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What about a 10mm

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by ChiBears, Dec 12, 2006.

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  1. ChiBears

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    I have been debating between a 45ACP and a 40 for a little while now. My buddy wants me to get a 40, so I can reload with him. I was going to get a 45...because, well...I don't know!..I guess I thought it would be more accurate at the range...who knows!

    I recently thought...what about a 10mm?
    I would love to be able to take it out to the woods with me.

    For those of you who have a 10mm...How do they shoot?...compared to say the recoil and snap of a .40? Is it easy to get back on target quickly?

    I am thinking of maybe a Glock 20 in 10mm?!?

    Thanks for the input.
    Sam
     
  2. Walkalong

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    1911 in .45, but I'm biased. Then get a 10 later.
     
  3. gudel

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    Get USP45. 10mm is not easy to find, and very limited.
     
  4. Reed1911

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    Please explain that. There are 10mm pistols easy to find all over, from 1911 style to polymer style, DA/SA, adj sights etc.....

    10mm ammo is easy to find just about most places, not as easy as .45 or 9mm, but not hard at all.

    Limited?! to what nearly 30% more power than the .45ACP, downloaded to powder puff loads, more bullet options , more powder options than the .45 and .40.

    Get the 10mm, it has more support now than ever before and is growing by the day. You'll not be disappointed
     
  5. UglyGlock

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    check out http://10mmtalk.com/

    those of us that have 10s love 'em.

    if you are considering a .40 S&W you can get a .40 barrel for almost any 10mm, and have a very versital platform.

    .40S&W and 10mm both use the same dies, same shell holder, and same bullets. for reloading, the only difference will be the depth of the die, the size of the primer, the case, and of course the ammount/type of powder you can/should use.
     
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  6. Skywarp

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    Alot of gun stores here in Cali carry 10mm, with the internet you can get 10mm delivered to your house in days.

    Almost every store I've been to that is serious about slinging glocks has a Glock 20.


    Aside from that you're talking about reloading. The 10mm is easy to reload with a huge amount of bullet selection and wide varieties of powder choices.

    It has the power of the 357 magnum in bigger bullets and a massive capacity in the Glock 20. Get a KKM 6" barrel with full support and some Hi skor 700 and you start seeing some amazing stuff
     
  7. the pistolero

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    If you're gonna reload, then by all means buy a 10mm. Maybe two or three if you can afford them. :D You can load it down to .40S&W levels if you like, or up to low-end .41 Magnum levels. So far the only 10mm I have is the Kimber Stainless Target II, but 15+1 rounds of 10mm goodness that the Glock 20 offers does sound mighty appealing for my future!
     
  8. mljdeckard

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    20 years ago, the 10 mm was the great new hope. There is a lot of buzz about it making a comeback. My grandmother still thinks Betamax is making a comeback. I think most (all) of the buzz about the comeback is from people who already have one. (Like my grandmother.)

    The 10 mm is all they say it is. But it was all that 14 years ago too when the .40 violently pushed it off the table. What has changed recently that makes it a better option now?

    Yes, you can order full-house 10 mm loads to be delivered to your house in days, BUT WHY SHOULD YOU HAVE TO?

    I have my 1911, and if I really want it to overlap into 10 mm power range, I can put in a .400 Corbon barrel, and load my own from .45 ACP brass.
     
  9. Reed1911

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    Well while your Grandmother may see the future, no one makes the Beta format anymore so..... On the otherhand more and more gun makes are coming out with 10mm guns both pistol and carbine,.

    Recoil is the exact reason why full power loads are not on the shelf, the FBI complained that the 10mm had too much recoil and did not want to loose thier investment in pistols, so major makers complied with the demand for softer loads. Now on the .400 CorBon you can equal the soft 10mm load true, but you'll never be able to load higher than that, and less bullet weights to choose from.
     
  10. gudel

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    The ten is dead. Some just refuse to deal with reality. I think there's a place for this, is called asylum. :D

    Stick with the 45, and get the HK while you're at it; don't get the jamomatic.
     
  11. doofus

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    That depends on how you look at it. Is the 10mm prevalent enough to be a good choice for a SHTF weapon? Probably not. But finding both 10mm pistols and ammo is an easy Google away; it'll likely be around for years to come.
     
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  13. UglyGlock

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    It's only mostly dead. good thing it's not all the way dead.

    surely, the 10 is much less dead than .45GAP or .357sig.
    it's a lot easier to find 10mm in stores than either of the above, and you also won't find any .45super or .400 cor-bon or .38super for sale down at the local smokes, booze, ammo, and gas stop.

    it's true that the 10mm isn't for everyone, but the news of its demise is greatly exagerated.
     
  14. atblis

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    Here's my take

    Because you are going to reload, that makes the 10mm a far better choice. Also, you can get a 40SW barrel no problem for a 10mm.

    If you want the biggest and baddest (normal production) auto pistol cartridge, you want a 10mm

    If you want a versatile cartridge that you can plink, hunt, and defend your family with, you want a 10mm

    If you want something to play with handloading, you want a 10mm

    If you want something unique and interesting to show off at the range, you want a 10mm (supposing this is important to you).

    Reloading costs are about the same as 40.

