Looking at 10mm Glock ?

[fxstchewy]

I am debating a 10mm Glock 20SF for a deer hunting weapon but...i don't want to shoot alot of 10mm so would you recommend a 20 and a barrel to shoot .40 or a 21 with a barrel to shoot 10mm with? the gun will be shot a fair amount but just not with 10mm.
I am also debating just using a GP100 with a 6" barrel...ideas? Thanks.

 

[Skribs]

If your only purpose is hunting, the GP-100 would be fine. However, if you plan to use that weapon for defense as well, I like the capacity of a 10mm auto better.

If you want to switch back and forth in the larger frame compatible with 10mm, I'd suggest getting a G21. I figure if you want a .40 S&W, you would be better suited with the smaller grip in the G22. Just my personal opinion.

 

[WestKentucky]

Go with the revolver. The sights are much more user friendly, but don't buy a gp100 because everybody talks about it. I had one that was terrible due to oversized bore, ruger didn't offer a fix because it wasn't a "malfunction" buy a revolver based upon the action and the way it feels in your hand. If you feel like Dirty Harry your going to shoot like the Ateam. If you feel stable enough to pull off a 100 yd shot you probably can.

 

[MIL-DOT]

I had one several years back, I traded into it, and it was a deal, so I figured what the hell.
But, IMO, it was big, awkward, un-ergonomic, and I put it back into circulation. Ammo is sparce and expensive. The 10mm thing has come and gone, simply put, there are better options.
Now, my 6" stainless GP100 may be my very favorite handgun I own, I mean I just love that thing. It was the gun that started my revolver kick of the past few years, and every one of my freinds that has fired it raves about it as well.
Back during The Great Assault Weapons Panic of '08, I sold a Romanian AK (for a "fair" price ) and that evening, on the way to my weekly poker game, went and bought the GP100 I'd been slobbering over, and had a good bit of money left over. The lock-up on it is so tight, if it were any tighter it'd would be a Python (no kidding). The trigger is fantastc. I put a Hogue exotic wood (pau ferro? coco bolo?) grip on it, and it looks as good as it shoots.
I do love me some Glocks, but a polymer gun over some 'merican steel wheelguns? Nah....

 

[Skribs]

Mil-Dot, what better options are there to get the combination of power and capacity that you can in 10mm?

I realize that .40 S&W does most of the job 10mm does, especially for CCW, but I find it hard to believe that the 10mm is completely obsolete.

 

[Deaf Smith]

See if you can grip and shoot the 10mm glocks before buying.

It is a rather LARGE grip.

Deaf

 

[judgedelta]

If you don't want to shoot a lot of 10 mm, something else would probably be better. 10 mm is great fun and if you look on the 10 mm forums, the round is not nearly as dead as some would lead you to believe. It is great if you reload,expensive if you don't. The new gen4 guns without the additional back-straps are the same size as the old short frame models, but a double stack 10 is as wide as a .40 and a little longer; it is a handful...

 

[agtman]

If you don't want to shoot a lot of 10mm, something else would probably be better. 10mm is great fun and if you look on the 10mm forums, the round is not nearly as dead as some would lead you to believe. ***

Agree, but for some people the 10mm is just not a wrist-friendly round to shoot regularly or EDC with.
Ya think it has to do with that "donkey kick" recoil thing they talked about way back in the '80s? ...

Maybe that's also why it's the only pistol cartridge I'm aware of that carries a government-mandated warning for potential users:

 

[G29SF]

I am a HUGE 10mm fan. Anyone who thinks the .40 S&W is comparable to a full-power 10mm round is simply uneducated.



Having said that, the kick/wrist thing is largely overblown. Proper hold/mechanics deals with it easily. It's not a S&W 500!



All mainstream factory loads are weak. A few not-well-known manufacturers (like Underwood) make full power loads.



If you are a reloader, the 10mm should be one of your calibers. Starline makes new brass and bullets are simply .40 cal. Nothing is hard to come by -- except for the general shortage taking place.

 

[jmr40]

I'm a big 10mm fan. But for your uses a 6" or longer barreled 357 or 44 is a better choice.

I own a G-20. It is an inch shorter and 3/4 lb lighter than my 3" Smith 629. From barrels 4" and shorter magnum revolver rounds get no where near advertised velocities and the real numbers from the 10mm beat 357 loads and come darn close to 44 loads. I view my 10mm as a dual purpose gun suitable for SD against either human or large animal attack at close range. It is my camping/hiking gun in bear country.

But when you shoot magnum loads from longer barrels and get the full potential they take power to another level not obtainable in 10mm. Especially the 44 mag. The longer sighting radius, better overall sights and better trigger mean better accuracy at ranges longer than SD situations would need.

If looking to use it primarily as I use mine, with the rare hunt, A 10mm Glock could be used as long as you recognize its range limitations. But if hunting is the primary use I'd skip right over 357 and go straight to 44 mag.

 

[Weevil]

See if you can grip and shoot the 10mm glocks before buying.

It is a rather LARGE grip.

Deaf

Same size grip as a .45.

But yeah the big Glocks are a handful.

That's why I picked up a G29 SF. The SF models are shorter from front to back and have a much better feel than the older models.

Last I heard Glock was dropping the non-SF Gen 3 10mm/45 models. Only SFs and Gen 4s.

 

[fxstchewy]

For SD i have more than a few that work, Glock 23,19,30S,17 and 26 and i also have a xd45 and 1911 in semi's, in revolver's i have a 4" GP100, SP101 and NM Blackhawk in 45acp/45lc.
probably use the 10mm for Deer hunting at close range just like bow hunting so round count really does not matter, I could probably just use my 4" GP100 or my Blackhawk in 45lc.
The 10mm is interesting but don't know if i really need another caliber to keep up with and my LGS has a Blued GP100 with a 6" barrel that looks like it needs a home.

