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M&p 340

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by DAdams, Jun 12, 2007.

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  1. DAdams

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    After five years and mininmal experimenting; to this day the M&P 340 is my most carried revolver. It is still pouched in a Mika Roundcut Pocket Holster.

    It is loaded with SGDFSB 135 gr Plus P.

    I bought it with the CT 405 grips and although I tried others for the heck of it, I have stuck with the CTs.

    I bought a set of CT 305s, the larger ones and they are on a 642 right now, with the intent that if I OWB the 340, I would put the 305s on it.

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  2. AStone

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    Like they said in the town where I grew up:

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :D
     
  3. wheelyfun66

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    Hey DAdams,
    I knew that if I kicked up enough dust, you'd come back to this thread!

    Are the Crimson Trace grips more comfortable than the stock rubber grips? (assuming that you have ever used the stock grips..)

    Still looking for a user report on the VZ grips for the j-frames......

    They look super-nice, but $75 for j-frame grips......:eek:

    I am finding that my Glock is sitting more and more in the safe, while the 340 goes everywhere with me!
     
  4. FranklyTodd

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    Undergunned...

    Heading into Yellowstone tomorrow on the family vacation... Looking at the pictures of the Grizzlies makes me feel under-gunned for the first time with 5 short-barrel 357s in my 340... :eek:

    If SHTF with a grizzly, go for a head shot or just throw it at him and run away screaming?? I'm pretty sure I am still faster than my wife and youngest... :neener::evil:
     
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    There is no one out there who lust over the 340PD the way I do :)

    I once owned a 342PD and still kick myself for selling it. But the 340PD is high up on my want list and I've made sure the wife, or buyer of birthday presents, knows I want one. I hope to be posting pics and a review in this thread soon.
     
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    Hey Undergunned,
    that is an apt username for someone carrying a snubbie .357 into Grizzly territory!

    I was thinking that you would probably be best served to reserve ONE shot for.....yourself! Put yourself out of misery before a big ol' Grizzly does ya in!
     
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    TROUBLE IN 340 LAND.......!!

    I have owned my 340 since about last Dec or Jan.....
    I treat it nicely, never dropped it or taken any abrupt jolts.....

    But last night, I noticed that my tritium vial on my front sight has QUIT WORKING!

    One of the main features that inspired me to purchase this pricey j-frame was the low-light sight......and now, after half a year....it went flat on me! :mad:

    I think I have read where this happened to someone else in this forum.....

    Do I send it off to S&W (I hate giving up my gun, even to the manufacturer), or just pay my local gun smith to install a new front sight?

    Any experiences with this happening?
    Any experiences with shipping off to S&W? (turn around times, cost, shipping arrangements, etc..)

    If I get another sight.....will this just happen again?

    I have been carrying this revolver every day, and now might have to send it away to S&W????? (I do have a Glock 26 to carry while it's away....but still, worried that some hack at S&W will mar my finish, etc...)

    Thanks for any advice!
     
  8. DAdams

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    Call S&W customer service. They will send you a prepaid voucher for shipping.
    They will pay the freight both ways and my guess is about two to three week turnaround.

    Odd that that happened. Mine is five years old and I don't think it is as bright as new but still visible. IIRC 15 years is supposedly the half life of the tritium vial.

    Another reason I like the Crimson Trace laser grips. Primary and backup.
     
  9. JoeShmoe

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    Might get rid of my 340PD

    Here's a thread I started in the Revolver forum:
    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=663338

    My 340PD locked up on me, and I sent it back to Smith & Wesson for repair. The jamming seemed related to the integral lock, but they replaced the hand, with no mention of any lock modification. Regardless of the cause, I don't know if I can trust it any longer. If it happened once it can happen again. Revolvers are supposed to be foolproof.
     
  10. DAdams

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    Revolvers are supposed to be foolproof ..... But they aren't.
    The first revolver I bought 6 years ago a 642 crapped out following 500 dry fires and fifty rounds. The reason I bought the revolver was to be foolproof because I had to send a new semi auto back to the factory for repair. So much for the high reliability of the revolver. The second handgun I had to send in for repair was a S&w M-60 a revolver.

    So far then in my short handgunning career two revolvers failed semi auto one. :uhoh: YMMV.
     
