M&P40 vs G23

[PowerJoker6.0]

just interested in hearing some opinions on what everyone likes better, the glock 23 or the M&P 40, i personally have a glock 23, but a friend recently got a smith. i havent gotten the chance to shoot his yet but im pretty psyched to try out something new. not trying to start a fight or anything just wanna hear what you all have to say.

-pj

 

[Crusader103]

The M&P line is head and shoulders above their predecessor and the ergonomics are pretty darn good, but I think it's pretty hard to beat a Glock. I have every confidence that the Glock will run forever, maintain reliability, stand up to neglect, and go "bang" when I want it to.

Doesn't mean I am not a S&W fan, because I am, but if I was to own only one autoloader, it'd be the Glock 23.

 

[tlmkr38]

I like the M&P better. It's a personal thing I guess but it's the only 40 I ever owned that I liked shooting. I had a Glock ( several really ) and could just never get to where I liked them. Thing hurt my hand when shooting 40's plus I reload alot of lead and can't really shoot that though them.

The grip on the Smith feels better to me as well. I honestly haven't made myself really like the 40 yet but heck I have so much brass for it it sounded like a good excuse to buy a new gun .

 

[Kingofthehill]

Im generally a fan of the grip of the 19/23 Glock but shooting the 23 you feel it more than shooting the same sized M&P 40 compact.

The Glock holds 3 more rounds i think though but i like the M&P's Quality feel and the recoil just feels different in a good way on the M&P.

My Glock 23 is the 2nd gen though, so im sure the current 4th gen feels different.

 

[seed]

I have the G23 (gen 3) and an M&P 40c (just got it). I have yet to do a side by side shooting comparison, but I can say that I like both, blah, blah, blah. The M&P I have is closer to the G27 in size and holds 10+1. The full size M&P is not my personal cup of tea, compared to the full size and compact Glocks (i.e. the 23), but I do like the size of the compact M&P. Regardless, if I were in your shoes, I would definitely keep the Glock and then consider adding an M&P of your liking when you are ready...if you are like me, I like a little variety when I go on a range trip.

 

[leadcounsel]

I shot the M&P a few years back and thought the trigger was squishy. I honestly have very little time with the M&P and cannot attest to much experience.

However, I have a ton of trigger time on various Glocks. Ugly and soulless. Yep. Awkward grip to some. Sure. Tupperware. Uh-huh. Dang reliable and rugged and durable. Absolutely. Glocks have become an exension of my hand and I have NEVER, EVER, NEVER had any fail in my hands, and have only once in my life seen one fail (due likely to the shooter limpwristing). I'll take the Glock when it counts thank you.

BTW - beauty is in the eye of the beholder and in my view, I find beauty in function and therefore think the Glock is beautiful as a reliable workhorse that doesn't fail. It's the unlikeable quarterback that you can count on to win the game in the clutch; the runt of the litter that is the best; the plain looking car with the monster engine under the hood...

 

[REAPER4206969]

I have an M&P9 and a Glock 23. I strongly prefer the 23.

If I could only own one firearm, it would be my GEN3 23. No BS.

 

[Don Glock]

the m&p 40cals recoil less than glock 40's (even the gen4's). however, i prefer the trigger pull and grip on glocks. plus, being able to easily get parts and work on it myself is always a plus


either one is good to go, it simply comes down to personal preference.

 

[JDGray]

Two excellent platforms, but I don't like the M&Ps trigger compared to the Glocks. Smith also has to many safety options for me, but that may be a plus for you. Shoot your buddies, let us know what you think.

 

[jaysouth]

The Smith has a traditionally rifled barrel with makes it safe for lead reloads.

Personal thing, I have both Smiths and glocks. On any particular day I swing one way then the other.

My favorite of both is the M&P .45c. But the compact Glocks, 19 and 23 are hard to beat.

 

[bhk]

I have owned both a 23 and a 40c, and now just have the 40c. Both are great guns. I prefer the trigger of the 40c. The Glock trigger actually hurt my finger after a few rounds. The 40c points much more naturally for me, and I find it shoots better for me.

I shoot a number of handgun formats on a weekly basis, from 1911s to revolvers. I always found it took me a magazine or so shooting the Glock to get 'on' when switching from another format. Not so with the SW, it is good to go from the first shot. Seems so natural.

