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Looking for a modern BP pistol...

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Boom-stick, Jul 7, 2006.

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  1. Boom-stick

    Boom-stick Member

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    I prefer modern stuff to shoot with and the only things I've found so far is the
    Ruger Old Army
    FA mini revolver
    NAA mini revolver
    T/C 209x50
    Ardesa buckhunter in-line

    Have I missed anything out, are there any little gems awaiting my discovery:)
     
  2. Chawbaccer

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    The Ardessa seems to be the same as the Traditions Buckhunter.
    Two guns to keep a look out for would be the TC Patriot and the TC Scout, but neither are made anymore.
     
  3. Boom-stick

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    Ardesa make them for Traditions:)
     
  4. arcticap

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    Prospector

    Deer Creek Products catalog (765-525-6181) lists a Traditions Prospector model that's shaped like a regular cap & ball revolver except it is single shot, with an 8.5 inch octagon barrel, .44 caliber, 1 in 22 inch twist, brass backstrap and trigger guard, hammer notch & blade front sight, $149. This model isn't listed on the Traditions site and may be a discontinued model.

    Gonic Arms Barrel on a TC Contender, can be outfitted with pistol grip:

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    http://specialtypistols.ottllc.com/sp11.html

    There may be at least one other inline high powered hunting pistol, but the manufacturer and model name eludes me right now.
     
  5. Boom-stick

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    It's a shame bond arms don't do BP barrels for their derringers.:evil: they would be fun.
     
  6. gmatov

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    Why would you even consider BP if you prefer "modern stuff" to shoot?

    If you don't want to get your hands dirty cleaning, is one reason. If you don't want to get your hands dirty while shooting, is another reason.

    If you just don't want all that fuss, is an even bigger reason. I am not trying to drive you away, but if "Old Fashioned BP" is not for you, perhaps you should stick with cartridge guns. I probably COULD guarantee you that DID you try it, you would be hooked.

    What the hell, it costs ahell of a lot less to TRY BP than to buy ANY cartridge gun, at least those not made of potmetal, like a Raven or some such.

    Give it a go, you just might like it.

    Cheers,

    George
     
  7. Smokin_Gun

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    The Patriot, I believe made in England is about as modern as you can get.

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  8. Boom-stick

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    1. You probably didn't notice, but I'm in the UK, they've effectivly banned 'normal' handguns here. BP/muzzle loading is pretty much all we got left.

    2. the local ranges to me don't allow BP.

    And yours for only $1841 + shipping:eek:

    PS. Its designed in the UK but made somewhere in the Easten Bloc.
     
  9. Smokin_Gun

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    For $1841 + shipping I can wait for you to send it to me for Christmas, you can pick the year...LoL!
    Thanks anyway...

    Do you want a Uberti 1873BP dated stamp BS, 2002 with loader? Like new condition Selling price $290 you pay shipping to the UK and will sharpen my pencil a little.
    Can I ship to the UK?
     
  10. Manyirons

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    Tha BOSS ships there. Ya MIGHT wanna send it as parts in two-three parcels.
     
  11. Fosbery

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    Ruger Old Army is the most popular here in the UK. You'll have trouble finding any other muzzle loading pistol of modern design. It's a fine pistol, and much cheaper than anything else you'll find. Your other choices are either mini-revolvers (not much good for competition) or single-shot (no fun! :p ), but the Old Army is a revolver so you've got 6 shots. If you can get it, I'd reccomend the smaller 5 1/2" version.

    If you want to send a firearm to the UK you need to send it via a registered firearms importer such as Litt's.
     
  12. Boom-stick

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    Or you can have it posted straight to your front door and then explain to the police how you got it.... like I did;)
    I already had the slot so they didn't really question it, they weren't very happy, but they didn't question it.

    I am hoping to get my ROA soon with a nitro cylinder as well.
    What my plan is, is to get one in SS with adjustable sights, have the barrel cut back to 5 1/2" and get the loading lever for a 5 1/2" model installed and relocate the front sight.:)
    add a set of houge grips and it should be quite a tidy little package.
     
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  13. Manyirons

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    Yup! Easier ta be forgiven then ta get permission mosta tha time!
     
