thanks, yeah I want the gun to still be effective, I have been trying to decide which stock i do want, i like that Fully Molded stock you posted lloydkristmas, I have one of those elastic shell cuffs on my standard stock right now and that would work on that one too, Idk about cutting down my barrel though Id rather dish out money for a pre made one, I want to have both incase i do decide to use it as a hunting shotgun