 

[Weevil]

This isn't the ideal time to start a new caliber.

10mm ammo is always expensive and fat chance of getting much anywere but the internet. It really is a reloaders round and right now getting brass for 10mm is no easy task.

Unless you reload and are sitting on a pile of 10mm brass I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[horsemen61]

I love me some 10mm I find it to be awesome when properly loaded

 

[tarosean]

Blackhawk in 45lc.

I'd choose that one... You can load it up to 44mag. 10mm cannot really touch it in the higher bullet weights.

 

[tarosean]

This isn't the ideal time to start a new caliber.

10mm was about the only ammo I could find consistently throughout the past years ammo shortage..

 

[Weevil]

Not here, I haven't seen any 10mm on a shelf anywhere in many moons.



Online yeah but nowhere brick and mortar.

 

[Skribs]

I am a HUGE 10mm fan. Anyone who thinks the .40 S&W is comparable to a full-power 10mm round is simply uneducated.

I don't think it's comparable to a full-power 10mm round. However, it is comparable to most loadings of it, and in a smaller package. For most handgun users, the .40 S&W will do the job just as well but in an easier-to-grip setting.

For SD i have more than a few that work, Glock 23,19,30S,17 and 26 and i also have a xd45 and 1911 in semi's, in revolver's i have a 4" GP100, SP101 and NM Blackhawk in 45acp/45lc.
probably use the 10mm for Deer hunting at close range just like bow hunting so round count really does not matter, I could probably just use my 4" GP100 or my Blackhawk in 45lc.
The 10mm is interesting but don't know if i really need another caliber to keep up with and my LGS has a Blued GP100 with a 6" barrel that looks like it nneds a home.

When you're out hunting, are you going to carry the G23 and your hunting pistol? Because in the wilderness you have to worry about 4-legged predators in addition to 2-legged, unlike in the city where there's mainly 2-legged predators.

With that said, I think in your situation I would jump on that blued GP100. You obviously like Glocks and Ruger revolvers, so you already know what you're getting into with each brand.

If you already have 5 glocks and a few other semi-autos, and you go the G20 route, I wouldn't bother getting it in another caliber, because you already have glocks available in other calibers. I'd prefer .40 S&W in a G23 than a G20.

 

[SDGlock23]

It's simple, forget the 10mm. The GP100 is a better choice of those you mentioned, which isn't to take anything away from the 10mm, but really you DO NOT NEED a 10mm to hunt deer, and the .357 Mag is plenty. You mentioned that you had a G23, a G30S and a few 1911's and an XD45, and guess what? Those will kill a deer every bit as dead as a 10mm will, many over think it when it comes to deer, you simply already have guns that will work very well.

 

[SDGlock23]

I am a HUGE 10mm fan. Anyone who thinks the .40 S&W is comparable to a full-power 10mm round is simply uneducated.

I agree with your post that 10mm recoil isn't bad, because it isn't. But the quoted part above I have issue with. I've loaded a LOT of 10mm over the years and a LOT of .40, and I'm saying the .40 is absolutely comparable and I'm certainly not uneducated. I know what a warm 10mm will do, which is over 1,350 fps with 180gr from a G20 4.6" or a little over 1,450 fps from a 6" barrel, but a .40 can be loaded warmly too.

From a 4" .40 I can load a 180gr JHP to 1,225 fps, that's from a G23. The same load from a 5.3" G35 will run near 1,300 fps. If that's not comparable to the 10mm, what is? It's not the same as "max" 10mm from a long tube, but it's comparable for sure. From longer tube (6") .40, it's easy to break 1,350 fps with a 180gr .40 S&W, even 1,400 fps.

There is no point to me saying any of this except to say this, it's easy to be uneducated about the .40 vs 10mm when you don't have the experience and base your knowledge off what you hear from the internet.

 

[G29SF]

Full 10mm runs 200gr @1325 fps.

 

[fxstchewy]

I think i am going to look at the 45lc in a 255 load or the GP100 in a 180gr from BB, i shoot the GP100 pretty good so if i get a Glock 20 it will be a fun gun till i get used to it. Thank's for all the advice.

 

[hentown]

I'm not the most experienced Glock guy on the forum, but I have fired more than 300,000 rounds through my Glocks.

I own a G21 and a G20, as well as a G29. Should probably sell the G29, as my daily carry is a G26, and I don't feel undergunned.

The G21-to-10mm conversions are not reliable. However, the G20-.40 S&W conversions are reliable. If I hunted deer with a handgun, I wouldn't hesitate to use my G20. Glocks handle recoil better than most designs. I just don't find the recoil of my G20 to be too bad.

Practically, however, I'd have to agree that 10mm is a reloader's round. If I didn't reload, I wouldn't shoot 10mm. If you do reload, then you don't need to screw around with the .40 conversion; you just load your 10mm milder for plinking purposes.

 

[Deaf Smith]

Same size grip as a .45.

But yeah the big Glocks are a handful.

That's why I picked up a G29 SF. The SF models are shorter from front to back and have a much better feel than the older models.

Last I heard Glock was dropping the non-SF Gen 3 10mm/45 models. Only SFs and Gen 4s.

Love to find a 29 SF and try it out.

I used to own a 29, but it was a bit to big in the grip for me.

Deaf

 

[G29SF]

I have a G20SF and a G29SF. Are Gen 4s out for the 10s yet? If so, does their replaceable back-straps make the SF designs obsolete? I would think so. I am interested in the Gen 4 models.



I also like the G30S model. Wish Glock would make a 10mm version.