Local paper finally gives reason why they posted the list of CCW holders

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"dilbert, et al;
Well, I've attempted to answer. You just haven't liked the answer, so you keep coming up with your own -- we did it because "we can" for instance -- and repeating it over and over as if it'll become true. But it doesn't make you any less wrong now than when you started.
The reason you don't hear the answer is because it doesn't fit into the neat little conspiracy you worked up. There's no conspiracy and no agenda. The whole issue is that the paper published a list with some of your names on it and you objected, so you're angry. Understandable.
The reason it was published along with the article was because the article was about the lists. The lists illustrated the subject of the article, and provided a searchable database for people to report those listed who had passed away and had not been removed from the list. That occurred. One name was on the list despite being dead for 12 years. Another Westchester person is in jail in a cop killing. A Rockland gun owner died on 9/11 and is still there.
The publication of the list prompted people to call in and report that the names still appeared there. After the list was published people called. After. And since the purpose of the article was to point out that clerks don't keep the list current, publication of the list served its purpose.
Now, you may think it was a stupid reason, and perhaps even a dangerous one, if that is what you believe. I'd disagree. You might even think that the ends did not justify the means. Fine. But cut the conspiracy theories, because it wasn't part of the formula.
If you didn't keep casting it all in the context of some "liberal media" master plan to strip gun owners of their rights, you might actually accomplish something and hear the answer. Because if such a conspiracy exists, it elluded me when I wrote the articles. Sounds a tad paranoid to me, and makes me wish someone would go back to addressing and debating the issue in the context of the real world and the actual issues.
So why don't we agree that you will continue to have the discourse with yourself and believe your own answers and keep answering your questions for me, and everyone will be happy. I'll leave you to it.
And, frankly, not as many people complained about the lists being published as you suggest, certainly nowhere near even a tenth of the 30,000 you keep referring to. But whether you appreciate it or not, I have been responsive to anyone who did complain, because I took it on myself. It doesn't matter what you or this RUSH person say, I will continue to be responsive to those who are reasonable in their objections. That would exclude you guys, of course. Again, one can hope."


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http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061210/NEWS01/612100348/1018
 
and provided a searchable database for people to report those listed who had passed away and had not been removed from the list. That occurred. One name was on the list despite being dead for 12 years
Man that was a crisis averted.

And a bit fat lie.
 
I clicked on that article, and the whole thing reads like a rambling, disjointed, mess. If it demonstrates anything, it's that all the government record keeping concerning firearms is a complete waste of time and money.
Marty
 
Nothing like a half assed excuse.

If that was the legitimate reason, then I would have to ask if they informed anyone before they published the list or even when they published the list.

Anyone know if they said that before they published the list?
 
The all they wanted to do was point out the "poor record kepping", they could have PUBLISHED THE ONES WHO DIED, and left the rest alone.
"The Florida list keepers still have John Smith on the CCW list, after he died, and Joe Blow, who is doing time now. Other legitmate CCW permit holders we won't list, and we call on the Florida list makers to pull thier heads out."
 
If it demonstrates anything, it's that all the government record keeping concerning firearms is a complete waste of time and money.
Marty
The data base, as published in the paper, was rather disjointed. I had to put my name in several different ways before success - and it was my full name (middle, too) in my city before the record popped up. There is a lot of "local abbreviation" in the data base. My city was abbreviated 5 different ways (as I remember).

I just hope that no NP (nasty person(s)) copied and pasted pages from the files.

VCDL members and many others piled on - the response of all was amazing - and it turned the tide... so far. This is one file that should be closed to "public" vagaries.
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Sorry to bump this back up to the top but I think the guy who wrote this article might have finally lost it

"Tell you what: I'll actually adhere to the rambling wishes of 928RUSH and disappear from this string. I'll take a vote of 10 of you who would rather I not respond to this anymore, and I won't bother and let you all have your way without interruption and without further input. It's called democracy.
RUSHy can FOIL me and track me down and spray paint my front lawn or whatever else he does on his spare time when people don't blindly agree with him. I'll let it go and accept that my "job" doesn't include trying to answer questions on this topic on these forums. Heck, there are plenty of other strings on the forums and plenty of other stories I've worked on and am working on. I'll see some of you there, no doubt.
So, I'll count dilbert and the RUSHarooney as two votes against me. That leaves 8. I figure RPF and SCO. That's 6 left. You're almost there guys. Slidecutter? So close. Milsrup? Almost there.
Seriously, no hard feelings. We're not seeing the common ground I found with some of you at the start, so there really is little point. The discourse some of us had turned into a rant by some. I'll be responsive on other strings. Hope those are discussions rather than battles.
You're 4 votes shy. I'm sure you can make it up."
 
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