive ammo to keep around. I've got 9mm HP Golden Sabers and a Mossberg 500 for defense and .44 mag 310gr hardcast for deer and soviet zombie grizzly bears. About my particular situation: I'm more interested in shooting paper and bowling pins and geeking out on guns for their own sake than shooting defensively. Help me decide:

Door # 1. Springfield 1911 Loaded Stainless: I've had my Eye on a Springfield 1911 Loaded in Stainless for a long time. All the features, plus a match barrel to boot! However, this gun is expensive and overly flashy (but I do like stainless!). It will retain its value for a long time to come.

Door # 2. Springfield GI or Milspec + .22 Conversion or Buckmark: Maybe I should go for the the less fancy Springfield models, like the GI (+ new sights) or the Milspec Stainless. I'm sure these guns can shoot as well as I can, and I'm probably never going to go really shoot in a proper match. Then I should have enough cash left over to get a conversion kit or a Browning Buckmark .22 for more practical practice and plinking.

Door #3: CZ 75 9mm + 22 Conversion or Buckmark: Maybe I should just skip the 1911 and go get a nice steel cz75 in 9mm. This is a much more solid gun than my subcombat Taurus, and shares ammo compatability. I will still have enough cash left over for a .22 conversion or Buckmark.
 
If you like to tinker and get the most accurate and fun gun to shoot, get the milspec 1911 with a Marvel .22 kit.

The CZ-75 is more of a combat gun, and a CZ's trigger is way behind the 1911.

(edit: I have the CZ-75 with the Kadet .22LR conversion. I just don't think it compares with the 1911's trigger or accuracy. It is, however, boringly reliable in both 9mm and .22LR.)
 
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I voted "cz75 + 22 conversion" because that's what I'd like to get, when/if I get the money. :)
 
A word of warning: CZs are habit-forming, they also breed in the back of your range bag.

Having said that, the CZ75B is scary accurate with FMJ ammunition at the range of your choice. The SA trigger pull is nowhere like that of a 1911 design (what is, a 1911 is like breaking glass), but look on the bright side, the CZ75B can be carried cocked and locked like a 1911. The more you shoot the CZ75B, the better the trigger gets, as the surfaces hone each other. Depending on your source a brand new CZ75B can run you as low as $450 and as high as $625, depending on finish (there is a NICE Stainless Steel), brushed nickel, duo tone, blued or black polycoat. The Kadet .22lr conversion unit runs around $300 (when I got mine it was just under $175 in 1998). The Kadet unit will need just a hair of fitting to your frame, easily performed with a small file and some patience. I direct you attention to the www.CZForum.com and www.CZShooters.com for additional CZitis.
 
I've owned a Springer GI model and it's a great shooter. By the time you cut the Novak dovetail in the front and buy sights, you've invested much of the price difference of a Loaded.

I now have 2 Loaded's and the feature set you get is worth the difference in price for sure. Any of the ones you listed are fine choices, just look at the incremental cost of getting a basic gun where you want it to be...
 
Of those you listed, I would pick the Springfield Loaded (I did, actually). While I have a CZ (a P-01) that I am quite fond of, I wanted something a little different for my next pistol, and I decided on the Loaded Stainless. Great gun, and a lot of fun at the range. I added an arched mainspring housing and a GI-style recoil rod setup. I intend to get a .22LR conversion for it at some point. Here's mine:

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I voted for the CZ75 and the .22 kit.

With the price of ammo, you'll get alot more use out of that combo than you would getting a .45acp, but if you want to shoot pins, the 9mm won't get it done like a .45.
 
Loaded stainless. You'll have no regrets.

I agree with 8Ball. If you buy one of the others, you will still have lust in your heart for the SA Loaded Stainless.
 
I bought a NIB CZ 75B Stainless from DiscountGunDealer.com for $519. That's tough to beat. Nice gun. Haven't saved up the pennies for a Kadet kit yet. :)
 
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If you buy one of the others, you will still have lust in your heart for the SA Loaded Stainless.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :banghead:
 
here is my CZ-75 stainless with wood grips. I paid $535, came with two 16 round clips. The wood is not that orange looking, my digi cam really picked up the wood color way too much for some reason. I'm thinking to get either a Springfield Stainless, as what the previous poster posted up, or a SIG P220. Man, that stainless Springfield is sweet!!! I love the look of it. I'm really itching towards that as my .45 gun. Grrrrrrrrr.

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Dirkster: how much did you pay for your Loaded? My local gun shop qouted me $850 for the PX9151LP
 
you have created a wish list that will not go away. no matter what you buy the other guns will haunt your dreams. So my grandpa advice is work overtime, budget, save, have a yard sale, sell off some expendable "stuff" and get the CZ and the 45 and the 22
 
Holy smokes, THR! People are choosing the CZ 75 over the 1911s! :cool: I am pretty amazed... that was not my expectation on the poll.

Right now, I'm leaning heavily towards the springfield loaded now with a marvel .22 conversion kit in the not too far off future (Seems worth selling off another gun). Dirk, seriously nice photos!

Serv, that beautiful stainless CZ posted above is truly drool worthy. :p

Keep it coming guys... why should I get a CZ over a 1911? It is true, I'm invested in 9mm.
 
People like CZ because CZ works.

People are also voting for the CZ & a .22LR.

You'll find a lot of people have turned to shooting .22's lately.
 
Kind of O.T. but which is the least expensive springfield model that's still made in the U.S.?
 
Dubious

CZ and Springfield are both fine guns. For me, it would come down to $$$ and the type of guns I aready have. Since you have a 9mm semi-auto, maybe it would be best to to mix up your vairiety and go for a 1911. I'm in the same boat as you, I want to buy a .45 and can't decide if I want to stick with a CZ design (CZ-97 in .45) or go for a used SIG (P220) or the Springfield Stainless Loaded. Since I have a CZ already, I'm leaning towards going with a different design. It also helps that I'm going to be getting that free rebate check from the gov't soon ;) so the $$$ factor doesn't play all that much into the selection of the gun, however the price of .45 ammo does. Do I want to spend close to a grand on a .45 that will be only a range gun and maybe see action 2 times a month, at the range? Ammo prices are not going to go down in the next 5 years.
 
I went with the loaded. Cost was $669 + tax.
 

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Door # 1. Springfield 1911 Loaded Stainless: I've had my Eye on a Springfield 1911 Loaded in Stainless for a long time. All the features, plus a match barrel to boot! However, this gun is expensive and overly flashy (but I do like stainless!). It will retain its value for a long time to come.

I was in the same boat about a month ago and in between door #1 and #2. I went with the loaded and am glad I did for the simple fact of knowing I wanted it for over a year and kept watching the price go up.

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I have a CZ and I say 1911. I think it's a better range and tinkering gun with a better trigger.
 
CZ fits. 9mm and .22 are less expensive than any other pistol ammo. Ammo is more expensive all the time.

That's the combo I have -- CZ75, .22 Ruger.
 
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