Lubricant Mix

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I have been reading as much as I can on the site about making lubricant and lube pills and I know I can get Beeswax in our village. I think I can find Canning Paraffin but I am not at all sure about MUTTON TALLOW. This area specializes in Steak and Fish. If I can't find any Mutton tallow what is a good alternative - could I use Bore Butter?
If I can get a good lube pill mix will this replace felt wads alltogether?

I know I am asking some simple questions but everyone has to start somewhere!
Duncan
 
Duncaninfrance said:
WELCOME TO 2006!!
I have been reading as much as I can on the site about making lubricant and lube pills and I know I can get Beeswax in our village. I think I can find Canning Paraffin but I am not at all sure about MUTTON TALLOW. This area specializes in Steak and Fish. If I can't find any Mutton tallow what is a good alternative - could I use Bore Butter?
If I can get a good lube pill mix will this replace felt wads alltogether?

I know I am asking some simple questions but everyone has to start somewhere!
Duncan

Duncan, RE: "Gatofeo Lube #1", send your address, will DHL some mutton tallow over! Really no substitute, it either is or is not; THE LUBE.
 
I like beeswax and crisco as well
50-50 mix

I even use it for my smokless loads

Easiest cleanup ever

Kid Couteau
 
I use 50-50 beeswax/olive oil. I have substituted both goose grease and deer tallow for the olive oil, couldn't tell a great deal of difference except that the animal fat in the mixture will turn rancid after a while if not kept cool. It still works fine, just stinks. I haven't had any mixture with olive oil do that. You can play with the ratio of beeswax to olive oil for a softer or stiffer end product depending on how you intend to use it.

Steve
 
Crisco/beeswax 50/50 worked well for me years ago. Dixie used to sell a patch lube that was a tallow/beeswax combo.
 
Crisco

I have been trying to work out what crisco is and so I put a search on the web. I presume that it is Cooking Oil or Frying Fat, is that right?

Another thing that I remembered from my shotgun shooting days was I used to pull the barrels through immediately after I had finished with a leg of a pair of panti hose ( Not Mine!!) as the nylon was coarse enough to remove a lot of the powder and wad residue.
Worked OK on my Remington too.
Duncan
 
Yes, Duncaninfrance, you are correct. Crisco is a brand name for a hydrogenated vegetable oil product (or mostly vegetable oil I think) which has the consistancy of lard at room temperature.

Steve
 
Dixie Gun Works sells mutton tallow. It's about $3.50 for a tub of 12 to 16 ounces (apparently, DGW doesn't weigh the stuff but eyeballs it when they fill each tub ... :scrutiny: )
It's the only source I've found --- and I live in sheep country. Kinda. Sorta. They bring the sheep into the remote Utah desert in the late winter and spring, when there's ample water. By early summer, all the water is gone and they truck the sheep back to the better grazing grounds.
Anyway, I see thousands of sheep here in the desert but never see one slaughtered. Rather like living next to a coffee plantation but having to buy your coffee canned from JuanValdezMart or sumpin.
Call your county extension office (in the state government pages) and ask who raises sheep in your area. Call some slaughterhouses and ask if you can buy a few pounds of sheep fat that's been trimmed off the meat.
If you get sheep fat (or any other animal fat, for that matter), the easiest way I've found to render it is to boil it in a big ol' soup pot in plenty of water. Then put it in a cold (but not freezing) place. The fat floats on the top and becomes a big ol' cookie of pure tallow.
Usually, you can tip one side of this tallow down, grab the rising opposite side, and lift the whole thing out as one big cookie. Pat dry with paper towels and store in airtight containers. Snap-top plastic tubs are good.
I did the above with deer fat years ago and it worked fine.
I must admit I've never tried this with sheep fat but don't see why it won't work.
My late mother (who was from Belgium and made incredible soups) used to chill her soup after making it, then lift the hardened fat nodules off the surface with a skinner or fork.
God knows how many hundreds of pounds of turkey, chicken, pork, beef, duck, goose and rabbit fat went into the garbage! :what:
I've tried other fats in the lubricant recipe I posted (it's not MY recipe, I found it in a 1943 American Rifleman magazine, so stop crediting me with its invention :mad: ) but nothing works as well as sheep tallow.
Back in the black powder days, the British military used sheep tallow by the tons for lubricating its bullets. I believe the Brits knew a good thing. My understanding is that beef and pig tallow were sometimes used but sheep tallow was most preferred.
I used to read that lanolin is found in sheep tallow, but a post more than a year ago by a learned man said this was impossible as the glands that produce lanolin are not found anywhere near the fat. I dunno. All I know is that the blamed stuff works better than any other tallow I've found.
And it's relatively cheap, if not readily available. I can make the equivalent of about 10 lubricant sticks (the kind used in bullet sizing machines) for less than $4 --- if I reckon my figures correctly.
That's a whole lot cheaper than SPG, Lyman Black Powder Gold and other commercially made black powder lubes --- and it works just as well or better.
I use the same lube for all black powder applicatons: lubricating bullets, round ball patches, felt wads, etc. Seems to work well in everything.

One of these days, in the middle of sheep country, they may erect a statue to me with the words: GATOFEO --- HE GREASED THE SKIDS TO THE FUTURE WITH SHEEP TALLOW ... :neener:
 
Another of the benefits of Gatofeo's extensive research.
 
I dunno whether mutton tallow works better than anything else, but I see no reason to bother with it. Bees wax mixed with Crisco or vegetable oil works just fine for me, and is much easier and cheaper than trying to find mutton tallow. I guess it's kind of like arguing that a Ferrari is faster than a Corvette. The 'vette goes as fast as I will ever need it to, for a heck of a lot less money, and is readily available down the street at the local Chevy dealer, so why waste all the time and money it would take to get a Ferrari?

P.S. I use Crisco in the summer months, because the resulting lube is stiffer and less likely to turn liquid in hot weather. I use whatever cheap veggie oil I can steal from my wife's pantry if I'm not concerned about high temps. I sometimes use both. The key ingredient is the bees wax, which is also the most expensive ingredient. I get 1 pound blocks at the local craft supply store (Michael's or something like that) in the candle making aisle. If you have a beekeeper nearby, you can get it direct a lot cheaper.
 
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