Looking for #4 Buckshot for home defense?

[MCgunner]

I don't quite understand. the OP. You're going to load up for defense with 4 buck or you're just getting it for range practice? I'd range practice with dove loads, personally. 4 buck is a great SD choice. I load with 3 buck in a 20 gauge, myself. If you can't find 4 buck, consider some HV steel T shot (.20", just under 4 buck in size). This stuff is awesome in my 10 gauge on big geese. Inside 40 yards it shoots right through the birds, leaves an exit wound. It kills quite dead at 60 yards. I'd trust it for self defense and it'd be even less penetrative in an apartment wall, I'd THINK, though I don't KNOW that. Also, there's hevi shot Ts that are even more dense than lead and should perform as well as 4 buck. You can get 'em in a "dead coyote" load from Remington.

I mean, if you're having a hard time finding 4 buck, you might try the T shot in fasteel or hevi shot, just a thought.

 

[withdrawn34]

I have shot Rio Royal #4 buck with good results. Runs well.

 

[Strahley]

I use Sellior & Bellot #4. It has never given me any issues

 

[mrbladedude]

Is this good stuff?

12 Gauge Federal Premium Personal Defense Buckshot 2-3/4" #4 Buck 34 Pellets 1100 fps

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2FEPD1564B-1.html

or this?

http://www.hornady.com/store/12-Ga-VX-4-Buckshot/

 

[451 Detonics]

The wads in some buckshot shells do enhance patterning in cylinder bore barrels, it acts somewhat as a choke and can help tighten the pattern. In a barrel with choke tube I have found using either IC or mod will create about the same patterns with shells that don't use a petal finger wad like the Flight Control.

Is this good stuff?

Either of those loads will do an excellent job.

 

[lemaymiami]

I carried and relied on my shotgun (we had a choice of Mossberg or Remington issued, my choice was always the Remington Wingmaster in 18 or 20" barrel) for many years whenever an armed confrontation was a possibility. I never worried about our issue ammo since it was always 2 3/4" 00 Buck in various popular brands, usually Remington or Winchester. In the above model weapon (and every other simple, basic 12 ga. in our inventory) that load would disperse exactly one inch for every meter of ground covered.
That means that at 7 meters (pretty close to max interior room distances) you had a pattern of exactly 7". Nothing that I would ever own worked better at close quarters range in a situation where return fire is almost certain.

A competent 'gunner, properly equipped, is a very bad opponent at close quarter ranges (under 25 meters). If you can resist the urge to add bells and whistles to a police model basic 12ga shotgun you have the right tool in my opinion. More to be said about this but not on a public forum.

 

[MCgunner]

If you can resist the urge to add bells and whistles to a police model basic 12ga shotgun you have the right tool in my opinion.

Amen to that. K.I.S.S.

 

[Kendal Black]

If you can resist the urge to add bells and whistles to a police model basic 12ga shotgun you have the right tool in my opinion.

No bells or whistles on mine, just a headlight. I think of it as a Rule Four switch. If you never need it, you will never turn it on...

 

[Mike1234567]

Has anyone tried a wax slug? Gives the same results as a contact wound with a 30 yard slug range.My dad taught me how to make them and can send number six shot through a 4 inch yard timber with no more recoil than a no6 target load.

I wouldn't use ANY "modified" ammo for HD/SD because an idiot DA may charge you with murder. Even if waxed birdshot is less effect than slugs, legally speaking, you're better off using unmodified factory slugs.

 

[Inebriated]

I wouldn't use ANY "modified" ammo for HD/SD because an idiot DA may charge you with murder. Even if waxed birdshot is less effect than slugs, legally speaking, you're better off using unmodified factory slugs.

This...

But aint that some ****? You're better off, legally, removing a man's chest cavity, than you are shooting him with rubber buckshot? Not they deserve less, but what a world...