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  11. Mister_Smith

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    Hey skt239, there is somebody out here who lusts after the 340PD, ME. If you haven't already read it, on page 68 I have an extensive range report for my 340PD. I also own the 340 M&P and consider both guns equally desirable but each in their own way for differing purposes. If you have not bought the 340PD yet, keep in mind they are a bear to shoot when using full power .357 Magnum, not uncontrollable but recoil is severe and you will not have split second double tap ability with that gun, then again with a five shot revolver your shots should be sparing, and with .357, very effective. I am a great fan of the 340PD, just as I am of the 340 M&P. A 340PD fully loaded is so light it's almost like as light as an unloaded 340 M&P.

    Speaking of 340 M&P's, if anyone has a NO LOCK 340 M&P for sale, I may be interested in buying it (are we allowed to ask that on here DAdams?).

    Anyway, back to the 340PD, it's a great gun, just be prepared to deal with the stiff recoil, or as DAdams suggested earlier, use Buffalo Bore standard pressure 38 Special 158 grain ammo, even out of the short barrel it achieves 850 FPS, I would not feel under armed with that type of power, and I'm sure the recoil is faaaaar less than full bore 158 grain .357 Magnum ammo. No matter how much others criticize the 340PD and M&P guns, they do what they do like nothing else out there. They are highly specialized, very powerful, very VERSATILE, easy to carry, easy to conceal, fast on the draw, the list goes on and on. They are GREAT guns, hope you have one by now. Don't overlook the .22 LR (43C) and .22 Magnum (351C) versions, I have the .22 LR version for practice, what a neat little piece of work that one is. Okay, good luck whatever you choose!
     
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    I'm the Creator...not the Moderator.:cool:

    Mr. Smith's assessment is spot on. My only assesed minor downside with the PD are the front sights and I could live with the FO version since I would have CT grips on in any event.

    I still prefer the XS standard dots.

    Just read your lock thread. When my new 642 failed to operate I too concluded that it was likely the lock. Was it, i dont know and never will. Upon repair the analysis (there wasn't any lock reference) was performed and I have had no problem since. IMO SW and a revolver failure to fire will never admittedly be anything to do with the lock.

    Again my second revolver failure was a pristine looking used M60. It had no lock.

    Given a choice I wouldn't purchase another handgun with an internal locking device.
     
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  13. HiVel1

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    Like a dummy, I sold my 340 PD- now own a 340 no -lock M&P. Bet you dont have enough scratch to get that one away from me-not for sale in any event. The M&P is a nicer gun to me than the PD-no lock makes it better! Love it!
    Maybe later I will get another PD-just because.......
     
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    HiVel1, you sold your 340PD? You should do yourself a favor and sell your 340 M&P as well. You don't want a junky little mouse gun like that 340 M&P, nooooo, it's no good. It's made of aluminum. Hah. Who ever thought of of an aluminum gun in .357 must have been drunk, the dang thing is gonna wear out on you in no time flat. You'll be lucky to make it to round count 20 before the thing falls apart on you like a plastic toy cap gun. And think, the recoil everybody complains about? TRUE! It's like a grenade going off in your hand!! After the first shot you'll be standing there at the public gun range looking like Wile E. Coyote from THE ROAD RUNNER, covered in black soot and smokey after an Acme bomb went off in his hands, and onlookers at the range will laugh at you, after they extinguish the fire in their hair from your blast. Who needs that? You'll have to use an ice compress on your hand in between each and every shot. Not only that it has a radioactive tritium night sight, the dang thing is NUKE-YOO-LAR!! Do you wanna glow in the dark because of some radioactive gun, don't you ever want kids? What were they thinking, a radioactive gun!! HECK NO!!

    What's worse, it only holds like one and a half lousy rounds, all of which will miss the target it'll hurt so much to shoot. Heck, the thing is so light that when you run out of what few bullets you have you can't even beat your attacker with the dang gun. You might as well blow him kisses. Really HiVel1, you should cut your losses and get rid of that awful 340 M&P. It's got an ugly black finish that will make you very unpopular with certain left leaning voters, it is its own brand of one of those evil but little "black guns", you'll be spurned by genteel society. Is this the life you envisioned for yourself HiVel1? I can save you from that life of misery HiVel, though it would pain me dearly to have to take on such a burden, as a good, kind, honest American I feel it is my duty to ease the burden of fellow Americans. I know I may regret it but I will take the 340 M&P off your hands and you know what, I'll even throw in a little money, just to be a good sport. What you REALLY want is a new fangled Smith & Wesson M&P Shield, not some radioactive toy cap gun that only holds one and a half rounds of ouch.

