Varminterror
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Varminterror said:Run, hide, fight.
Yep, it's not just for active shooter.
Also very applicable when my wife beats me to the mailbox on gun-stuff-delivery days...
Varminterror said:Run, hide, fight.
Yep, it's not just for active shooter.
I for one couldn't agree more Murf ......2 weeks ago a family member and myself were shooting clays, then we went to the dueling trees on the pistol range at 22 yds, after mixing it up there with the 9mm, 45acp,and 44 mag revolvers , we took them to the rifle range 200 yds, and 300 yds, and the steel pig on the hill at 340 yds.. we have been doing this a lot lately and it's a blast , the thought of having to go up against a rifleman is a chilling thought , and if it happens I don't want to be blind..........Take Care Murf .....BB....suggest you get confident shooting your pistol as far out as you can at a man-sized target. you never know when you will get stuck with that pistol in a rifle fight.
mastering your gun at 50 yards is a fine idea. that will make shots at 25 yards a piece-of-cake.
luck,
murf
Jerry miculek ..made a 1000 yd shot with a 929 9mm if I remember correctly.........I've been thinking about this thread a good bit since I posted a response a day or so ago. Here's what I've come to realize. We can hash all of this out for endless hours, but the truth is, there is no absolute or perfect way to practice for self defense that would cover all situations that may arise. There are many factors that would come into play in a true life situation that you just cannot prepare for like nerves, noise, being around people, moving targets, etc. Nerves may be the hardest thing to prepare for. There are tons of documented cases of cops who were classified as marksman that couldn't hit a human size target at 7-10 yards in the heat of battle. I know a guy real well that can shoot 2" groups at 200 yards with his deer rifle but can't hit a deer at 100 yards. "Buck fever" gets him every time. Noise can play a huge factor. While I would never recommend shooting without ear protection, everyone should shoot at least 4-5 shots with no hearing protection just to see what your gun sounds like. Its nothing like you hear with your muffs in place. The surprise "loud bang" the first time you shoot could totally mess up a self defense situation if it catches you by surprise. There are just so many different factors that you can't practice for. My suggestion and you can take it or ignore it, is to know your sd gun inside and out. Know what you can do with it and what you can't do. Should you practice at long range? Certainly. The better you are at long range, the better you are a short range. Practice different positions. One thing I don't do is practice with my weak hand nearly enough. I always remember the quote I think was made by Ben Hogan referring to gold, but it goes with shooting as well. "The more I practice, the luckier I get". You can't practice too much, but first find a gun that you shoot accurate. A magnum caliber might be the worst choice you can make. If you can't hit what you are shooting at and at the same time can't make follow up shots accurately and fast, then you probably have the wrong gun. Sorry for the long ramble, but this thread has got me thinking and I am going to change the way I practice. I hope and pray I never have to put a gun in my hand to protect myself or someone else, but if the situation does come about, I will know what I am capable of doing and what I can't.
Exactly.Like others I too find that at the longer distances trigger squeeze issues are more pronounced & that long range practice helps improve shooting at shorter distances. After you destroy a tennis ball at 60 yards a 25 yard target feels like a piece of cake.
I practice at 7, 10 and 15 yards.
IMHO, long range practice can be bad if it slows you down and causes you to start using "target" rather than combat sight picture and trigger control.
I wholeheartedly agree about the fun / challengeing thing .......But I disagree on the odds thing.....I do not practice at longer range in case of self defense, I practice/shoot at longer ranges because it is fun/challenging, and it will make you a better shooter up close.
If it is long range, you are not in a self defense situation, the odds are about a billion to one someone will be shooting at you with a rifle from long range. And if they are, your best option is cover/ leaving the vicinity.
Exactly.
Jerry miculek ..made a 1000 yd shot with a 929 9mm if I remember correctly.........
Always wear hearing protection Eddie , anyone who has been to a range knows how loud guns are with and without hearing protection, permanent damage will occur....
I wasn't recommending that anyone shoot regularly without hearing protection, but at least once you should try a combat situation and get the feel of a gun going off without protection.
I really hurt my hearing 40+ years ago shooting skeet every weekend with no protection. I even wear protection these days when shooting .22's. But everyone should know what their sd gun sounds like so in a case of sd, you won't be shocked by the difference in the sound.
This. Lots of buildings, or other places with insufficient cover for 50, or 200 yards. You don't need to "master" any distance, but just know how far away you can hit a man-sized object, under what circumstances. Then, if you must defend yourself in that, you don't go "oh, noes! I only practices to 7 yards, better wait till they close."suggest you get confident shooting your pistol as far out as you can at a man-sized target. you never know when you will get stuck with that pistol in a rifle fight.