LWD 3.5# Connector. That was EASY!... But not what I expected

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Hmmm..... i ordered a lone wolf 3.5# Connector and I finally put it in my Glock 19 after looking at it for months and thinking id put a few thousand rounds down range first to see if the trigger smoothed out.

Well i guess the trigger smoothed out a lot because I finally installed it and dry fired it and didn't feel much difference, if any. I took it shooting after work and i really didn't notice much difference :uhoh:

I have 2,300 through my Glock 19 in stock form and put 400rds through it today with the new connector.

The trigger has always been Decent but i was really hoping for better results.

Are all connectors created equal or what? Should i try another brand?

Thanks

JOe

BTW- If anyone wants to see the EASIEST way of doing the install? Check out this video... It is remarkably easy :what:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfyytGNqohY&feature=related
 
I haven't found a big difference in factory or Lone Wolf connectors either. Ghost seems to make them noticeably lighter, but the break goes "mushy" on ya. For a bigger effect, replace the trigger spring and drop safety plunger spring. The striker spring will have a BIG effect, but may compromise reliability. The other 2 will not.
 
I replaced all 3 springs and put the 3.5# connector on my 17c. Really noticeable, right away. After I polished everything and did a legitimate trigger job, it was even more noticeable. The trigger on mine breaks like a glass rod now and is predictable from shot to shot.
 
A legitimate trigger job is more than just using flitz to polish the connector. I watched AGI's "Making Glocks Rock" video and followed their instructions.

As for light strikes, ~1000 rounds later still no problems. If the spring does wear out, it's only a few bucks to replace.
 
Basically they outline the specifics of what parts need to be polished and how to go about doing so. ie: using arkansas stones to bring certain parts to a mirror finish.
 
Light and smooth are two different things. A lighter connector gives you a lighter pull, nothing more.
 
Hey Doc.
Ever seen someone change the trigger spring geometry? Ever seen someone put a block in the take up groove in the trigger housing to minimize pretravel? Ever seen someone use Federal primers with light firing pin spring? Ever seen a Ghost connector with OT tab that is cut at a small downward angle? Ever seen someone thin out a trigger bar to lessen contact? Lots more but that'll do.
Ain't stupid. Trying to appease the personality type. We can always make it better..........Can't we?
Warranty? Naawwww. Self insured.

Just bought a G34.
 
You will have some light strikes on some hard primers with that 4 lb spring. It is only a matter of time.
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Maybe, and maybe not.

I've shot thousands of rounds through my G27, equipped with a 4# striker spring and a 3.5# connector, and it has worked 100% so far.
I usually shoot Winchester white box, Blazer, Speer, and Federal ammo.
 
I've got that same connector in that same pistol. Biggest difference I noticed was that the pull at the breaking point felt lighter, but also slightly longer through that breaking point, and squishy. In other words, I didn't have to pull as hard to make it go bang, but instead of breaking over with a quick snap, the trigger instead drags a little farther through a mooshy feel, though with less pressure required in the pull.

The immediate result was to shrink my 15 yard groups from crap to ~4 inches.

At 25 yards, groups now stay somewhere within an eight inch circle, but at 230 yards, all I can say is zoinks! and jenkies! and gimme a rifle.
 
Boy, what an attitude. An the audacity to infer that I am a fool. Gosh, got to get rid of the golf cart. And the 16' trailer. Diesel Ford Van. No Corvettes. Think I should sell the AR/Charter Arms Explorer pistol? 86" X 92" front projection TV? What a waste. Darn thing gives you vertigo sometimes.
Doc, got three 650s, two Pro 1000s, Ponsness?Warren, Mec 600, Lee turret, and Square Deal in my loading room.
Chill Doc. Some people like to explore, step out of the box. Enjoy tinkering.
Doc, do you compete in any pistol game?

betcha I can achieve a 3# pull, just a tad of pre-travel, no over travel, smooth, dependable, just a tad of creep, safe (competition) trigger.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, screaming " That was one hell of a ride!"

doesn't
 
Doc Glock
I run Glock 8 lb connectors in my Glocks and shoot them much more accurately than with the stock 5.5.
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Do I understand, then, that you've modified your Glock(s) to increase the trigger pull weight? How does this contribute to your shooting them much more accurately than had they been left stock? Curious.
 