    DAdams, yes, I forgot to mention that the front blade sight of the 340PD leaves something to be desired, thankfully a competent gunsmith can install the XS sight in its place. One note, when pulling my 340 M&P from a pocket it sometimes snags, while the the 340PD never snags. I would be hesitant to use the XS big dot and stick with the factory standard dot, though the standard dot does snag it does pull free with little effort, give or take, but there is that split second... and it only occurred while I was drawing from a seated position. DAdams, looking forward to the day when you buy yourself a 351C so we can read the range report!! ;-)
     
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    I have a 351 PD and have not had a chance to shoot it yet-I sold my340 PD several years ago in a fit of stupidity cuz my shooting wrist was giving me problems and I thought I would help it get better if I quit messing around with that device -my doctor shoots a 50 cal Barrett (among others) and has no sympathy for me at all. My 10 mm addiction does not help the wrist at all. Neither did the 50 cal Desert Eagle I sold. (Useless gun IMHO) Going to go lefty soon ? All this wrist action started many years ago (1967)after a couple of motorcycle wrecks-I still keep and ride 2 of those things too.
    The PD was actually a fun gun for me-I could actually hit stuff with it too! As soon as I get my Delta Elite set up properly for me it might be time for another "Punisher" revolver. Have fun! Enjoy the pain. It is God's way of telling you that you are alive.
    The M&P is NOT FOR SALE. (Today)
     
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    Well for what it's worth, I woke this morning having not a clue that later today was I to buy myself a used Smith and Wesson all stainless J frame Model 60 in .357 Magnum, no lock, with a forged hammer and trigger. I'm sure many of you know the story, you're in a gun shop, and there it is, something you've been wanting for a long time. I've been wanting a "no lock" old school J frame Model 60 in .357 for years now, but I tend to avoid online auctions, the experienced among you know how that goes. I actually went to the shop to see if they still had that used 340 M&P "no lock" I saw a few months ago but it was gone, odd, because most people I know regret buying 340 series guns. The beauty of buying them used is that you can believe the seller when he says he has "very few rounds through it".

    The Model 60 I bought today was used but apparently not abused, lock up was as good as any factory new gun I've checked, finish wasn't new looking but it was acceptable. These guns are becoming scarce, and best of all, I get to shoot BUFFALO BORE THERMONUCLEAR .357 AMMO through this gun! Buffalo Bore recommends against their hotter ammo being fired in the 340 series due to crimp jump. Now that I will be able to fire single action, I can once again pursue my new hobby of shooting .357 snubbies out to 100 yards and beyond. I attempted to step in this direction with my 340PD but I was averaging only 2-3 shots out of five even hitting the paper at a lousy 25 yards. I have no doubt that the reason is the 250 pound trigger pull on the 340 series, and I had the further limitation of the blade front sight of the PD rather than the XS dot of the M&P.

    While I prefer the 340 series guns over the all stainless 60, the 60 has its place in my world and it really isn't a heavy gun, it's as light as a Glock 19 or little heavier than the new S&W Shield, the catalog says it's 22.6 ounces or nearly twice as heavy as the 340PD but as light as the medium framed polymer Glocks, that should put things in perspective. I'm pretty stoked about being able to shoot thermonuclear power level .357 rounds through it, if I was to tolerate full bore .357 Magnum 158 grain ammo in my 11 oz. 340PD I have no doubt that the same or more powerful ammo will be tolerable in the 60.

    Here is a photo I found online of the Model 60:

    http://www.retting.com/b/sw603572u461.jpg

    Hivel1, go shoot your 351PD, I have a Smith and Wesson 43C which is basically the 340 M&P in .22 LR caliber and it is FUN to shoot. I have read that the .22 Mag version is also immense fun and probably more so because you still have fairly affordable ammo but with lots more power in .22 Mag (about 20% more from charts I found on the net), even out of the snub barrel, I posted some chronograph results I found on the net somewhere between page 65 and 69. The day I shot my 340PD, I put 37 rounds through the 340 and over 200 rounds through the 43C, the little guns are fun and I have no doubt you will enjoy shooting it!

