Love new shockwave… toy or serious arm?

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I gotta tell ya, I was positively cringing the first time I pulled the trigger. I girded my loins, closed my eyes, and… bang. Wha? Where’s the sturm und drang? The calamity? Nowhere. Sure, it kicks, but it’s nowhere near as bad as many might think (I sure did). With minishells, it’s scarcely more than a .22, seriously. My 13 year old daughter has absolutely no problem with it, and giggles when she’s firing it. Know that I/we are not Neanderthals. I’m 6’1, 190 lbs and have advanced arthritis pretty much everywhere. It’s as fast (or almost, not quite but close) as any other pump shotgun, IMO. It definitely has utility.

They have their uses. I prefer the "push-pull" hold. There's a Canadian guy on YouTube that shoots hand thrown clays with his, and does well with it.

Regular vertical pistol grips suck, as many here have already attested to. I had Pachmyr Vindicator grip on an 870 for a while, and even with the rubber grip it was brutal. Kind of fun standing on top of the trap house and trying to hit the clays with it though.

They look like fun but I think they will eventually go the way of the AR pistol brace.

Shoot it head to head with your M4 on a shot timer out to 10 yards. I bet you are faster and more accurate with the stocked weapon.

So, banned for a minute, then back?

The birdshead grip on the Mossberg Shockwave really helps with recoil. That birdshead shotgun grip has been around for 20 years or more. Mossberg made it famous.

When I was younger I tried shooting a 12 gauge 18 inch barrel Mossberg Camper shotgun with their hard plastic standard pistol grip. Oh that was a lesson in of it's self. Painful!!!

I believe you.

There was a time I wanted to brace a Tac-13, the Remington "firearm" version of the Versa Max, but I think the fever has passed. I do keep looking for a Tac-14 used at a good price, though.