3.5 Connector ?

I have a 17L longslide with the 4.5lb. connector and a Glock26 with the standard 5.5 installed. The 4.5 gives a long and light break at the end of the trigger travel. The 5.5 gives a more crisp and short break with less travel. In the 26, I 've left the stock 5.5 in place as it is a carry pistol and I like the safety of a heavier pull that is still smooth in a defense pistol. Also, it's a good idea to not carry with one in the chamber . The reason LE can do this is that all their weapons have the 8 lb. connector and they know they intend to fire the weapon as a last resort in a police situation .
 
I 've left the stock 5.5 in place as it is a carry pistol and I like the safety of a heavier pull that is still smooth in a defense pistol
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I considered that, but after trying the LW connector, the difference in pull weight seems more minor than dramatic.
 
Fools are like hypocrites. We all are, just depends on the degree.

It appears that you would be low on the score card if you manipulated a pistol in such a fashion. The best speed competition shooters in the world do not stage a trigger. The big argument is to slap the trigger or a really fast pull allowing for whatever reset is required.

Doc, past the tact problem, don't you think that Glock constructed the Glock to meet military or, at the very least, civilian circumstances. Don't you think if they could be very profitable, they would develop pistols for the Red Cent market? Why do you think companies that sell the accessories for Glock are so numerous? Why do expert shooters like Sevigeny, Rogers, and Abbate have their weapons prepped by Glock armorers using the same stuff we are talking about. Why does Dave Spaulding, a renowned trainer, author, shooter, extol the virtues of the Ghost connector and spend the time to come up with an idea how to cut the OT tab to work better. Not on the payroll.
Ruger, in all its cheapness, copied the Glock with the SRs. Dave is on their payroll. They built the 10-22 as cheap as they could and made some ingenious individuals rich. As a slightly fool, I have contributed to their riches with a tricked out 10-22. Seems as there is some cliche' about that action.
'Nough said. About three fingers of Jack Black should do good.:cool:

Weiss, how big of a fool does he think you are?
 
Doc Glock
Now that you wasted your money did you learn anything. If you did, then it was not a total loss then. All the companies like Lone Wolf and Buffalo Bore and Corbon are out to cheat you out of your hard earned money anyway they can.
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I learned that I shoot better with the minor difference in trigger pull weight/feel. Haven't tried adding an eight-pound connector, so maybe one day I'll throw curious money that direction, too. (But before then, I'll have to swap out the original connector to see how I shoot with it these days. The difference, after all, may be just as minor as the pull weight alteration.)

Speaking of curiosity, is it that the heavier 8 lb connector moves a shorter distance over frictional surfaces to do the same job as the lighter ones, and the payoff for the heavier pull is a shorter breakover point? (I don't have design schematics or a disassembled pistol in front of me right now with which to examine geometry, but this sound right-ish...)

For instance, the second stage of the trigger pull that you refer to, at least with the LW connector, is the minutely longer, albeit lighter one, than yielded by the Glock original connector. My finger at present seems to do better with that setup than the factory original, but if the 8 lb trigger makes the breaking point shorter than the factory original, I remain all the more curious.

By the way, how big is that 230-yard-distant metal plate, and how often do you shoot at that distance? Greatest distance I can get around here is only 25 yards (well, unless I want to drive for an hour, first)...
 
Doc Glock

Aha, so the pull is a wee tad longer, but the geometry produces a more efficient trigger at the “working end” of the pull/reset. Methinks I follow. Thanks.
 
Sic 'em Doc. Go git those single action nuts. Darn, might have to sell my NM.

Just removed all the pretravel from the trigger. First movement of the trigger starts the drop of the sear. Firing pin safety fully functional. Diameter of firing pin safety provides ample room. Full reset. Loaded two rounds, fired first, then fired second round to slide lock. SON OF A GUN!! The trigger is at about 4.7#s, say 5#s and I can reduce it to 3#s with the Ghost Rocket kit and have an OT stop, I will be satisfied. Hafta waait for the kit. Bummer.

I'm not dropping names. I do know Randi. 'Course I know her as Holy Terror. I know Jesse also though its been a few years ago at Mulecamp. TG Reaper is a nodding acquaintence.

Doc, you old booger, you are one pompous ass :uhoh:. You gotta be a gunsmith.
 
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