  14. Fosbery

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    Lmao, you rebel :p

    I'm desperate for the 5 1/2" model, I tried it out in the States and it's much nicer than the 7" (and if you squint and ignore the smell, it's a Colt SAA :p), but I can't find anyone who stocks it here in the UK. I'll probably have to get it specially imported which is gonna cost loads (I can't be bothered messing about with saws and parts).
     
  15. Boom-stick

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    They don't make a 5 1/2" with adjustable sight anywhere, any you've seen in the states have been custom jobs.

    Normal fixed sight 5 1/2" are available here no problem.
     
  16. Fosbery

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    Oh well, I'll just get the standard model. Cheers.
     
  17. Howdy Doody

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    I can see where Ruger Old Armies would be a great choice in a modern handgun. I am a bit prejudiced about ROAs, since I like them enough that I have 3 pairs of them. I keep my 5 1/2 stainless ones outfitted all the time with Kirst nickle plated converters. They shoot a 200gr boolit with BP in 45lc just great. They are certainly stout enough to shoot smokeless powder too. For accuracy, it is hard to beat the 7 1/2" versions. Mine do a great job even though they have the fixed sights.
    I vote for ROAs, but a question to satisfy my curiousity. In the UK can you have converters? Wouldn't that be about the same as a regular hand gun like say a S&W or the like?
     
  18. Fosbery

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    No you can't. Pistols are pretty much outlawed. The main exception is muzzle loaders. The other main exception is pistols made before 1919. So you could have a Remington Pocket Navy made in 1862, that was converted to shoot cartridges in 1873, but ROAs are post-1919. Converting a muzzle loading pistol to shoot cartridges is illegal for pretty much everyone.
     
  19. bigbore442001

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    I too love the Ruger OA. Wonderful cap and ball revolver. If you are interested in a muzzleloading handgun that has interchangeable barrels, you may want to contact this person.

    Kahnke Gun Works
    206 W 11th St
    Redwood Falls MN 56283
    507-637-2901

    He makes the M82 pistol which can be had in 32,45,50 and 54 caliber. The barrels are 10, 12 and 14 inch. I did have him make me a 16" .20 guage smoothbore barrel for mine, so he can do custom work.
     
  20. arcticap

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    Thanks bigbore442001, I believe that's the one I couldn't recall the name of.
     
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    Gordon Kahnke used to have a website but it is no longer functioning. I called him up and he is still hard at work making his handguns and rifles. I am thinking about getting another barrel for my gun in the future.
     
  22. Fiveshooter

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    Modern BP Pistols And Revolvers

    Boom-stick,
    I am fortunate enough to live in an area where we can have cartridge handguns up to .50 caliber. Even so I enjoy the black powder guns both modern and authentic. Below are some examples of some Ruger Old Army revolvers(stock and full custom) as well as the Kahnke single shot.

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    Kahnke .50 Caliber Single Shot with brushed stainless steel finish.



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    Brace of 5.5" barreled fix sight Old Army revolvers.


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    Brace of 7.5" barreled adjustable site Old Army revolvers with extra tall front sight for using conicals as well as round balls.


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    Full Custom 5 shot .50 caliber Old Army by Clements Custom Guns

    You have probably seen the custom Clements Old Army before. If not there is some information at the links below.

    http://imageevent.com/fiveshooter/ccgoa

    http://www.gunblast.com/Cumpston_ClementsFugett.htm

    It is hard to go wrong with the Ruger Old Army. If I were to only have one of the stock models it would be the stainless 5.5 " fixed sight model. They come with plenty of front sight to cut in and refinish for round balls and both of mine came with just about perfect windage from the factory. This model is just plain FUN to shoot.

    Best wishes with whatever you choose,
    Billy
     
  23. parmamoon

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    bigbore442001,

    How does your 16" 20 ga. reconsile with federal ban on short barreled shotguns? I'm only asking because I recently picked up a model 82 and was thinking of asking kahnke to make me a 16" .50 cal barrel but a scattergun sounds alot more fun.
     
  24. 4v50 Gary

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    The Patriot is $1841?!! :eek: You can buy quite a # of Ruger Old Armies for that kind of money.
     
  25. Third_Rail

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    parmamoon - muzzleloaders are exempt (mostly) from the 1934NFA. State laws may vary.
     
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