    Dies are the same.
    Same bullets (majority of the cost)
    More powder (good thing really)
    Brass costs are about the same.
    New Starline (best currently available)
    40S&W 13.6 cents each
    10mm 14.4 cents each

    It is an excellent cartridge for handloading.
    Bullets range from 135gr up to 220gr
    You can load 40s&w velocities for killing soda cans
    You can load light screamers for amusment 1600fps+
    Want to shoot some deer? 180gr at 1400fps
    Need penetration? 220gr bullets

    They sell 357 Sig at Walmart, unfortunately it is more expensive than 10mm.
     
  15. doubleg

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    10mm or .45 super in a 1911.;)
     
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    Some 1911's dont fare too well with full house 10mm rounds.
     
  17. ozarkhillbilly

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    I like my Glock 20 10mm a whole lot more then my Glock 22 .40cal, It does have more recoil the ammo cost more and the grip is bigger, if you have small hands that could be a problem, but if you want no recoil, cheap ammo and a small grip buy a 22lr. The 10mm is a blast to shoot and it will also stop just about anything in the lower 48 and it would be a definite keeper if the SHTF. Ammo is a little harder to find then 9mm, 40cal, 45acp but not all that difficult. I am not knocking 45acp I have three but if everything was equal the 10mm is a better round.
     
  18. AKA

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    I have 45 ACP pistols and they are versatile, easy to buy ammo for and are used in several different shooting sports events.

    My Glock 20 with Double Tap 135 gr. Nosler HP @ 1600 fps 767 ft./lbs from a Glock 20 does recoil but not horribly and it is comforting while walking in dangerous areas say in bear country or to stop the crazed and dreaded zombies.

    I would get both but if I could only afford one it would be the 45 ACP.

    You can buy Double Tap ammo here:

    http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/ca...id=45&osCsid=92643a9757b6f004e4463e63e449772d

    Have a good holiday.
     
  19. LAK Supply

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    Get the Glock 20!! They are great guns, and you will not be disappointed with the 10mm round in the least!

    I have a G20, and I couldn't ask for a more versatile weapon. With my 6" Jarvis barrel, it will run neck-in-neck with many of the factory .41 magnum loads, and you can download it to factory .40 power as well.

    I think it would cost you about $90 to get a .40 conversion barrel as well, so you can shoot lots of cheap ammo at the range. This would also come in handy if there is ever a time that you can't get ahold of a lot of 10mm in a doomsday-type scenario or something like that.

    The 10mm will cycle .40 in a pinch as well (with the factory 10mm barrel); it is not as reliable as 10 ammo and it is not the greatest thing you can do for your gun, but it will work if you need it to.

    I had a Glock 31 (.357 Sig), which is the exact same gun as the 22 with the exception of the barrel (.40 vs .357). When I got the 10mm I was expecting it to shoot poorly (I was not yet used to the larger grip of the big frame Glock) in comparison, but all it took was one trip to the range for me to decide differently.

    I shot the 31 in both .357 Sig and .40 (had a conversion barrel for that one too), and then shot the 20 with the factory 10mm barrel. I was very surprised that the bigger gun shot so well; I think Glock kept the power of the 10mm round in mind when they designed this weapon, and they did a great job. The larger frame and slide really soak up the recoil; it shoots great.

    I have since traded the standard-sized Glock in for something else, but I will never give up my 10mm!

    Oh yeah, and the 10 is not dead. There are more people shooting that round now than ever before. I have a friend that owns a gun store here in my area, and his 10mm handgun sales have increased substantially over the last few years. Don't listen to the anti-10 guys! :neener:
     
  20. antsi

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    Comparisons of the popularity of .40 and 10mm are largely based on the decisions of police department bureacrats, who have overwhelmingly opted for .40 rather than 10mm. However, their criteria might not necessarily be the same as yours.

    I agree with everything atblis says, except:
    "Brass costs are about the same."
    For me, .40 brass is free because whenever I go to the range it is lying around in piles.
    10mm brass is a little harder to come by.
     
  21. Lennyjoe

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    Atblis hit the nail on the head.

    I have 2 tens, a 1006 S&W and a G20 and I love them both.

    Get the 10MM, load it up with some Blue Dot and 180's and watch your buddy and his .40 stare in awe when you let them full powers go. It will put a smile on your face for sure.:D
     
  22. atblis

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    Well

    Couple differences for me (minor details)

    Big ole grin (not smile)
    800X (Bluedot works too though)
    :evil:
     
  23. the pistolero

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    And it's a real pain in the back end when folks like me, who shoot & save our brass, are looking for it and pick up .40S&W brass about 7 or 8 times out of 10. Of course, a good bit of that has to do with the fact that when the brass is ejected, it hits the awning over the firing line and goes only God knows where. ;)
     
  24. Lennyjoe

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    Oh yea baby. 800X is the creme de le creme of powders for the 10MM. :D
     
  25. Wordsmith

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    357 SIG is dead compared to the 10mm?

    Maybe in your neck of the woods nobody shoots the 9mm magnum, but I can find plenty of 357 SIG around here. The 10mm is what is scarce.

    Last I checked, more law enforcement agencies are picking up the 357 SIG, including my own state's highway patrol. How many police departments and highway patrols are using the 10mm?

    And don't say it doesn't matter. Law enforcement is the primary reason that the .40 S&W is so popular.
     
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