    Okay, though this post focused on a Smith and Wesson 60 in .357 it is still a brother to the 340 series, an ultra compact highly concealable J frame Smith and Wesson holding 5 shots of potent .357 Magnum ammunition, and I DID buy the gun because I went to the shop in hopes of finding their 340 M&P still there so I could buy it. So hopefully I haven't stepped on any toes and I look forward to giving you all my range report for an all steel J frame .357 soon enough after I pick up the gun!
     
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    Nice SS snubby-I have one W/O the hammer-they are really the best of the bunch if you get to shooting monster loads. I used to carry mine a good bit , but decided I needed more round count in case the zombies get out. Glocks are good for some things as you probably know.
     
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    I ran into a m60 a few years back. Has the hammer and although rated only for 38spl the BB standard pressures maximize the effectiveness of the standard ratings in a modern ammunition.

    After I had what I wanted in J Frames I then fulfilled my heavier .357 urge with two K Frames. A 19 and 66 with 2.5 inch barrels. I even put CT Hoghunter grips on the 66. What a machine!
    The 19 is the closest thing I have I would consider a BBQ revolver. Like new and a beautiful deep blue.
     
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    What are Hoghunter grips ?? Not familiar with that term or item....
    Edit-Crimson Trace ---which ones are they?
     
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    I have abunch of laser grips -jus tnever heard the term "Hoghunter* before
    Thanks
     
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    It's been awhile...

    I haven't been here for awhile but I'm back. I've taken that stainless .357 J frame model 60 I mentioned to the range, also my model 37-2 Airweight .38 Special, and my 340 M&P. The 22 ounce 60 was a pleasure to shoot, and firing single action with full house .357, I was able to keep many of my shots in the bull's eye at 25 yards. The same for the 15 ounce aluminum framed old school model 37, sadly, with my favorite gun, the 340 M&P, I couldn't even hit the paper with the first two shots and at nearly .80 cents a shot I wasn't going to waste any more ammo after that, not at a 25 yard range.

    I must send the 340 M&P to a gunsmith to see if they can make the double action pull better, at least as good as my model 19, the double action on that is a dream!!! I've read about Apex springs for the 340 series but I also read some bad press about their parts. Hopefully there is a fix for that heavy trigger pull. I have at least a couple thousand dry fires through the gun and the trigger, the staged single action break is smoother, but that doesn't help the heavy pull that is required.

    DAdams, you've mentioned I will like the gun a lot more at a 10 yard range, and I hope to get to the gun range where they have varying distances. The range I currently use refuses to have anything closer than 25 yards. Odd.

    Nevertheless, this 340 M&P is still one of my all time favorite handguns!!! There is hope for it yet!! It outshines the other two guns mentioned by the fact that it is stronger than the aluminum framed 37, handles hotter rounds, is far lighter than the stainless 60, and without an exposed hammer, pulls from the pocket with far more ease, not to mention the XS tritium dot sight. For what it was designed for, zero to ten yards, it's a great gun.

    And of course, I want another, I'm sure one of you guys is sick and tired of your little monster, so why don't you let me take it off your hands, but it must be one without an internal lock, me no like that lock, I know I can disable it but I'd rather just get one without the lock. Let's hear more stories of your wonderful experiences with these little guns!! :)
     
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    Ammo suggestion

    I read a suggestion for ammo for the 340 M&P on Gunblast, the author suggests using Corbon Pow'rball 100 grain .357 ammo which attains some 1477 FPS out of the short 340 barrel and that the recoil is far more manageable than other .357 ammo. He claims fast follow up shots at 25 yards! It may be some time before I can get to the range again so I thought I would post this in case anybody would like to try this load out of their 340 M&P (Smith advises against using such light loads from the 340PD). Here is the link to the article which mentions use of Glasers and Pow'rball .357 ammo through these guns:

    http://www.gunblast.com/SW-340MP.htm
     
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    Guess I better get to the range and refresh my 340 memory and dirty her up a bit.
    I have this urge to try it with the CT 305s, but that just makes the thing all too manageable.

    Like a Hogue Mono grip with a laser.

    This Federal 130 grain low recoil .357 might be worth a try also.
    http://www.americanrifleman.org/m-articlepage.aspx?id=4547&cid=19

    Thanks for keeping things interesting Mr. Smith.
     
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    Ya see, this is what happens when I step away for a little while: the club founder starts slacking.

    Come on, DA: get with it, bud. Go shoot that thang!

    Nem
     
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