 

[19-3Ben]

I normally don't do the whole grammar-nazi thing, but this was too funny:

Shoot your buddies, let us know what you think.

I believe (hope?) that was supposed to be "buddy's."

I had a G23 for a while. Couldn't get used to the grip. Felt kind of blocky. I did love the size of it. It was just a hair shorter than my M&P9. It was just exactly big enough to be a full sized gun, without becoming a "big gun" if that makes any sense whatsoever.

I comparison though, I've had my M&P9 for 4 years already, and I love that thing. It fits my hand like it was made for me.
If I pick a spot in the room (like a light switch), close my eyes and try to point the gun at it, when I open my eyes, the sights are always lined up, directly on target.

Accuracy and reliability is a wash as far as I'm concerned.
Shooting the G23 was the least impressive part of the gun (for me). Recoil was harsher than many comparably sized .40s that I've fired, and the funky grip was tough to get used to. I sold off the G23. But that's just me. Everyone's hand is different. They are both great guns. The only way to really tell is to shoot them both.

 

[Manco]

They're very similar guns in many respects, but I prefer the feel of the M&P both in the hand and when shooting. Glocks have some advantages, too, such as better corrosion resistance and aftermarket support, but I'm more comfortable overall with the M&P.

 

[SwampMouse]

The Smith has a traditionally rifled barrel with makes it safe for lead reloads.

Personal thing, I have both Smiths and glocks. On any particular day I swing one way then the other.

My favorite of both is the M&P .45c. But the compact Glocks, 19 and 23 are hard to beat.

Huh?????

 

[MidwestRookie]

it took me 50 rounds to become a huge fan of the m&p40...now that I think about it, that same day I shot another guys glock 23 rough texture or whatever it's officially called and the m&p was infinitely more fun to shoot. that doesn't mean the glock wasn't a shooter, I couldn't even really tell where I was hitting he had his target looking like it was shot 50 times by a shotgun..just feel alone is what I'm going on.

+1 for the M&P40

 

[Kingofthehill]

Huh?????

I think by what he is saying "Safe for reloads" he is talking about the ability to use LEAD bullets in the standard Rifling opposed to the Glock where you have to get a different barrel in order to shoot Lead ammo.

 

[seed]

It should be noted that right now, both companies are good in the CS department. In the past, I had my issues with Glock CS, but when I dealt with them recently they were very good. I have yet to test S&W, but from what I have read they treat you very well.

 

[Don Glock]

I've dealt with both glock and s&w cust serv on warranty issues recently. S&w wins hands down.

 

[REAPER4206969]

I've had great experiences with both, but S&W goes way above and beyond.

When I sent my M&P9 back for minor issues, they installed night sights free for my inconvenience!

 

[LiveLife]

I have both Gen3 Glock 22 and M&P40.

Ergonomics - hands down M&P, especially your first grip "ooooaaaahhhh, that's nice fit" and 3 insert sizes for custom hand fit. I can reach everything (mag release, slide release) on the M&P without having to adjust my grip. Mag release on M&P is way more positive than Glock, which I have to twist in my hand to push down for positive release. For weak-hand shooting, having ambi-slide release is a bonus for me.

Recoil - M&P will provide "softer" recoil than my Gen3 Glock 22. I have shot several hundred thousand rounds out of Glocks and feels very comfortable with the recoil, but M&P's captured flat recoil spring set with full-length guide rod does a great job. I think it provides more straight back recoil.

Trigger - I do like the 4.5 lb factory Glock trigger over the M&P factory trigger, which is heavier. The Glock striker is very consistent pull after pull in producing tight shot groups and fast double-taps for matches. BUT, change out the M&P trigger with APEX or do a trigger job and you'll have a light 4 lb trigger that is cleaner/smoother than Glock.

Magazine - Hands down M&P - always drops free no matter what your pistol tilt angle is.

Sights - Yeah, Glock still puts plastic sights on Glocks ... but they work for me.

Barrel rifling - Conventional land/groove rifling of M&P allows carefree shooting of lead reloads. I use Lone Wolf barrels in Glocks to shoot lead reloads.